• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    We paid out 20 billion dollars to Argentina, fucked over a bunch of American soy bean farmers in MAGA country and so he’s paying them another 10 billion to not turn on him. Cool.

    • _core@sh.itjust.works
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      Framers are millionaires. Their farmland the equipment needed to run it is hugely expensive. They voted for bailouts and tax breaks the first time, and that’s what they voted for this time. When they weren’t getting what they voted for they threatened to turn on him until he gave in. They won’t learn anything from this except that they get tax breaks and bailouts from Trump.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    I think I heard some woman politician on an older podcast episode from Thom Hartmann who was talking about sitting down with conservatives in her state and why they voted for Donvict, even though they knew he would start another trade war that would harm them - they figured he would just bail them out again.

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      1 year ago

      There is a video of a farmer saying the same thing. They knew they would get bailed out.

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        1 year ago

        It’s funny how timely that episode was, because I’m catching up on older episodes and I’m pretty sure the episode was from March of this year.

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      I think their business plan, such as it is, is hire the guy to disrupt the lives of everyone, including destroying their own livelihoods, but he’ll bail them out. Everyone else can get fucked. Science and technology - destroyed. Institutional norms, democratic morality, (real) free speech, freedom of religion, the right to vote - all wiped away. But women, POC, immigrants, liberals will all be put in their “place”, which may involve a literal grave for some and imprisonment/torture for others.

      I’m sure most of it is rooted in racism when it all boils down…because none of it makes any fucking sense and racism is inherently very irrational. These people will not have their lives made better by Taco.

      • meco03211@lemmy.world
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        Farming used to be just hard work. Now with things like Monsanto trademarking crops so farmers need to buy new seed every year or john deere making it illegal to repair their tractors so you need to go directly through them, farmers are feeling the greedy pinch of enshittification. Suddenly hard work alone is not enough to just survive as a farmer. Now take a blowhard like Trump telling them how much “illegals” and other “others” are the cause of their sad existence and they just hop right on that train.

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          I mean, some of the most radicalization happened because of how farmers were getting fucked by banks, and by various combines, and so a lot of them started doing stuff like collective action.

          I think the book What’s the Matter With Kansas? even goes over some of this history. But I think as most family farms went bust, most of America went urban between 1910-1920, that kind of collective action was almost predetermined to get squashed. And the people holding out buy into a whole lotta Hollywood-style myth-making about rural life (ironically). Couple that with a lot of propaganda and racism and it spells the current situation.

          Ironically, on the enshittification front, it was progressives that I first noticed pushing the “right to repair” stuff, by the way. Same with the stuff about patenting genetics of seeds…

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            Ironically, on the enshittification front, it was progressives that I first noticed ….

            Yes, back to the face-eating leopard party. A huge logic gap as one of the many reasons we can no longer understand each other.

            • Unsatisfied with the guys not doing enough to make your life better? Burn it all down assuming you can walk through the flames unharmed.
            • Don’t like being in a bad spot? Destroy all attempts to help you, with the expectation it will hurt those people more and you’ll be ok because you are one of the “good ones”.
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      Nah they voted this fully knowing they’d both get hurt by these policies, then get a bailout that would a net positive for them.

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    A government handout? Lazy no good farmers taking my taxes. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Stop buying Starbucks. And most importantly, stop voting for gop pedophiles.

  • renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It’s okay guys, Trump has gained 17 TRILLION from tariffs. Biden? 1 Trillion, Trump, 17 trillion in 8 months! Imagine that!

    /dripping with orange sarcasm

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      Don’t worry 90% of it will go to Cargill, ADM, Tyson, Smithfield, John Deere, and Bayer/Monsanto.

      All the remaining small farms will fight over the scraps and then get bought out by one of the first four, depending on what they farm…or be entirely under the thumb of the other two.

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          I’m guessing most farmers will be allowed to stay in their homes and manage their fields while the big ag companies take all their yield and pay out a meager salary.

          They’ll call it “franchise farming” or something catchy, but it’s really gonna be Indentured Servants 2.0.

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            JD Vance has investments in companies that buy out farms from farmers. He says the farms will continue to be run by experts (ie the farmers he bought the farms from)

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            This is how farming has mostly worked in this country since it was founded. A decent amount of small and even large family farm operations don’t even own the land they farm because of how expensive land is in general. Farmland really started to get expensive 20 years ago and ever since then it’s been hard to purchase land at all for any farm that is bigger than 100 acres. My father was able to still purchase land in the 90s and early 2000s before prices really went bananas, so to grow his operation, he had to lease if he wanted to farm more land.