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So just some guy saying stuff? This isn’t news. It’s capitalist propaganda.
Exactly this: https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/ep-228-billionaires-as-insta-experts-how-our-media-conflates-extreme-wealth-with-expertise
Let it lead, we had enough with their stupid.
I guess they will vote to make change lol.A repeat of the French Revolution is the real reason behind the bunkers of the ultra wealthy.
I hope they enjoy staying in that bunker forever instead of the surface world
Somewhere, somehow, those bunkers will need air intakes. Some potatoes to plug tubes, or mustard gas packets down the hatches … the problem is, bunkers make excellent prisons and/or tombs.
The ultra wealthy also don’t do shit in their own and will be expecting at least a small team of other people to cater to them while they weather the storm. There is no future where the ultra wealthy get to keep all the things they have collected.
Weird jump after defending a multi billionaire govenor that won’t defend his citizens and just wants to make sound bites…
Fair, but in this case, they’re not wrong.
wasnt there are article about zuckerberg/bezos compound they dont know what to do with the HUMAN waste they produced,a nd they wanted to dumped in some random area to pollute. since you dont pay for public services.
There’s a whole rich people Island neighborhood (I didn’t think they were bunkers) that wanted to pipe their waste back to the mainland because they didn’t think anything through when building it
I like shitting on billionaires as much as the next person, but presumably they didn’t design any of this themselves. Most likely story is they just don’t want to pay their fair share as usual.
They didn’t want it near them and assumed they’d be able to pay their way to dumping it on the poors. Don’t give them an out.
A healthy and well designed septic system will handle a free humans for decades if you treat it right.
That shouldn’t be the hard part.
I bet those
servant’s quartersaccomodations for staff are real nice so that they stay loyal.They will, in all likelihood, involve counter measures like explosive collars.
What part of the device will do the killing?
Would installing such devices make the news?
What if an enemy did a mass triggering of switches?
Water is one of the most destructive things on the planet. Find where water is pumped out, plug it, flood it (or just let them sit in their own filth unable to flush a toilet)
My toilet needs to flush somehow
Press the buttons on the top.
They almost always need some access to the outside, for air or water. Regardless, it’s only so strong. Even if it’s self-sustaining, a few guys with pickaxes could get through whatever wall they have in probably a few months, at most. Assuming everything doesn’t collapse, heavy machinery or explosives would make quick work of them. A bunker is only useful if there’s nothing on the outside actively trying to open it up.
we can seal them in with concrete.
I’m more of a proponent on getting these criminals out of their bunkers, giving them a trial, then permanently sealing the bunkers after removing luxuries.
And unless there is something I dont know about the construction of these bunkers, they are never impossible to break into.
You just gotta know where they are, and many of them are doing it right out in the open. Crews of construction workers, locals, they know where to find the bunkers.
We could seal them in and let them rot inside? I personally feel like indefinite imprisonment in a vault of their creation could be plenty punishment. Could also cut electricity. Maybe they desire to come out on their own, we wouldnt need to break in.
Either is fine for me if these guys get what they wrought
See that’s the thing with me.
To me, justice isn’t served until the institutions they tried to destroy are the ones used to punish them. It’s like the penultimate form of justice.
Yes. It’s for show. The end result is the same. But to the people, we can witness it, and remind ourselves that these institutions of justice and government are meant to serve the many, and not the few.
But part of me also really just wants to use thermite to cut through a big steel bunker door
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Giant blender, everyone gets a sip. Or minimum wage servitor.
Fixing all the damage they caused. Since they can’t do that, it’s the penultimate.
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More eggs to break. The people are getting hungry
Truthfully if it gets to the point the mega wealthy are hiding in bunkers the people will have access to military arsenals.
The US has spent a lot of money researching and purchasing munitions designed to bust underground bunkers
I propose this plan: billionaire brawl.
A reality TV show akin to the gladiator arenas of old.
They don’t respect the institutions of law and have danced around them/dismantled them, so they do not deserve it.
Instead, they turned our public institutions into theater. That is what they deserve.
