The Environmental Protection Agency is moving forward with approvals for pesticides containing “forever chemicals” as an active ingredient, dismissing concerns about health and environmental impacts raised by some scientists and activists.

This month, the agency approved two new pesticides that meet the internationally recognized definition for per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, also known as PFAS or fluorinated substances, and has announced plans for four additional approvals. The authorized pesticides, cyclobutrifluram and isocycloseram, which was approved Thursday, will be used on vegetables such as romaine lettuce, broccoli and potatoes.

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  • SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    8 months ago

    Now, I am not a very eco-friendly kind of person…but I don’t trust the Trump Regime to not fuck up. Their approvals here will almost certainly kill people, and probably wouldn’t even benefit capitalists in the long run.

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    8 months ago

    Americans are fucking twats. What a pathetic excuse for a country they’ve become.

    oh well.

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          In the USA all other political parties are effectively barred from participation. The barriers are high the costs are worse.

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      Well, considering the news that a large portion of the maga online influencers are actually from foreign countries, I think maybe it’s not just their own doing…

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      You think the forces that did this to us aren’t targeting your country? You’re in for some fun times ahead

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    8 months ago

    …they’re giving me cancer while simultaneously quadrupling my health insurance payments. My government has decided to kill me.

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            You can’t filter out PFAS from the food chain.

            Agricultural runoff gets into water supplies. In water supplies it gets used for irrigation, drinking water for animals, or goes out to sea.

            In each case forever chemicals will just build up.

            So even like that wagyu beef or wild caught fish eventually is just poisoning you.

            Plus PFAS are notorious for being difficult to filter and when they do break down they break down into smaller halomethanes/haloalkanes which are also typically toxic and even harder to filter conventionally. The main way to eliminate halomethanes is to bubble water to evaporate them into the air. A slow process which will make the contaminants airborne.

            Of course what does it matter if you get a new beach house courtesy of Bayer or Monsanto

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              Even if it’s 100% true, you’re being unnecessarily negative. It’s not a binary question, but “more” or “less”. There is definitely value in wayvpcho g the sources of your food

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                8 months ago

                Nobody said “don’t watch what you eat” so don’t bullshit yourself about what’s being said here.

                I’ve worked on PFAS filtration system designs that the US military funded for cities near airbases. Firefighting PFAS materials made their way into a lot of well water systems and municipal systems sometimes very far way. Its very difficult to reliably remove them from water.

                These materials are hard to control once they’re out in the wild.

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                  8 months ago

                  These materials are hard to control once they’re out in the wild.

                  Extremely, and that’s my bottom line to someone who claims some chemical in the hugeclass that makes up PFAShasn’t been proven harmful yet. Can we afford until it is unavoidably ubiquitous in the environment, can’t be cleaned up, and will last indefinitely? And it may already be

                  But I’ll also stand by: protected watershed makes a difference, filtered water makes a difference, organic food makes a difference. We’re already at the point of these chemicals being unavoidable in the environment, but we can take actions to reduce our personal exposure

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            Are there any water filters that are proven to filter PFAS?

            And what about irrigation water that is contaminated and sprayed on the organic crops?

            I get the rich people hate, but this does feel like an issue that will impact literally everyone. Once something is in the water cycle it’s hard to get rid of it.

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              For filters with semipermeable membranes, like sea water filters, FPAS and similar molecules are way too big to pass.

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                Filtration of PFAS depends on the individual makeup of each chemical. The cross section of a organic fluoride containing compound is about the same as water so I would expect for chemicals without aromatic rings or branches a membrane would not be as effective and even then what’s happening is a time bomb where when these chemicals do eventually break down they break down into things that are harder to filter.

                We should be blanket restricting organohalides except iodine based ones.

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              Zero filters claim to filter PFAS. I don’t know if certified organic produce allows these chemicals to be used, but the organization that certifies food is also federal, so there’s no reason to trust it. I’m really hoping organic produce is safe from this. I would be able to get produce at Costco which is often both organic and affordable.

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                Maybe but many eat at restaurants etc. I would actually expect rich people have relatively high baseline exposure outside affected communities.

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        I have bad news about forever chemicals for whatever dumbass thinks this will only affect poor people.

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          Nah, the wealthy can use extremely expensive cutting edge filtering methods that remove all PFAS chemicals. I’ve done a whole research project on this. There are a handful of different methods, it’s just that it’s prohibitively expensive to scale up.

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    8 months ago

    Of course they did. Trump ended the EPA months ago. Think “invasion of the body snatchers” but for government.

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    8 months ago

    Every country in the world should ban food from the US.

    I’m sorry if you’re American, you’re fucked, but it’s what you guys voted for. The rest of the world should try and save itself

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      The “fun” part is that ‘forever chemicals’ really are what they’re claiming to be on the label. Practically every living thing on the planet has some PFAS stuff in their body. Veritasium made a video about that a while back.

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      As an American I agree, I don’t trust our government to do the right thing and big corporations run all our farms. I don’t trust them to do the right thing either.

      Unfortunately, that shit gets into the water and makes its way everywhere.

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    Never trust anything the fda says or does. Ever. Its a for sale organization.

    I got into an argument the other day with someone cause I said Americas food is poison. And they said i was simply trash talking America with no proof. No proof? Uhhhhhh

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    I know prices can be prohibitive, but the more we can buy organic, the better. It’s the only alternative agricultural method that has gained enough commercial traction that, if it ever does become popular enough, has the possibility of making the pesticide-dependent model infeasible as a business model.