• Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    They’ll be gone in 10-15 years? The current popular version anyway. A fungi is destroying them.

    It happened before back in the fifties with the last version. Except there’s nothing really close this time. The other types of bananas aren’t close at all

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 year ago

      ooh so that’s what that is

      i heard an old man mysteriously whisper “enjoy your bananas while they still exist, young person” to me at the supermarket a while ago and i didn’t know what they were talking about but they sounded very serious so i didn’t doubt them.

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        1 year ago

        Clones fall behind the arms race that nature is. Seedless bananas so far seem to last decades

    • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      That old version “Gros Michel” is what artificial banana flavour is based on. Bananas used to taste like that. The newer “Cavendish” variety is firmer and lasts longer, but doesn’t have the same flavour. It seems like both are being wiped out by disease though, yay monoculture.

      Cavendish seem to be especially vulnerable because they’re all clones. They don’t produce viable seeds, so they’re grafted to new plants.

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          1 year ago

          Maybe, but they are right (AI or fleshbag). I love artificial banana flavour way more then the current banana and have dived deep into the madness that is the banana industry. We are eating lies when we could have been eating Gros Michels if only greed did not prevail.

          • shneancy@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            god no do not bring back Gros Michels, artificial banana flavour is bleh

            i suppose soon we’ll have to compromise and start liking (or not) a new banana flavour though, if that banana disease gets to the current version

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              1 year ago

              Agreed. I accidentally bought tropical antacids and like 50% of them are banana flavor. I’d rather just have indigestion

              • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                1 year ago

                Hate to tell ya but I had the same inverted experience. “How come this gross artificial banana tastes nothing like bananas?! Ohhhh…”.

                It does kinda drive me nuts though, not knowing what the real deal tastes like. Can only imagine, for you!

                • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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                  1 year ago

                  My introduction to banana flavor was the penicillin liquid medicine as a kid, I got in a bit of trouble drinking the whole bottle at night, and more trouble by doing it to every bottle I could find later (my siblings illness was a small price to pay). I have been chasing that high of flavor ever since. My parents tried to give me “real” bananas after but they are but a pale imitation that only dulls the edge of my craving.

        • BanMe@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Well. Artificial flavoring is typically identifying 1 or 2 compounds that occur within a fruit, whereas the fruit has dozens of these compounds. Imagine what artificial apple flavoring is to green apples - that’s what Runts is to the Gros banana.

          You can still get the Gros in some places but it’s not grown at scale, has to be isolated.

      • kameecoding@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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        There is already a gene modified cavendish that is resistant to the fungi, but it’s not legal in the EU so it’s not being used yet

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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        Cavendish seem to be especially vulnerable because they’re all clones. They don’t produce viable seeds, so they’re grafted to new plants.

        What the hell? Who ever thought that would last?

      • Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        Might’ve gone on a search bout baanas last night. I now prefer goldenfinger, a type AA cultivar I have never seen in my entire life.

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    1 year ago

    I’ve got 2 bad things

    1. The included wrapper isn’t very rigid and can split and mash around. I’ve had several bananas turn to paste if they are forgotten about in a backpack or work their way to the bottom and end up crushed by other items.

    2. Fruit flies.

  • bizarroland@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    We are one minor mutation of a common banana disease away from having to get an entirely new kind of banana, and frankly we are not prepared for that.

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      1 year ago

      bananas are mid anyway, like red apples. nothing of value lost

      they dont even have a lot of potassium, you’d have to eat like 70 bananas to get rdv of potassium.

      you want rdv potassium (or most any other vitamin) you need to eat fucking vegetables

      • CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        You have to eat approximately 10 bananas for rdv of potassium.

        rdv for potassium is 4500mg. A banana contains approximately 420-550mg of potassium.

        While 70 bananas is probably not going to kill you, ld50 for potassium is 2500mg/kg, that much potassium can exacerbate some heart problems.

  • Triumph@fedia.io
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    1 year ago

    The Cavendish banana is a monoculture that your grandkids will never know, the same way that you’ve (very probably) never had a Gros Michel.

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      1 year ago

      Huh. I still see Gros Michel (or a relatively similar breed) at markets from time to time where I live (although I’m in the Middle East)

      Edit: I’ve also seen other variants before. I think the Cavendish is the blandest of them all. My favourite type of banana is a bit smaller with a very fragrant smell that’s also sweeter. Not sure what it’s called though

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        There are a handful of places still growing Gros Michel on a very small scale, hence the “very probably” modifier.

  • \[DUMBASS]/@aussie.zone
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    1 year ago

    One bad thing is that you can’t have them near other fruit because they will make all the other fruit ripen way faster than it should, that’s why your fruit bowls suck and you have to replace your non banana fruit often.

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    Idk if yhis is true, but here in the south it’s said that too much sugar makes bananans decay during transportation. The best ones never make it out of my country.

  • justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    I strongly dislike their taste and am allergic to them, but yeah that are individual problems. Also… why is high kalium so important?

  • kameecoding@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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    One bad thing: it’s all just clones so now it’s extremely vulnerable to one kind of fungus, much like the gros michel banana it faces near extinction

    • reddit_sux@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Not here around the world, maybe in your banana republic.

      We have atleast 10 varities in our country.

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        It’s not lost forever. They have seeds in the global seed vault, and there’s a few small growers still producing them.

        You can actually buy a box of them still. They’re expensive as all hell, but you can do it.

        Get a few friends together and put some money into a pot, then buy a box and have a banana party.

          • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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            1 year ago

            They do. Ever have “banana flavor” stuff that doesn’t seem to taste anything like a banana?

            … well, it does, it just doesn’t taste like a Cavendish banana. It most likely resembles the tates of the gros michel.

      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        My local Acme carried red bananas for a while. They are fucking delicious, taste more like a banana custard than a regular yellow banana. They’re also a bit smaller so less of a commitment to carbo-loading when you peel one. I wouldn’t mind at all if they became the new standard banana, even if it would kind of ruin Mario Kart.

          • Chakravanti@monero.town
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            1 year ago

            Isn’t that exactly the reason that the banana ended your attempt? You could bent your move but straight is some kind of paradigmic ideology that you _fear_to save your own life?

            Edit: I mean, I wish I could be sarcastic about that expression but do mind that I do recognize that you, personally, aren’t the target of my reply. I mean to simply validate the significance of the sarcasm you so well express!

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    I can name one bad thing. It was used as example of intelligent design by Kirk Cameron…