• zqwzzle@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    It would be the funniest thing if a bunch of terminal patients submitted confessions just to tie up resources. A real “I’m Spartacus” situation.

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      It was me. I shot Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare.

      I’m not even terminally ill.

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    Well surely the response from the rich that control the police, work, deliveries, and hospitals is going to be flowers and free health care for all not a violent draconian response that will further make people sick and die under a regime hellbent on revenge.

    Clearly this will work as intended.

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    Brian Thompson’s case shows systemic vs direct violence: one hidden as “civilized,” the other viewed as evil.

    Technology and bureaucracy weaponized for murder and suffering on a massive scale, yet his killer is condemned for directly responding with the same violence Thompson’s actions produced. I only feel sorry for the people who are suffering or have passed away due to the healthcare industry.

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      I’ve heard the term “social murder” recently I’m relation to this. He might not have personally used a weapon against them but anyone who had died as a result of denying coverage for a life-threatening condition has been murdered socially.

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        Which means he should’ve had more empathy for the families he’s denied medical care for, right?

        I saw someone post a pic of his family trying to get people to empathize with him, and to be honest it just makes me think even less of him.

        I don’t really know how someone can love their kids, but deny healthcare to other children. He’d be less of a monster if he was just completely devoid of humanity all the time instead of when he’s just clocked in for work.

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          I don’t really know how someone can love their kids, but

          Did he? Just because he had a family doesn’t mean he gave a shit about them…

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            I mean, fair enough. Kinda hard for me to remember people can actively feel contempt or just complete disinterest for any kid, let alone their own.

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              Also there’s a “love” that’s prevalent among the affluent that isn’t love at all.

              Where children are seen more as and expected to fill the role as familial assets of the patriarch, more an extension of the parent’s legacy. No appreciation for the kids themselves as individuals, but attempted clones of the parents, and met with disdain when they fail to fill that mold as a failed investment.

              The Trumps and Murdochs come to mind, and among extreme wealth, thats the rule not the exception.

              It’s not contempt at the outset or disinterest, they see their children as assets, no different than stock or capital, to play to increase the reach of THEIR leverage, even after they’re dead.

              As a parent, I have a great deal of contempt for parents that expect their kids to further their own interests or expect/demand they become little clones of them.

              Kids don’t owe you shit, you owe them.

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          This is the thing, exactly! It’s called The Banality of Evil. When Adolf Eichmann was being tried in Nuremberg for war crimes he committed in Auschwitz, it was widely remarked on about his lack of ‘evilness’. The dude seemed like a mild mannered accountant, and by all means was, but he helped enact one of the most heinous and calculated acts of genocide in all of history.

          Monsters are easy to point at and shudder, monstrous humanity is far harder to accept let alone vilify. This piece of shit CEO is firmly in the Eichmann camp of evil and we should fucking celebrate he’s dead.

      • spirinolas@lemmy.world
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        The wife chose marrying a psychopath. She’s no better. The kids will be somewhat better off being raised by only one piece of shit instead of two.

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        I’m a husband and father. I wouldn’t disappoint them by killing thousands of people and getting shot for it. It’s a reason to not do evil things.

      • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world
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        Did his wife and children know what he did for a living?

        If anyone doesn’t know what the point of my question is, I can only direct them to go watch The Zone of Interest (2023).

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    It’s such a weird place to be.

    We are all trying to be respectful. A person has died, and that is a horrible thing. But this guy runs a company that has cause so much suffering to so many people. He may not be directly responsible for pain, suffering, and likely death, but if he had run his company more fairly, none of that would have happened.

    When people made jokes about trump nearly getting killed, people kicked off and said it was abhorant to wish death upon him (despite him being a foul human being)

    But I really want to just say this guy deserves it and tell people to fuck off trying to make me be respectful of this terrible person.

    Somebody validate my anger.

    Somebody just tell me i can hate this individual and not be bothered that he died.

    • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      We are all trying to be respectful

      Speak for yourself, I and many others are doing our best to make it clear we offer 0 respect at all

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      I already have been called evil for simply not having any empathy toward this man. Apparently there are some that believe even the worst people deserve empathy despite being shown time and time again they don’t care about the sick and dying over making a profit. I never advocated for violence or murder, I never cheered or claimed more should die. But I’m the evil one for not caring about this guy somehow. I honestly don’t know if humanity has a chance with all of this corporate dick sucking.

