Tesla Cybertruck appears to be facing significant sales challenges. After initial hype faded, and over a million reservations turned out to be as real as unicorns, Tesla is now enabling leasing options and free upgrades to move its inventory of the futuristic pickup truck. The company’s recent silence on the Cybertruck, even omitting it from their earnings call, speaks volumes about the situation.
Tesla initially projected sales of 500,000 Cybertrucks annually and established production capacity at the Giga Texas for 250,000 units per year. After working through the initial reservation backlog with fewer than 40,000 deliveries, the automaker is now struggling to sell the remaining vehicles.
EV trucks will never make sense. Hybrids can but I have yet to see anything I would buy.
The Silverado EV and F150 lightning seem pretty decent from the specs, but towing anything they still seriously suck. But for most people they’re actually already pretty good… Unlike the cyber truck.
I’ve been following Edison Motors. EV and Hybrid both make sense and can work depending on the application. They managed some real work tests towing log trailers without the genset kicking on.
Personally, I would have a model line with the option to either have an all EV or hybrid drivetrain. Share parts from the battery to the wheel, but more batteries where the engine/generator would go if it’s the pure EV option.
You hit the nail on the head. If it can’t tow it’s pretty useless as a truck. If someone doesnt tow they probably dont need a truck in the first place otherwise they are better off with a gas model. The unfortunate thing is that regulations have forced manufacturers to implement shitty ICE drivetrains. Everything is a turbo now which is “more efficient” but there is no way they will last as long as the naturally aspirated V6 or V8s that would go for 400-500k miles.
The average use case for the majority of truck owners in the US does not involve towing. Light trucks are driven an average of around 30 miles per day, which is why I say for most people they’re actually in a pretty good position, other than being pretty expensive vehicles of course. If you own a caravan or something and are doing regular massive road trips, you are the minority that these vehicles still don’t cater to.
Everything is a turbo now which is “more efficient” but there is no way they will last as long as the naturally aspirated V6 or V8s that would go for 400-500k miles.
uh, it’s pretty common for turboed diesels to go over 500k miles. It’s been standard since the late 90’s.
If that’s the case that’s great. Not familiar with turbo diesels. I know that the turbo failure rate is non-trivial for regular gas vehicles and the repairs can be expensive.
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Even most work trucks aren’t towing very often. Even on job sites, most of the towed equipment is either brought in the first day and stays there (though with minor relocations) or it’s brought in by the rental company, with their own vehicles.
If you actually value low end torque over everything else, electric is a gimme.
Sounds like that’s not your use case.
Electic motors are unmatched for torque and response time. No debate there but if you need to tow a big ass camper your range is going to suck if you dont have some hybrid config.
Yup, not your use case.
Pepsi is using EV semis going cross county. Never say never
I think they do/will make a lot of sense. Being able to drive to a job site and run your welder or other tools from the truck’s battery seems like a game changer for certain applications. The Chevy Silverado EV and the F-150 Lightning seem pretty nice to me. They’ll both be much more appealing once battery tech, charging speed, and charging infrastructure improve. I’m pretty stoked about this new company called Telo, I hope they make it. It’s a pretty small truck with an 8’ bed that’s about as long as a Mini Cooper, plus it has the solar tech from Aptera.
Edit: and I imagine the Rivian R2T and R3T will be pretty sweet.
I think a generator for that purpose would likely make a lot more sense. I can’t see buying an electric truck just so you can use its battery to weld. Maybe that’s a nice to have at best.
Yeah, a generator would be a great option for most people, I imagine.
In the words of a wise yellow character HA HA
Have they tried making a decent truck?
The main reason I bought a truck was to tow heavy shit, and this piece of fuck trash Cyber truck can’t even do that without the battery failing after less than 100 miles. Meanwhile an F150 can tow six times it’s own weight thousands of miles.
Well that would make you in the 10% of people actually using their truck
I bought a truck as a back up to my daily and weekend warrior, purely for towing and dirty jobs.
Always used my daily with a tow hitch for most things and honestly still pick it with a 6x8’ trailer on occasion over my truck often because it’s easier to maneuver…
A few of us exist
The one person I know who owns a cyber truck was upset when I didn’t call him when I had a truck needing emergency, my wife’s car had broken down on a freeway offramp. The people that own these stupid things are cos playing as truck people even moreso than the average truck owner. The weirder part of his upsetness is, I was already driving a 3/4 ton truck because my commuter vehicle was not running. All I had to do was go get a uhaul trailer and go get her car. My mind is still boggled that he threw a fit about not calling him.
LOL. I have a truck for towing and other truck-related things and am quite happy to help others with aforementioned truck activities when asked. The amount of times I get upset when people don’t call me to do truck things is like, hmmmm let’s see…zero. It is zero times. A shrug is all I might manage to evoke from the drama.
Do you get upset when people move without calling you? 😄
Yes! Shouldn’t your parents tell you before you come home from school???
It was the weirdest shit. He doesn’t know anything about towing or hauling. His cybertruck is the first truck like vehicle he has ever owned and for some reason his ego tells him he’s qualified to help. Its probably his total lack of experience that caused his upset.
To redeem him a bit he is incredibly willing to help people. He’s just got more money than brains and experience lol.
Yah, I was about to mention ego being very much involved in all of this from the purchase of the “truck” to feeling spurned by not being asked to help. My ego would be hard-pressed to avoid educating him. Politely, of course.
Tbf it’s kinda a fundamental limitation of electric vehicles vs gas that the energy density of gas is way higher.
I’m surprised you mentioned the battery (which is a problem with any EV towing), and not the fact the hitch can just snap off if you hit a pothole hard enough.
Wait what?!?!
All DEI fault for this failure
/s (if it wasn’t obvious 🙂)
Why isn’t the puny, petulant man-thing that runs the Nazicar Factory not suing us all for not buying them? That’s how you deal with advertisers who don’t wanna advertise with him so why not consumers who don’t want to consume?
It’s the next stupid, asinine step.
I hope anyone who ever admired this fuck face is deeply embarrassed. Or losing money.
pulls out all the stops
I’m surprised those weren’t optional, paid DLC
I think the reason Cybertruck sales have ground to a halt has to do with their CEO Department’s way of managing things and breaking into Governmental Agency’s Private Information. It’s also the reason you will find “FUCK ELON MUSK” being spray-painted onto Cybertrucks.
I certainly find it funny that Tesla’s waiting list went from five years down to zero. Even Tesla’s biggest fans who actually stumped money on this thing produced video after video griping about its price & brokenness.
But frankly it was kind of obvious from the get-go that it would be an expensive, uninsurable, lemony asshole death mobile. I wonder if the next time Tesla announces something and Musk spews lie after lie about it that people will start to cotton on that nothing he says can be taken at face value.
Nazi truck.
Apparently Elon hates it when you call them swasticars, so definitely do not do that.
I’m not sure why, but every time I see one I think of a giant tick that has guzzled way too much blood and is about to explode.
*SwastiKKKar
I can understand why Nazis like it, given the truck’s habit of trapping you inside as it engulfs you in flames.
Wankpanzer
Apartheidsemi
Fashcan?
I wonder how Tesla sales in Israel are going?
I’m betting high odds he will force the federal government to buy them under the guise of a green EV transition. With trump’s full blessing, of course.
Look out, maybe you can soon dig up your own Cybertruck at a Texas quarry…
Tesla made 2.8 billion last year from selling regulatory credits. So they really didn’t have to care how many cars they sold. But those surely are going away, so they are going to have to do some other government handout, which Elon is probably hand picking right now.
I got some advice for them: Fire your CEO.
Have they tried making a good car?
