Are poor people really gorging themselves on fine condiments? Of course not. Ridiculous.
It also bothers me that there’s the implication that poor people don’t deserve any luxuries. As if being poor is a moral failing, so you should suffer.
Of course, what’s really absurd is the trillions of dollars the US spends on military bullshit every year, not the fact that some unemployed worker might be able to buy top-shelf mustard.
Yes, we are. I have nothing to put them on though, I’m just pouring Poupon straight down the throat hole.
You don’t fill up a kiddie pool and bask in it?
Marinading yourself is not a useful step towards eating the rich.
This made me howl like that one-too-loud audience member from a canned laughter cassette tape.
Maybe? An ex from NC introduced me to putting Sweet Hot Mustard on summer sausage + cheese + Ritz cracker, and damn. It added like, 3 points in tastiness (on a 10 point scale).
Its true, and I have a source to prove it.
I like generic yellow mustard. What the fuck is “Sunshine” complaining about?
They’re complaining about “welfare queens”, a common anti-poor trope. I doubt they even care about mustard.
Damn. At least Reagan was lying about poor people getting Cadillacs. Now it’s down to just fancy mustard?
“poor people shouldn’t be able to afford food because I’m irresponsible with my money”
… That’s what this sounds like.
If you’re not “poor enough” to need snap, and you can’t afford to buy whatever food you want, within reason, then either, you need snap and you’re in denial, or you need to learn money management.
Snap recipients are forced to spend the money on food, since that’s the only place that money can be spent AFAIK… So they’re forced to be responsible with their food money. They can’t use the funds to get drunk at the pub and stumble down the street picking fights and ending up in the drunk tank.
If you’re not “poor enough” to need snap, and you can’t afford to buy whatever food you want, within reason, then either, you need snap and you’re in denial, or you need to learn money management.
There are breakpoints where earning slightly more money can cost you more benefits than you gained in pay. I could also totally see someone being in that range where they’re only a little out of range for SNAP and as such have to eat on their own income while someone earning a bit less gets supplemented to a higher total budget than they have.
Snap recipients are forced to spend the money on food, since that’s the only place that money can be spent AFAIK…
I mean without doing shady shit, yeah. But then in lots of places there are known and routinely practiced ways to launder SNAP into cash. One that was popular here for a time a while back was a convenience store that would buy cases of canned soda of specific kinds from anyone who came in with them for less than wholesale price. People on SNAP who wanted to launder it into cash would go somewhere like Wal-Mart, buy cases, go to this store and resell them at a loss to get cash while the store stocks shelves at a discount.
who is eating that much mustard to be unable to afford it
Whole discussion is about " I can only afford 1/3 price generic mustard, but SNAP recipients are spoiled"
SNAP funds can also be used to buy cheap mustard to stetch limited SNAP budget.
Let them eat French’s™
Fuck that! I’m a stone ground and horseradish convert. But French’s does make some damn good basic yellow mustard.
I love the idiocy of the view that the poorest among us are eating like kings for free while we all suffer and toil for peanuts. I mean, how dumb do you have to be? I’ve got a steal of a deal on some property on mars you may be interested in.
I have MAGA family. The first thing they always mention about SNAP is how “welfare queens” are gaming the system, even though they were all on food stamps at one point. It’s purely all about racism and punching down. They don’t like the idea of black and brown people eating on “their” taxdollars. However, when my brother was on food stamps, it was out of “necessity” because he relied on SNAP to feed his step children.
Same, overheard one day they are paying immigrants $3000 a month to not work. Like what in the actual fuck is wrong with these people? That doesn’t hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. But there’s no reasoning with people who lack any form of it.
It’s definitely infuriating. Anything is “true” in their land of make believe…
white people make up the largest block of snap recipients.
rural white people are represented very large chunk inside that group - I will never understand how trump can continually hurt his own voters (see: closing down hospitals in rural america, increasing the cost of healthcare in rural america etc.,) and still get their support and am left to conclude they’re deranged cultists, and dumb ones at that.
I’m open to counter examples but at this point… I know one republican, he’s basically an independent now because he’s disgusted by a draft dodging treason buffoon like most sane people should be. The ones holding trump up at this point are either entirely in on the hate (stephen miller, bannon, etc.,) or completely deranged cultists.