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        It is because they are insulated from the damage these people leave in the wake of “doing their jobs”. If I or you sent their family into financial ruin by extorting their health/existence they’d be whistling a different tune.

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      Fuck that dude. You can be happy when bad people die. It’s normal to laugh and even cheer when someone that has caused the death of many people gets what is due to them. You just feel odd about it because we aren’t used to seeing rich and power people face consequences.

      I wish more of these public and mass shooter actually use their energy and focus on a positive act for change. Our collective empathy has been stolen in this current system. We aren’t supposed to bat an eye when kids get shot in school, but NOW it’s a problem and we shouldn’t joke. Fuck off with that noise.

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      Most of us couldn’t care less about this guy! I for one thinks he deserved it and let this be a warning to other corps doing the same shit! The people have to take the power back and I support these actions!

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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      Somebody validate my anger.

      I work at a children’s hospital, a couple times a week United Healthcare denies treatment that could allow some of my pediatric patients with severe mobility issues to do things like run, or play outside with their friends. All because having a somewhat normal life isn’t medically necessary, or isn’t a covered benefit, or were not a preferred provider…and the nearest in network provider is 6 hours away.

      Every time I have to explain to a parent that Medicaid would have paid for this, but mom and dad worked a little too hard and so they don’t qualify for state care… I die a little on the inside.

      So I for one don’t really care about being respectful, and can reassure you that you shouldn’t feel the need to either. People who show no humanity towards disabled children are not human in my book.

      Today has been cathartic and I’m going to have a little pep in my step on my walk home.

  • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world
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    Reddit Admins are watching their site burn because basically everybody is supporting and condoning the killer, and they don’t like that. Its quite funny.

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    No, this belongs more to a collapse or civil war thread than it does here.

    This is not an endorsement, this is observation of basic, predictable human behavior. The working class is squeezed financially to the nth degree. There IS a breaking point. That sense of impending “something” many people have been feeling since well before the election has not gone away, and the squeeze is a source.

    And here it is. What is probably the first shot fired on someone in charge of that ongoing financial hardship, that squeeze.

    The scariest thing here is that there’s social contagion to these behaviors, especially those squeezed hard enough they feel they’ve little to nothing left to lose.

    This is a domino.

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      As a person past that breaking point, I gotta say that I do endorse this. Whatever his motives may be, the shooter is a hero. America is desperate for justice, we need so much more of this.

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        I wouldn’t call the shooter a hero (not that they don’t deserve a positive title), they are a victim unfortunately and I wouldn’t want people to start calling me a hero if I had to go through that (killing can’t be easy mentally or emotionally).

        I’m just waiting for the whatever (individual/group/notsurewhatthefuckwouldwork) that fixes the problem on a more permanent basis (they’re just gonna pay the next CEO more now). If this actually becomes a trend I could see it being effective (fear is a powerful motivator), but even with things like school shootings it doesn’t actually change anything. The richer CEO’s and others of that class will just laugh at the poorer CEO’s who actually have to go out in public like that.

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          Nobody who acts like a hero does it without having incurred massive personal suffering to drive them

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      Yea the tariffs will probably be seen as some sort of breaking point together with this some years from now.

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      The scariest thing here is that there’s social contagion to these behaviors, especially those squeezed hard enough they feel they’ve little to nothing left to lose.

      This is a domino.

      Here’s hoping. We’re WAY overdue for guillotine day.

      • Alex@lemmy.world
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        People should quit while ahead and stop looking up to wealth and titles if they don’t want to run into a Gavrilo Princip

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          Considering the Archduke was the heir of the austro-hungarian throne and the HRE having been defunct for over 100 years, this is basically on the level of someone assassinating the VP

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            Lol I wasn’t trying to elevate him but say that he was no more than an oligarch (CEO) today. Didn’t realize he was the heir to the successor state, just being silly… Guess I was wrong!

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      We’ve been seeing ‘first dominoes’ fall for over a decade now. I’m at the point where I don’t think it’s going to be as big and flashy as people hope. If electing a genocidal rapist as president TWICE didn’t stir the world into action, I don’t think the pitiful death of some no-name ceo is going to do it. Things like this will keep happening, but in the grand scheme, nothing is going to change.

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        Especially because we don’t even know what the motive was. For all we know, it could have been a competitor that wants his job, or a board member who was displeased by his decisions. The people running these companies have shown a million times over that life means nothing to them.