• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    So… has the fire been officially deemed arson? Last I saw they were still investigating the cause. The one calling it arson in the article is a congressman, not the fire department.

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    1 year ago

    it doesn’t matter what side “did it” (dumb framing) because this is the exact kind of response i can directly support. as a leftist, i am using this opportunity to say your outrage at those in power is justified regardless of your placement on the political spectrum. they are working for none of us while oppressing all of us. if you are contributing labor you are being exploited by an oligarchy. you are being killed for profit and imperialism.

    this is the anger of the people. this is what happens when our voices are rejected and painted as unreasonable. you cannot cage an animal and expect no thrashing.

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        1 year ago

        i know, but we need to capture the anger of the people that is motivating these rwnjs. because it is us vs them, but these folks are being lied to about who “them” is. this could be an opportunity to correct that, to point at this and say “the reasoning is flawed, the conclusion is flawed, but the anger was already there because there was something real to be angry about.” they are having their anger exploited. they feel rage, but they’re being told it’s immigrants! where’s the rage come from? the reality that they are being fucked over by the system.

        we can use this to speak to them.

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          I think first we’ll need to calm the anger before anyone can listen, let alone think through the evidence. Otherwise when anything pops off, we’re going to end up with the wrong people in positions of power.

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            1 year ago

            you are not going to calm anything down. the anger is righteous. it is merely misdirected and manipulated by fascists. we can’t calm the anger but we can make it work for the people instead.

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              1 year ago

              What I’m saying is people don’t think straight when they’re angry. Yes the anger is righteous, but if you haven’t noticed, they’re blaming outside entities, not their own.

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                1 year ago

                what do you think i mean when i say to use their anger? i am maintaining we redirect the outrage. its like you ignored everything i said about having it work for us as opposed to against us.

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                  I am saying people are blinded by anger and dig in if you try to change their minds. They have to calm enough to read and critically evaluate information properly. They even reject their own Western MSM to dig in.

                  A quick flame or slow burn? Are you putting food on the grill while flames shoot out or when the coal looks lifeless but is red-hot inside?

                  No I’m not ignoring anything. Are you missing anything?

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    1 year ago

    Wait, this isn’t like when the Nazis opened the Ark at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark? Oh well.

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    1 year ago

    weird how he has been ranting non stop about “radical leftist” judges and their huge conspiracy, and they need to purge them… and then some supporter goes and attacks a judge.
    ….
    kinda exactly like stochastic terrorism and not too hard to prove in court

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      What I don’t understand is, why would we need to wait for someone’s house to be set on fire to make it stick in court? The intent and actions of the stochastic terrorist are still the same.

      Our legal system is pretty stupid that way.

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        in past cases i’ve only heard of it being pursued in civil courts after the fact… feels like there’s something different when talking about judges but he always qualifies his rhetoric…
        like “and there’s only one thing left to do, with this giant conspiracy using the law to manipulate the government! (pause) pursue legal action within the guidelines of the law, of course!”.
        it seems a lot like he’s implying legal action is pointless and it’s time to do illegal things….
        also looking at the director of the fbi and attorney general doesn’t give me hope they’ll pursue this one….

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          There is no law. If you want justice, it won’t be via legal means, those are too badly corrupted to be relied on.

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      It’s what they want to have happen. They just need it to be blameable on anyone other than violent psychopaths.

      Somehow they still think “influencing” the message means “controlling” the message.

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    forced to jump from the first floor to escape the blaze. He is understood to have suffered multiple broken bones

    Am I missing something here?