It’s a cult. My parents became super religious out of nowhere in 2016 began worshiping Trump like he’s a demigod. I regrettedly visited them with a few months ago and now they’re prepping for civil war with “people from the cities”. When mental illness reaches this point of criticality, there’s no point of return. They simply live in a different reality. Voting republican is an existential crisis to them within their Qanon-based media bubble.
I’m thankful I don’t have to have these discussions with my dad who passed in 2012; I have a bad feeling he’d be all maga.
that’s a really tough experience; best luck with the future as the shitshow progresses; it’s so fucked up that these want to be patriots are destroying this country.
I’m sorry that you lost your father so long ago :/ However, you do make a solid point. Watching your parents slowly lose their minds might be ultimately more painful in the long run. My parents were always abusive white trash, but now I don’t even recognize them anymore. I guess decades of alcoholism and hatred will do that do to a person…
That’s how my dad was. He was the one only one who actually needed food stamps; everybody else was cheating the system. As far as I could tell, it wasn’t about race because he’d talk shit about other white people who used food stamps, too.
Well at least your dad hated everyone equally ;)
If that’s all you can afford, you might need snap tbh
It’s so weird seeing that sunshine account when our local sunshine lemming is the opposite.
What do you mean this is obviously her they have the same name that makes them the same person.
We have a Sunshine here?
At Lemmy.ca
Oh yeah, now that I think about it I do recognize that name!
This is just a totally brain dead take. Maybe the SNAP recipient likes brown mustard and prioritizes it. And you don’t care that much so you don’t prioritize it. If it mattered to you, you would budget to get fancy mustard.
If you really do feel you can’t afford fancy mustard, you shouldn’t be mad at the person who earns food assistance and then uses it to buy fancy mustard, you should be mad that you aren’t making enough to afford fancy mustard.
This is just a totally brain dead take.
Well yeah, they’re complaining about people who receive SNAP benefits, so that’s a given.
According to Google, most SNAP recipients who can work, DO work.
It’s also like $4 to get a bottle of Gray Poupon, absolutely ridiculous to be trying to whip people into a frenzy over that to begin with.
This is not the first time Republicans threw an absolute shit fit over negligibly more expensive mustard…
…while blowing hundreds or even thousands of dollars on red hats and overpriced campaign souvenirs.
Because in their minds, these people should be suffering more. Government food assistance should take the form of gruel, if it exists at all.
Edit: Oh I just realized what you were referencing lol
that is how conservatives do it, tan suit, hot dog, djoin mustard, sipping from a cup. they always trying to find some thing they can complain about, which is anything.
Theres the rub. The working class and poor have been indoctrinated to believe that they are their own enemies, and the puppet masters that orchestrated all of this class warfare are the rich to keep us busy from chopping their heads off.
The poor aren’t our enemies. They are the frogs boiling in water that the rich use to determine what they can do to everyone else.
Yeah, it’s not like SNAP users get a discount on “fancy” mustard, they just get use their government-given food money to buy whatever kind of food they want instead of the government policing how they are allowed to use their food money.
Oh the government absolutely polices how they’re allowed to use the money.
Okay, but apparently not when it comes to mustard.
I’ve encountered people like this. They absolutely loathe when someone points out that what they said was wrong
Oh yes, the classic “the poor people are secretly happy and that bothers me” argument. It’s like a cat call for stupid people. The whole point of it is to say “you’re not allowed to have anything remotely nice because I consider myself better than you.”
It’s mental illness made into a political platform.
Their position is more accurately something like “If I have to pay for you to have things, you shouldn’t be allowed to have nicer things than I can afford.”
Imagine being the kind of ghoul that thinks if people need assistance, that assistance should be the absolute bottom of the barrel lest someone who didn’t need the assistance choose to not spend the money they have the freedom to decide how to spend.
Life isn’t zero sum.
If you want fancier mustard and you’re not on food stamps, just spend one of the extra dollars you must have to cause that. It’s not gonna run out
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Life isn’t zero sum.
That is the crux of it. They believe it is. Wholeheartedly. It’s part of their core being at this point. If someone is receiving something, they must be losing something in return. It’s their tax money.
