“Being miserable builds character!”
Kate is all 7 of those things. 30 years ago it would have been fine to tell her so. What happened to society?
“long-term complications of childhood chicken pox” is one search that they don’t do
Profound hole in the “do your own research” theory: not knowing how to do thorough research
Even if they get the right search terms, they’ll just keep scrolling till they find an obscure blog with an anecdote from 2 mothers which confirms their existing bias.
Or even having the time to do all this research I apparently need to do.
Not to mention that some research ends up behind pay walls and knowledge barriers.
What do you mean I have to “read a book”? I’ll just find a wellness blog to tell me the thing I want to hear.
Yeah, I don’t wanna hear shit about chickenpox being good for a child. I was too young to be able to get the vaccine and because of that, there’s a chance I get the complications of getting pox that you get later in life. It wasn’t even my own parents fault, since I caught it in daycare.
Also, if I remember correctly, Japan rolled out the first chickenpox vaccines to prevent it from becoming a mass epidemic on their island nation.
Edit:
It’s shingles. That’s the complication that can happen later in life after having pox.
If shingles are good for a roof, why not you? Checkmate liberals
Chicken pox was. Miserable, and I’m didn’t have it that bad.
Give the kids the vaccine
Shingles fuckin sucks. Had it crop up when I was in 6th grade, only like 5 or 6 years after having chicken pox. Miserable week or so. Not that I’ll have to, but I wouldn’t make my kids go to school if they had shingles.
In Denmark we don’t vaccinate for chicken pox for exactly the reasons given in the post.
I hope you vaccinate for shingles then, because it can be very painful and debilitating
It may also be due to concerns with uptake. Outcomes can be worse at middling vaccination rates with varicella.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10075481
Universal varicella vaccination (UVV) is not currently part of the Danish National Immunization Program [4]. In the absence of a UVV program, the estimated varicella disease burden in Denmark is considerable, with 63,500 cases annually, mainly among those under the age of 5 years [5]
Oh wow.
And afaik, you guys have a decent healthcare system, so the state is paying for the consultations and treatments of the complications. The vaccine is 40€, I hope nobody goes to the generalist about it twice.
And I just found out it’s not mandatory in France either. I was convinced it was mandatory everywhere.
I had chicken pox when I was three and it’s one of my few memories from that time in my life.
Fuuuuuck these people abusing their children.
The vaccine was just after I got it. Miserable. I lived in an oatmeal bath. My poor mother got it as an adult (when we got it and gave it to her)
She was worse up in all ways.
I’d have gnawed someone’s ankle off to have gotten the vaccine instead. But especially for my mother to have gotten it.
I had chicken pox as a kid and while it wasn’t horrible, I def could’ve done without a lesion appearing both on my dick and the roof of my mouth.
Anti vaxxers are fucking bonkers
I had dick pox too. I remember being like, 9, and dabbing that horrible yellow ointment on my foreskin and shaft. That was my first “I’m too old for this shit” moment
In other news, measles is spreading in Canada and the US (but only Canada is reporting it)
Also, measles attacks memory cells, thus destroying build up immunity.
We all had it when we were kids. A friend of mine had it really bad and he has pock marks all over his face and body, he was always the handsome one, but after that it changed him and he was never the same again.
From then on, always looking down at the ground, brooding, scratching the dirt with his feet, eating bugs, and going crazy for buckets of scraps
I am currently in the middle of my second round of shingles. I have extreme pain from my right knee, up through my groin, and over my buttock, and to the middle of my chest on the right side. Any touch, including my increase, clothes, and bed sheets is very painful. Putting my underwear on and taking it off is agony.
I am contagious so I can’t go anywhere near children or the immune compromised.
Fortunately I have access to modern medicine and got a prescription for famcyclovir for the shingles and pregabalin for the nerve pain.
Seriously, get your children vaccinated. If you haven’t had chicken pox get yourself vaccinated. If you had chicken pox get the shingles vaccine. If you got the old shingles vaccine get the new shingles vaccine, it’s better.
And, most important of all, fuck the antivaxers.
