Thank fuck they’re cracking down on this rather than the water companies knowingly spilling raw sewage into our waterways.
This… this is the “world news” today?.. Just wasting our time… intentionally im sure.
For the last bit of a single coffee? That’s a fully organic compound.
You’d probably get the same fine for emptying a drum of used motor oil into it.
They said she should have poured the coffee into a bin instead?! I think the garbage men disagree, they dont like liquids in the trash
Can confirm, binmen hate coffee bin juice
This is such bullshit
Pouring something with milk into a bin is going to be far more rancid than what she did
The “enforcement officers” seem typical of the type of dense cunt to take that sort of job when I lived in England. Sadly, I have no doubt that they have a manager pushing them to do stupid things like this because of numbers.
I bet they were too afraid to do anything about the chav throwing a cigarette butt on the ground though
I agree pouring coffee into a bin was bad advice, but pouring coffee into the gutters is also wrong. She should have taken it with her and poured it down a sink or toilet.
There are two drainage systems under the roads. One is the clean surface water drainage which is designed to take rain water quickly and freely to nearby rivers and water courses - that is where she poured her waste water. The sewage system is separate and is for foul water - that is what sinks, toilets etc drain into - and should drain to sewage treatment plants to be cleaned.
The gutters on the sides of the side of streets do not connect with the sewers, so people should not be pouring contaminated water down them. It’s basically the same as just pouring coffee directly into the river or a lake.
I understand that
How is coffee is going to “contaminate” the run-off from the roads that’s full of hydrocarbons, rubber from tyres and everything else?
I wonder if those officers knew it was illegal before they took up the job?
I hope these officers get fines if they throw away that last bit of coffee before going on patrol.
It shouldn’t be illegal. It’s a responsible disposal of an organic liquid.
It’s a bit of a grey area.
Coffee is full of lipids, which build up in the sewer just like pouring oil down the drain. Coffee shops need a grease trap for that reason. (Google says UK does this, I know it’s legislation here in Aus, we mostly copy your homework anyway)
One small bit of a cup isn’t going to break anything, but infrastructure planning and legislation has to assume that a percentage of people will do it, some of them all the time.
I don’t think she should have been fined and I do think that 3 men ganging up on a small woman to berate her about a coffee is bonkers.
There’s certainly bigger fish to fry.
Well fryer oil is certainly going to gum up that drain.
Whilst they are technically correct this is overzealous use of the law and by three of them, it looks like a police force with too many officers looking for easy targets.
They can’t turn up to hate crimes so gang let’s go looking for minuscule crimes that people can be tripped up on. I wouldn’t even cause it civil disobedience as it’s not a crime that’s even educated on.
They might be right and even after review the service can say they are technically right however this is not a good look and erodes trust in authority.
They were council enforcement rather than police. I suspect if she appealed she would have been let off, but some folk think then they’ll have to pay the full amount because they missed the early payment discount window, which I don’t think is the case.
Also, what’s the difference between this and pouring coffee in the kitchen sink at home? Those enforcement officers were just chancing it.
Enforcement action is only taken when
necessarythe small-dick bully boys find someone they feel safe intimidatingFTFY
Apart from the stupidity of the fine itself, why is it 150 but only 100 if you can pay it in 14 days? Thats insane. “You cant afford to pay this fine immediately so pay more”???
It’s the same with speeding fines and parking tickets, and the white collar criminals that call themselves car park management companies. Many folk just pay rather than appeal, thinking that the time it takes to appeal will mean they end up paying full price, but I’m pretty sure the clock is paused during the appeal process.
I’ve contested many a fine, I fucking hate those parking sharks. The clock is indeed stopped until a decision is made.
Then it’s usually back to the original terms of payment stated on the OG fine.
I’ve even contested friends fines as well, I’d rather spend the 30 minutes appealing than let any of those companies get more revenue.
This is in the UK at least…
I got a speeding ticket in France and to contest it you have to pay the full fine (€90) and if you were successful with the appeal then you’d get that money refunded.
Makes people less inclined to fight or ignore it when there’s a time limit like that.
Fines are for the poor.