For our entertainment, a new billionaire brawl occurs every day. There are thousands of them so we could have years of entertainment. They fight to the death with all sorts of strange instruments and situations.
I should mention, in Billionaire Brawl, the strange Instruments they use to survive? Yes you guessed it, they must buy them, and they are not cheap. Each piece of equipment costs billions to buy. A sword? A billion. A shield? Another billion. Clothes? Yes, a billion. A helmet? Billion. The proceeds from Billionaire Brawl go to the workers of the industries they pillaged from, and to the environments they destroyed for their riches, and to the people they brainwashed for their riches.
The great thing about this is that it would catalogue exactly what happened here. Future generations would have a historical goldmine. Millions of people who were abused, starved, exploited, and lied to would be able to watch their billionaire brawl and feel a sense of justice.
They feast while they poison our air and waters. They live in luxury while making us beg to give 1/2 of our income to a slum. The moment AI became seemingly advanced enough, they tossed us aside like nuisances.
Billionaire Brawl. Don’t let them escape to bunkers. Pull them out. Let them fight to the death for freedom, like they’ve made us fight for generations.
Almost like an inverted Hunger Games. Nice!
Couldn’t we just plug up their vents? Or maybe fart a little bit in them?
Find the bunker and then cause a mini Chernobyl on top of it so that the radiation half life doesn’t occur until all the bunker people’s lifespans are over. We’ll trap them there forever.
An easy way to avoid anything like the French Revolution … or any kind of revolution … is to just feed people.
You can do whatever you want, abuse people, jail people, arrest people, even start a war, build concentration camps and for the most part people will go along with it all, as long as you keep them fed. You don’t even have to feed them much … just keep them fed enough to keep them from rioting and revolting.
They’re deliberately starving people right now.…
TBF some of us are already fairly revolting.
YES! Commented many times that our masters won’t let us starve. Well…
apparently Thiels compound construction was denied by the NZ government so he abandoned that country, hes probably shopping elsewhere.
Millionaire? Wow, newsweek is really slumming it these days.
10 years from now:
Homeowner CEO says …
I paid my rent AMA
what did you eat today
Ouch…
Vegetables, I bet.
The more the money, the more the genious.
No shit. This is my retirement plan.
Please collapse in an orderly fashion, form a queue or something. But don’t come up here, we’re full.
Good. We’re tired of billionaires hoarding OUR wealth, the wealth WE created, as well as the politicians paid by and for those same billionaires rigging the system on their behalf.
As any Marxist-Leninist knows though, the best time to strike the revolution is after you’ve gained the support of the public and elucidated class consciousness. We need more Leftists in political power first spreading the message of class warfare before we get there.
Because otherwise this “revolution” will be entirely selfish and unorganized and will make it harder to get anything accomplished.
Good.
The US govt shutdown is a distraction. The real story is the generals being fired by Hegseth. When they are replaced by Trump loyalists, the real civil war will begin. The goal of Project 2025 is to install a white supremacist evangelical ruling class in power. They have already published everything they want to do, all you have to do is look.
Some of those fired generals might be taking their knowledge and experience with them, FWIW.
Nothing is just a distraction. They’re all just similarly evil parts of the plan, that they have fully documented, and that people just kinda keep ignoring.
The goal of Project 2025 is to install a white supremacist evangelical ruling class in power.
Pretty sure that’s Project 1776.
Except most of the Founding Fathers were Deists. The churches of the time were mostly semi-Puritanical, and to an Evangelical, would be an absolute horror. A church that held so strictly to doctrine that they punished everyone for anything sinful, actually cared for the poor and sick (if only to bring them into the fold), and preached damnation and punishment in Hell. Stark contrast to the newer Prosperity Gospel (aka Grift), philandering, do what I want to whom I want and ask forgiveness at the end Evangelicals. The Founding Fathers were against religious control because they knew they wouldn’t be able to do much, or lose their power, as it would be seen as sinful. Now the Church has become so damn corrupt it now gives politicians a pass so long as it brings the Church more money. At this point I’m waiting on a holy war or two and a schism of power to eliminate the Church’s power again…
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For there to be any kind of real “civil war” there would need to be a very clear distinction between sides and goals alongside states declaring their intent for sovereignty, as well and would need some form of oppositional army with organization.
