• Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    How long until the forks get deprecated? Is that even a possibility? I don’t really know what goes into making this but I would imagine if it depends on some chunk of the mozilla source code, eventually it will be out of sync with the major releases or current browser standards. What does that mean for the TOR browser since its based on firefox right?

    I ask that as someone moving from firefox to libre/waterfox.

    • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      It’s a bit more complex than that. The straight forks are fine for now, but the real concern would be if Gecko gets changed significantly.

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          10 months ago

          Make sure you check the website that people link before downloading stuff–

          Zen is available for macOS, Windows, and Linux.

          It is not on mobile, so you might want to try some of the others listed in the thread

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            10 months ago

            Yeah sync between phone and desktop is important unfortunately because of about a billion cloud things I use for work

            • JayGray91🐉🍕@piefed.social
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              10 months ago

              Zen can still use Firefox sync to sync between desktop and mobile. Just have to use a firefox based mobile browser that didn’t cut out firefox sync. I’m personally use Waterfox on Android, and Zen on Windows. My plan to move to linux by buying a new 2TB SSD is kind of on hold for now…

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        10 months ago

        In my experience, Zen’s design and customization is really nice but it’s also extremely buggy. Maybe to be expected, as I think they are still in their alpha release.

        I was also concerned about maybe getting fingerprinted more easily since it’s a very niche browser.

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    10 months ago

    If they truly believe in their AI offerings, they should release them as an extension so users can choose to install them. You only bundle shit people don’t want. If it’s good, you distribute it stand-alone.

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    10 months ago

    Make sure you keep a list of all of these companies pushing ai bullshit. When the bubble pops, do not go back to them, do not give them anything, fuck them for being greedy idiots

    I will gladly support initiatives that are anti-ai.

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      10 months ago

      Not only the setting off, but any sort of behind the scenes stuff related to it disabled as well. No automatic updating, no background processes to “keep it ready, just in case”. Do that when it’s enabled.

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    10 months ago

    I said it before but they are really excelling at alienating their users in (failed) attempts at attracting new ones.

    It pains me to see, I don’t want to use chromium, but there is a limit…

  • termaxima@slrpnk.net
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    10 months ago

    But why !? Chatbots are useful enough, I don’t need AI anywhere else than when I explicitly choose to use it on my terms !

    You wanna make money ? Make a chatbot that lies less and/or doesn’t reinforce people into their delusions, or one that runs for cheaper, or both.

    AI is useful. Just like knives are useful. Doesn’t mean I want every object I own to also somehow be or contain multiple knives 😅

    More often than not, a faster horse is actually all we need.

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    10 months ago

    The AI browsers took my Arc they better leave my Zen Browser TF alone with these shenanigans.

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    10 months ago

    Hahaha fuck Firefox. Been saying it for years. Used to be the goat. Hasn’t been for a decade and a half.