Yeah thats my point along with my never ending horror of the capitalist dystopia we live in
to deposit or dispose of waste in a way likely to pollute land or water
Its not “likely” at all tho, because the drain leads to a water treatment plant that constantly deals with literal feces…
That is incorrect - there are 2 water drainage systems in the UK. Surface water / rain goes into the surface system and that flows freely into the water table untreated (rivers, lakes etc). It is not designed for dirty water.
The sewage system is totally separate - that is for contaminated water (toilets, sinks) and that goes to sewage treatment plants. It should be treated before it is released into the freshwater system.
So yes, it IS polluting the fresh water by putting things into the rain drainage system.
Yeah i have already learned from other comments that the UK is uncivilized but thanks for the clarification.
I’m not sure if it’s an admirable trait to double down on your ignorance, but I’m kind of impressed by your willingness to do it in front of everyone.
They are supposed to, except that the water companies just chuck half of into rivers, untreated, to protect their profit margins, and until very recently got away with it scot free.
Is this a UK specific problem? In most countries water treatment are municipal services paid for by either taxes or levies.
It’s privatised. It’s paid for by taxes, but most local authorities put it out to tender and private companies bid for the contract. So, ultimately, some public money ends up in the pockets of shareholders.
That’s the most wicked shit.
It’s the UK. It’s a big scandal at the moment that most of the drains lead to rivers, lakes and the sea with only a small fraction of sewage actually being processed before being released from the processing plant. The fines for not processing the sewage were smaller than the costs of building and running treatment plants, so the water companies have just been paying the fines and giving all the money they were paid to build the treatment plants to shareholders as dividends. As no one’s broken any laws they haven’t already nominally been punished for, there aren’t any realistic and politically tenable solutions unless billions of pounds can become magically available.
Well thats fucking outrageous. That means the UK is constantly flooding the ocean with tire rubber, oil and gasoline, dropped trash, fecal matter from animals, etc
If you’re worried about animal fecal matter making it into the waterways, I have bad news about fish
Those arent filled up with antibiotics, but you are right.
“I don’t drink water, fish fuck in it.” - I forget who said this
Fish don’t actually fuck though.
Even worse, they spew it all into the water (in specific areas where they “spawn”). In this case “fuck” was used as a procreation term rather than the literal penetration.
Lol, this is not anything new or crazy - All of NA infrastructure is built the same way. I’d be surprised if there were many places in the world that weren’t built this way.
Now we know where the Indians learned it from.
We should nationalise them and don’t give them a penny. We can then fix this mess and then invest in our future.
Even if nationalised, our water infrastructure still needs hundreds of billions of pounds investing in it to bring it up to an acceptable standard, and the government doesn’t have the money and has other priorities to spend it on if they magically got a surprise pile of cash. The only financially viable way to fix the problem in a hurry would be to seize past dividends from water company shareholders to cover the cost of doing the things the water companies were supposed to be doing (which would conveniently tank the share prices and make nationalising the water much cheaper), but lots of pensions are propped up mostly by water shares, so doing that would plunge lots of pensioners into poverty, which isn’t politically viable as the government’s already in enough trouble for perceived being mean to pensioners, and they can’t afford to support more impoverished pensioners.
I don’t know the situation in the UK but some countries have separate drains depending on if it’s waste water or just a regular rain water drainage. Rain water drainages are often not treated in any way (because why, it’s rainwater anyway) but waste water is processed in treatment plants.
It’s not just rainwater once it’s made it’s way from the streets and into the gutter though… i would hope there’s some sort of treatment
There is not. Obviously I can’t speak for every city in the world but any I’m familiar with either flow back to natural water sources, or to storm ponds to slowly evaporate/become ground water
Is coffee even considered waste?
Yes, it is contaminated water and should not be poured into the surface drainage system. It doesn’t connect to the sewers, it is separate and drains freely into rivers, lakes etc.
Folgers should be.
HEYOOOO
This is payback for the citizens arrest of Anglian Water CEO
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This wasn’t police, it was council enforcement officers. People too stupid to get into the police.
Lol
Not the Onion…
