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cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com to United States | News & Politics@midwest.social · 2 years ago

Proposed bill to make it a crime to download DeepSeek in the US

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Proposed bill to make it a crime to download DeepSeek in the US

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cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com to United States | News & Politics@midwest.social · 2 years ago
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  • mkwt@lemmy.world
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    These models are mostly giant tables of weights that run on standardized framework software, right?

    We’re talking about making illegal numbers again, aren’t we?

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    • threshold_dweller@lemmy.today
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      Its funny what happened with AACS, they didnt learn.

      DeCSS was the same before that. They sure taught us, eh? 🖤🏴‍☠️🖤

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      Were going to need a bigger shirt.

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    Since I don’t see the Bill on the congress website for some reason, here is what the dimwit senator published on his own section:

    https://www.hawley.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Hawley-Decoupling-Americas-Artificial-Intelligence-Capabilities-from-China-Act.pdf

    • TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works
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      2 years ago

      Of course it’s Josh Hawley.

  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Yes, that will definitely put the toothpaste back.

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    DeepSeek did everything right, it will not be possible to ban when anyone can run distilled versions on their own mid-high end consumer hardware and even full version.

  • zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world
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    Well now I’m just gonna download it even harder.

    • SVcrossDO@lemmy.world
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      I will download and upload it everywhere I can, if this gains traction.

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    Because prohibition works, right?

  • The_sleepy_woke_dialectic [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Why doesn’t "Open"AI just train gpt5 with deepseek, and reclaim their stock valuation?

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      Because their premise is that they have an unassailable hardware advantage in the AI space. Deepseek just offered something on par with them while running on hardware that a mid-sized business could put together. OpenAI isn’t special anymore.

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    Damn. Okay, everyone that’s already grabbed a copy off of Ollama needs to upload it back.

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    I guess competition isn’t a thing in the us anymore. What a bunch of pussies.

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    In evil badcountry, the regime makes it a crime simply to posess things from Outside

  • snekerpimp@lemmy.world
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    “The downloading of deep seek is causing the prices of eggs to rise, so stop the downloading and the prices will fall!”

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      • snekerpimp@lemmy.world
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        “Hey kids, I’m a computer!”

  • Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    They’re gonna have a hard time making it illegal to download a completely open source software lol

    • Emotional (he/him)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Unfortunately, as I’ve learned recently, it doesn’t look like Deepseek is actually open source.

      You can download the model, but unless I’m misunderstanding, that feels comparable to calling Photoshop open source because you can download the .exe file on your computer.

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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        You can reweight as you please to whatever dataset you like. They can say what the training data included, but they can’t share the dataset.

      • save_the_humans@leminal.space
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        Its MIT licensed. Meaning the code is open but the license is permissible in that copy’s can be subsequently closed. This is unlike with the GPL most generally associated with open source code.

        • frezik@midwest.social
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          The weights are MIT licensed. The code is, too, but code for these things are uninteresting.

          The training data is not open source, and that’s the interesting part of a model.

      • andMoonsValue@lemmy.world
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        What’s this? https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3

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          This comment here seems to summarize it well: https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3/issues/457#issuecomment-2627016777

          It’s more open-sourced than I thought, but also seems debatable. I don’t know enough about LLMs to properly judge. I would probably stay away from calling it “completely open-sourced” though.

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            Fair, but they gave quite a bit when compared to other leaders in the space such as "open"ai. I’m exciting for this project I stumbled across - https://github.com/huggingface/open-r1. There are gaps in what deepseek provided but others are trying to fill them in.

            • Emotional (he/him)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Of course! I think I’ve been particularly cynical about stuff being named open source because of OpenAI.

              I use LLMs through Perplexity and GitHub CoPilot all the time, but I’m still too spiteful and petty to use anything from "Open"AI. I’ve been very happy with R1 so far.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      Do not tempt them to outlaw open source.

      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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        Facebook already tipped their hand by prematurely banning posts about Linux.

      • TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works
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        The most they could do is try to arbitrarily make the licenses null and void, but there’s no functional way to outlaw making code publicly available without also outlawing the entirety of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.

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    Is this the bill that will finally bring egg prices down?

    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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      No this one is just going to prop up nvidias value for a few more months.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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    Oh I thought we just did Executive Orders these days. Interesting for Congress to want to be in the pocket of the three richest men in the United States, too.

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    Lol. Lmao. Let them try to enforce it.

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