The USA is far, far from a real civil war. We’re talking a generation or more and that’s in the worst case timeline.
The terms people need to recognize and understand are “militarized police state” and “civil unrest.”
These conditions may lead to a civil war at some point, but so far the bickering between states that don’t want Trump to do this and that are nothing remotely close to the conditions that start a civil war.
I get it, we want something to happen. We want retribution and justice and some kind of satisfying pushback. But I don’t think it’s helpful for any of us to “Tim Pool” the situation and try to pound the war-drums so we normalize violence. The current situation can and most likely will start facing mitigation during the mid-terms if there’s no authoritarian takeover. Right now, even if that happens, you would see rioting and possibly even a coup long, LONG before you would see a civil war.
For there to be any kind of real “civil war” there would need to be a very clear distinction between sides and goals alongside states declaring
That’s how the US Civil War happened, but frequently a national Civil War does not have such clear boundaries and sides. See Syria for a very messy conflict where about the only thing defining one ‘side’ was ‘not Assad’ and very little agreement other than that.
Civil war would be the worst possible outcome to be sure, but a messy situation can just as easily feed a civil war.
happened
I’m not saying it has to be the same conditions as our “last” civil war, that might as well have taken place on another planet compared to today’s political and information landscape.
I’m saying here and now, today, we would need far different political and geographic lines for there to be anything resembling a “civil war” and really what we’re talking about is civil unrest and groups who may rise up in the coming years or decades willing to commit acts of violence. Even then that’s not a “civil war” and many nations have come back from that kind of disturbance. Even the US has had more internal revolts, coups and domestic terror groups than we have now. (Look up the original anarchist movement in the US for a wild ride through history.)
I personally take issue with people talking about “civil war” because it doesn’t help anything, if anything it removes us further from reality and reinforces the idea that “something is going to happen” by itself, that “someone is coming” to do something and create a big change. Literally, this is the same narrative the Christian right uses but theirs involves Jesus. It prevents people from investing in anything, from taking part in their community, from starting grassroots movements to change our political foundations.
Lets hope he is right.
Sure seems like the rich are doing everything they can to see what they can get away with before it pops off.
Yes please
To anyone thinking the that a revolution will end with “their” side winning:
its a revolution, everyone loses something
Unless it’s a civil war, them everyone will lose nearly everything
And even if “your” side “wins”, I guarantee you that someone will end up in charge that is a hundred times worse than what you started with. The Russian Revolution was to get rid of the tsars and make everything fair for everyone and instead they ended up with Stalin oppressing the shot out of everyone, as a semi random example
If and when this goes south for the US, everyone will regret it. There is nothing as bad as a war that puts neighbor against neighbors, and sons against their fathers.
The Russian Revolution was to get rid of the tsars and make everything fair for everyone and instead they ended up with Stalin oppressing the shot out of everyone
I believe that if you allow people to get power who have killed lots of people to get there (i.e. killing all the nobility), then you’ve essentially made murderers your new rulers. That’s a big part of why Russia ended up with Stalinist terror.
Transfer of power needs to be peaceful. There must be no bloodshed during the next revolution.
Lincoln was a jackass, huh? \s
Peak lib privilege.
This is a garbage liberal take. The Russian Revolution yielded tremendous victories for oppressed people in Russia. It is dishonest, ahistorical nonsense at best to omit the horror that was the Tsarist empire in contrast. That you can point out contradictions within that society in the 20th century explains nothing about what happened to it.
I guess people should just do nothing?
Not to mention the Civil War in USA.
These libs will literally endorse slavery if it maintains their own personal privilege.
That’s basically the whole history of USA.
People really lionize the French Revolution. I get that the grievances behind it were very real but it also led to years of mass slaughter and ended up a dictatorship and then monarchy again anyway.
It worked in the US due to the distance from the main political power center and the existence of local governing institutions that had already been around for a while. A revolution in your home turf, that shared with the political power base, is a different ballgame.
I think most citizenry think that. You don’t need a millionaire to know which way the wind is blowing.