They’re incapable of making the mental connection that corporations and the rich aren’t paying anywhere near even a fair share of taxes that could entirely pay for those programs to apply to every citizen, including themselves. And the media preys on that to further pit themselves against their fellow citizens because it’s all owned by those same rich assholes.
And even if it was zero sum, they still wouldn’t grasp who’s getting the plus for their minus.
It’s not even just that, they believe that people on government assistance need to be constantly shamed and humiliated, otherwise they will never have the motivation to pull themselves out of poverty.
I had an argument with a big-L “Libertarian” acquaintance who straight up admitted that he would rather pay more in taxes to implement new stricter oversight and systems to restrict what people spend their WIC/SNAP benefits on than endure the possibility that someone might buy a bag of Doritos with said assistance. The cherry on top was him–again, a “Libertarian”–claiming it would be to ensure they are making healthy, state-approved, food choices.
I love libertarian ideas like let people do what they want, government should have minimal intervention in peoples’ lives, stuff like that. But the libertarian party is full of the worst type of people and they will never be taken seriously for any major election.
and most of them are just republicans that arnt “out loud”
Let people do what they want. Unless they’re buying junk food with food stamps!
Some junk food purchases became allowable only after the increased homeless population forced poor people to eat food that didn’t require a stove or refrigerator.
Libertarian ideas about freedom from government intervention are taken to an extreme and wrapped up in the denial of funding social supports, because pooling resources for the overall benefit of society is evil or something.
Many countries establish personal rights in a way that still allow for freedom without the libertarian selfishness aspect.
Libertarians want minimal government intervention only when it comes to services that THEY don’t need. Libertarians have no philosophical restrictions on military spending that protects THEIR assets from foreign invaders.
Lol we (the US) haven’t had “foreign invaders” since the War of 1812.
(the US) haven’t had “foreign invaders” since the War of 1812.
False. Pearl Harbor was a foreign invasion. So are covert assassinations by foreign operatives.
The thing that annoys me the most is that some countries having a percentage of people unemployed is literally a feature not a bug
Not all countries. Just the capitalist ones.
that seems like the opposite of libeterianism, have the state decide what you can and cannot eat.
that seems like the opposite of libeterianism, have the state decide what you can and cannot eat.
All libertarians are frauds.
Grey Poupon is not fancy mustard. You can buy that shit in any grocery store, it was developed by food scientists and is mass produced in giant semi-automated factories. It’s also not particularly expensive. If you can only afford yellow mustard but not Grey Poupon you shouldn’t be buying any mustard because your budget is way too tight to be paying for condiments you can get free in a fast food restaurant.
The only reason people think it’s fancy is because of some dumb commercials made in the 80s.
Those weren’t form the '90s? Am I so old that I’m now conflating these decades?
Yes, and I’m sorry. I’m also right there with you.
Also, don’t forget to take your medication this evening.
Joke’s on you, my wife is the one with fourteen prescriptions
They continued into the '90s, but they started in the '80s. The whole two rich people riching at each other is a very '80s esthetic.
They were referenced in Wayne’s World in 1992 and I’m guessing that they were at least a couple of years old by then.
Yup, you’re right. I was actually pulling up to people in traffic and asking them this in '92. Because I thought it was hilarious.
It still is, but it used to be, too
They existed in the 90s too. They really milked that shit
Also some ad campaigns just lasted forever hell some just updated the commercials on occasion. You can now hear the Empire Carpet jingle.
I’m pretty sure they revived the ad campaign in the 90s
Thanks a lot
Then came Mentos…
Excuse me, those commercials from the 80s are a very important piece of early millennial culture.
That’s what she said
Same reason people think “Corinthian leather” is fancy – when there’s actually no such thing as Corinthian leather.
Chrysler Cordoba
It’s okay, I didn’t think Sunshine made any sense to begin with.
She never does.
One of the best things you can do to fix a tight budget is to stop buying fast food.
That is some perspective.
It reminds me of another conversation starter about wealth inequality. Where do poor people buy their bed sheets? The answers are usually Walmart or Salvation Army. Where do middle class people buy sheets? Nordstroms or some other department store. Where do rich people buy sheets? They don’t. They have people for that.
The rich use people for bed sheets?
Yes. They’re called sex workers and they’re lovely. Can recommend.
Just their skin.
Some of the more eccentric types will collect the genitals too
But of course it’s fancy. It’s French!
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