I don’t find shame in cheating in video games. It was a stigma to hear about growing up, that cheating in video games meant you prefer the shortcuts in life or that you didn’t know what earning anything was. When, that was all just bullshit talk.

I cheat in video games, when available to on some games, to give me a little kick of fun. Sometimes I don’t have the patience to tediously go through the standard way. Other times, I feel I’ve earned it anyways, because of having undergone the stresses and frustrations or the time I’ve played of certain games to go through the normal way.

Like in Terraria, it’s a game I’ve clocked in upwards of 900 hours. I felt like I had done everything in the game prior to the content that added the Moon Lord and many other things. At that time, it was 850 hours.

So the point of the matter is, yeah I don’t find it that big of a deal to cheat in video games. If I cared to and want to, I’m decent enough to handle games without cheats, given enough time.

Multiplayer of course I never cheat in those.

    • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      In the original halo on PC I modded the game so the rifle was shoot out banshees instead of bullets. I also made the warthog fly. I guess now that I’m typing this is was not really cheating as it was a 1v1 match and we got to screw around with the mods is did.

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          Haha, that never occurred to me. That’s a cool one.

          I wanted to make it shoot plasma grenades, but at first it just blew up in my face, then it lobbed plasma grenades in front of me.

          Eventually I changed the impact of the bullet on each object in the game so it would explode like a plasma grenade instead of giving off the impact animation.

          Took forever.

          I wonder if I can still install that old version anywhere and mess with the hex codes.

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        Bungie had a whole semi official mod for Halo 1 on PC called Custom Edition. Chaos Gultch, anyone? Completely insane fun online.

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        Context: that’s an “anarchy” server where modifying the client is explicitly allowed.

        I wouldn’t count that as cheating.

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    Only single player games – and usually only after they become monotonous playing the intended way.

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      Monotonous, or if you’re hopelessly stuck. If I can’t get past a puzzle or fight, and I’d otherwise stop playing because it’s not fun anymore, I’ll look up a solution. The alternative is not finishing the game and not seeing the rest of the content or story.

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    Not so much anymore because I haven’t figured it out on my Steam Deck but ABSOLUTELY with PC games. Strictly a solo player though.

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      Hey there! I ran across this comment and the subsequent thread and wanted to reach out to you!

      WeMod (I will never call it Wand lol) can be used with Linux to varying degrees. I use this little project to play my games with WeMod.

      I’m running openSUSE Tumbleweed, and have had a very high rate of success with using WeMod while on openSUSE. I’ve probably beaten about 20 games with them since last year when I made the move to openSUSE. Now, some games do not work right off the bat with it, and I’m not sure why.

      If you have any troubles, please reach back out to me in a comment here, so that if we fix your issue, others might benefit too.

      Cheers! :)

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        I used to use WeMod (they go by a different name now) but it was on Windows. Linux (Kubuntu) is my main OS but haven’t gotten into cheat software with it yet. Suggestions?

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      Bind one of the back buttons to tilde (~) and then pull up your steam keyboard, if you’re talking about console cheats (like in Skyrim or Fallout).

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        Ahh, that makes sense. I think the only games I’d want to cheat with are like…Hades, Silksong, and some strategy games like Humankind.

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    Only in single player games and typically only when it’s too challenging like that mission/quest that is just really frustrating.

    Or if I’ve already beaten the game and lost progress and just want to quickly get back to where I was.

    Other than that, not really much. Maybe once in a while just to fuck around, but that’s about it for me. I don’t think it should be that big of a deal for single player offline games and you’re not trying to hit a leaderboard. It’s annoying seeing those on some games’ leaderboards and it’s obvious they’re there just because they cheated.

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    Almost never. I’ve stopped even changing difficulties for difficult boss fights. Gives me more satisfaction and makes me feel better at games than I actually am. If I die 24 times and manage to get it on the 25th, then at least I was actually able to do it eventually. Just more fun imo. No shame in it though, just a personal preference.

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      Same here. I’ll intentionally play on the hardest difficulty (hell, sometimes I’ll find a mod that adds even harder difficulties if there is one) and don’t mind running boss fights 50 times if that’s what it takes to beat them. Just makes it all the sweeter in the end.

      Though some games take difficulty settings way too far in lazy and unfun ways. Like when Oblivion Remastered came out, I tried it on master difficulty and quickly noticed I was getting one-shot by enemies in the tutorial and was almost unable to hurt them because I was doing 6x less damage and taking 6x more. I tried it for a while but it just wasn’t fun in the slightest so I lowered it eventually.

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        Oblivion is pretty unbalanced imo. It was a good game, but designed strangely. I personally think that difficulty should just be about the player taking more damage, not enemies taking less as well. Leveling up making the game harder was also interesting. Worth playing though. I think I started on the medium difficulty and stayed there tbh.

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          I usually don’t mind enemies having more health or taking less damage, but there’s gotta be a limit, and 6x is definitely far, far above that limit. Oblivion Remastered in particular was funny, because the damage multipliers only affect you. Meaning your followers or summons deal and take normal damage from enemies. If your sword feels like a wet noodle but your allies are doing just fine, something’s wrong. The difficulty sliders in that game were just poorly designed.

          I think I eventually swapped to whatever setting is right above 1x damage taken/dealt. Fights were a bit too easy imo, but at least every mud crab wasn’t practically a miniboss.

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      The one and only time I “cheated” at Elden Ring was to spawn in some DLC weapons (hand-to-hand arts and perfume bottles) for a brand new character. Not because they were overpowered but because I hadn’t used them on any of my previous characters and they looked fun so I wanted to use them for a full playthrough. And they were quite fun. Better than I expected too, but certainly not top tier weapons.