Yup, I’ve had shingles twice both on my left shoulder and I’m not even 40. On top of that I’ve developed chronic nerve pain in the same place that was so bad a few years ago i thought it was a heart attack. I’ve got it managed now after trying half a dozen drugs over 2 years until i found one that worked with minimal side effects.
If all that could have been avoided with a vaccine when i was a kid, I’d hate my parents if they didn’t get it for me.
Annoyingly, where I live, they won’t let you have the shingles vaccine until age 50 for… reasons, I guess?
But you better believe it’s one of the items on my to do list for my 50th birthday week.
I’m going to get the fucking vaccine as soon as I can after I’m done with this round. Two rounds of the shingles is uncommon, three is rare, but I’m not going to take the chance.
fuck the antivaxers.
No, don’t. That’s how we get more of the idiots.
Fuck them with a fire hydrant?
That’s on fire.
Yeah, thanks to my mom being an anti-vaccer I’m now stuck with shingles for life too. Every ten years it’ll crop up again, I’ve been told. No way to get rid of it once you have it. It’ll just hang out in your nerve ends, dormant, and occasionally wake up.
My first bout of shingles was two years ago. Here in Denmark it’s called “helvedild”, literally translated to “hellfire”, an apt name.
Thanks mom.
Do you have access to famcyclovir? If you begin treatment within 72 hours of the onset of symptoms it can stop the outbreak quickly and prevents the postherpatic neuralgia that sometimes happens in older people.
During my first outbreak the doctor said he was going to prescribe acyclovir and that the rash would spread to cover half of my body including my eyes, nose, mouth, genitals, and anus. Fun. I asked what would happen if I didn’t take the acyclovir. He said, “The same thing.” So the acyclovir does nothing. I asked him to prescribe famcyclovir. He said it was much more expensive than acyclovir but he would prescribe it if I wanted. It cost $200 for the treatment but the blisters didn’t spread from the first small patch on my right hip and dried up within a couple of days. Why the hell would I take acyclovir if it does nothing if famcyclovir is available.
This time around the doctor just wrote me the prescription for famcyclovir. I’ve taken 3 doses so far and the blisters on my thigh seem reduced.
I think I was actually prescribed Famcyclovir. Scary stuff that warned about the potential of peeing out your liver and kidneys, but the alternative is much worse.
I started taking those pills within 24 hours of my apparent shingles outbreak. The pain was so bad I couldn’t sleep and I cried. On medication it already started to lessen. I was given a week’s worth of medication, with the doctor telling me that the medication should combat the outbreak in a week. That’s exactly what happened.
I had the outbreak on one of my nerve bands, going from the middle of my spine, curving around my side, and ending in my crotch.
Every ten years it’ll crop up again, I’ve been told
Not likely. This might be a misplaced average. While Shingles can break out any time your immunity is weakened most people don’t get it until they’re old. For example: four brothers including myself: one got it, once. On the other hand I believe like two out of three elderly will have an outbreak, and repeatedly
Yeah, but I got it when I was 29. The doctor told me it’s pretty weird for me so young to get an outbreak, but not unheard of. It was the doctor who also told me I’ll likely get regular outbreaks throughout my life, but yes, she did mention more likely the older I am.
Hmm, difficult topic. For example, we have Mumps here as a child. It’s just something you better have, because you have it only once and if you get it as a grown-up, it gets difficult, medications or not.
And big pharma is evil, like, not creating a helpful medicine because it wouldn’t net enough profits, because that’s how megacorps are.
But not in the sense of “there’s some scary names in vaccinations”.No
Yeah, make sure your kid gets mumps. Don’t worry that he or she might be one of the unlucky percentage that end up with:
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Inflammation of the testicles (orchitis); this may lead to a decrease in testicular size (testicular atrophy)
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Inflammation of the ovaries (oophoritis) and/or breast tissue (mastitis)
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Inflammation in the pancreas (pancreatitis)
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Inflammation of the brain (encephalitis); they can lead to death or permanent disability
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Inflammation of the tissue covering the brain and spinal cord (meningitis)
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Loss of hearing (temporary or permanent)
That’s all way better than getting the MMR vaccination that has a far, far lower chance of having even a mild side effect.
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