      Of course I could have just asked a friend to drop them for me instead but it was easier to just “cheat” them in :)

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        Yeah, I completely understand that. Sometimes you’re not trying to bust your ass for some cool items, just easier to do that (idk if this is how weapons in Elden Ring work, haven’t played it yet). I used to allow myself to lower the difficulty significantly in Fallen Order for one specific boss, which, imo, is fucking awful, even on medium (Knight) difficulty. I replayed the game about a week ago on the highest difficulty, and while some sections were harder than others, I only got hit once and beat it on my first try. It felt good to beat everything in the supposed hardest possible way that was intended. Having fun is the only thing that really matters, and I think that a decent amount of people have seemed to forget about that.

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    Never in multi-player.

    Single player very rarely. I dont like looking up guides either unless im absolutely stuck and ready to quit the game over it.

    Im absolutely a person who does everything the hard way and looks down on anyone taking an easy road. To me it devalues people who actually do work hard (example, using auto tune/melodyne vs actually learning to sing. I dont care how transparent it is, its cheating and waters down the real talented singers out there).

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    Not just games but in real life. I’ll do whatever it takes to succeed and reach my goal even if it’s steps on a few toes, even if it means the destruction of the planet.

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    Finding cheat codes for Sega Genesis games was my introduction to the internet. It was so fun getting to tell other kids at school about cheat codes that you knew about for their games.

    These days I don’t, mainly because they don’t seem to have them anymore, and also because if I’m not enjoying the game with its base mechanics I have plenty of other games in my backlog that I can check out instead.

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    In single player games? Yeah.

    Save editors for Mass Effect to unlock squad mates early for spoken lines that I would have never heard earlier, cheating in rare candies on emulated Pokémon games or making Pokémon shiny too.

    I recall using something similar for Borderlands 2 circa 2012/2013 to get certain guns to drop with the right parts as well.

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      I absolutely love using save editors to dick around with borderlands gun drops. It’s the only game that I genuinely want a crafting system in, I wanna be able to scarp all those guns for the best parts and fuse them into an unholy abomination. Fuck balance, this is a co-op power trip not a chess match.

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          I had a mirvin’ mirvin’ mirvin’ mirvin’ magic missle on my Gage. One button and the whole county looks like the Eridium Blight.

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    Depends on the definition of cheating. Here are a couple of ways in which I “cheat”:

    I didn’t have the skill to progress beyond 4BC in Dead Cells, so I downloaded someone else’s save file with all items unlocked.

    If I hit a wall in Silksong to the point that it starts to put me off the game, then I look up a walkthrough to see where the nearest undiscovered bench is or where to fine the thing I’m looking for.

    For any game if I end too frustrated by a boss, I’ll watch a YouTube video to learn the attack patterns and avoid repeatedly dying to learn them. This is especially true for roguelites where I may have to cross 3 levels to get to a possible chance at a boss, and then get killed.

    In FTL I used to copy out the save files to allow me to save scum if I died. The game is a roguelite and doesn’t allow loading saves in case of mistakes of death…so this is a workaround to save scum.

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    In survival crafting games I’ll almost always make it easier on myself through the world settings or something. Getting rid of item and food decay, boosting XP gain, making sure I get 100+ of each resource anytime I go mining or whatever.

    Enshrouded is a massive pain in the ass on normal settings, so I make it easier to explore, gather, and fight enemies. Otherwise it’d take me at least twice as long to get to where I’m at in the game, and that already took me over 100 hours.

    Palworld I do all those things and increase pal spawn rate so there’s always at least 5 pals in a group at any given time. It makes capturing them so much easier.

    Idk the last time I actually “cheated” in a video game though. Maybe one of the Lego games?

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    Mostly singleplayer, when I feel like I’ve completed the most that the game would offer. Sometimes save cheesing/rng manipulation if I can’t get a certain thing to go my way, but not a lot.

    On multiplayer, I did used to play anarchy minecraft servers (where cheats level the playing ground for everyone), but nothing that breaks that balance. Multiplayer is only fun when everyone has similar tools to you.

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    If save scumming counts as cheating, then yes. But otherwise, I’ve only ever used cheats in single player games and I really only use cheats if either the game sucks or the cheats I used didn’t effect gameplay. Some of the times I remember using cheats are:

    Using the “fixme” command in Morrowind because I got stuck somewhere.

    Using various cheats in the GTA games, after I had already beaten the main story, just so I can cause some mayhem.

    Using the “giveall” command in Doom because I installed a weapon mod that required it.

    Using the free cam that built into some emulators.

    I used to use save states in old video games that didn’t have saving systems but I don’t do this anymore. I just only play them until I get to a point I can’t progress.

    I think I remember using a cheat code to access unused content in at least one game, but I can’t remember what game that was.

    While I haven’t played it yet, there is a PS2 (I think) game that requires using a cheat code to enable widescreen (or was it 720i, or maybe there was more than one game that did this, I can’t actually remember now).

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    These days games often allow you to individually change the difficulty which I make use quite often when I feel a game is becoming too much of a hassle than a joy and I still want to know how the story continues or see what might be coming.

    I don’t think I have used a classic cheat in a long time. The last time I actively remember was The Sims 3 (I guess) and it kind of killed the game for me because suddenly everything was possible without any challenge and even a normal playthrough felt like I was missing something.

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      I don’t think I have used a classic cheat in a long time. The last time I actively remember was The Sims 3 (I guess) and it kind of killed the game for me because suddenly everything was possible without any challenge and even a normal playthrough felt like I was missing something.

      totally had the same experience! for me it was jazz jackrabbit 2. I totally still remember some of the cheat codes.