Because everyone there uses the Internet?
Yeah not one soul uses the internet over there, but they’re doing it anyway just to shit on Verizon
I probably shouldn’t have posted it that way. I’ve been to Bejing, but I picture a lot of rural rice farmers just NOT part of the Internet and of course with censorship rampant, I just figure, why so fast? Sounds like flexing. But maybe I’m wrong.
They’re probably not building out 50 Gbps to the rice farmers
Even rice farmers watch Netflix.
640kb should be enough for anybody.
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Those will be some hot NICs.
Is there a community for that? Asking for a friend.
I’m not, I want to subscribe to this newsletter
Hot NICs in your .local
50gbps **shared line using passive optical splitters. Bit misleading there Chona, nobody is getting an actual 50gbps connection to their house.
“Chona”
Hahah.
Getting real tired of these „China is 30 years ahead of us“ clickbait headlines on an almost daily basis. They‘re always completely overblown and sadly really warp the public perception of the country and their government.
They’re over here talking about 50Gb XGS-PON for residential like anyone is actually going to use it. I bet their end users will still complain about slow speeds.
Its not that out of this world, though it is currently completely unneccessary. 10gb+ has been somewhat common residentially for years.
I’m sure the hardware for 50Gbps optics wouldn’t be cheap for the consumer 🤣
The “innovation” in the article is passive tech for fiber to the room (FTTR), specifically made to be low cost and easier to implement. It’s also how your computer might get that 50Gbit - it’ll have to be wired in with a fiber connection. It’s not happening over WiFi (or even Ethernet)
There is nothing preventing housing being built with it, so it’s still viable, if currently drastic overkill. Most end-users wont have fiber cards in PCs to begin with, but that isn’t insurmountable either.
(or even Ethernet)
Technically, those 100+ Gbps fiber LAN/WAN connections used in data centers are also Ethernet, just not twisted pair.
That said recently I was in a retail store and saw “Cat8” cables for sale that advertised support for 40 Gbps copper ethernet! I wonder if any hardware to support that will ever be released. It is a real standard, approved way back in 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Gigabit_Ethernet#40GBASE-T
Those cables are hard to terminate properly. There’s an outer grounding sheath that needs to be connected up at both ends. Except for short connections, I find it easier/cheaper to use fiber.
Enterprise adopted 100GbE networking around 2019. You can now buy used network cards for around $100 each.
Probably not where I am, that seems really low. I mean it depends if you use name brand or not. Often I don’t use the name brand ones 🤣
I just checked on eBay, and there are multiple listings for single port 100 GbE Mellanox (now nVidia) Connect-X 4 cards in the $60-100 range.
Most residential fiber globally currently is GPON with a 1-2 Gbps shared line using passive optical splitters, split up to 32 ways. Raising that shared line to 50 Gbps is a great upgrade.
It sounds like 50 gig PON is the next logical step. We’ve deployed XGSPON, which is 10x10 Gbps shared between whatever splitter you want to use(anywhere from like 8 way to 128, we generally use 32 way splitters), and we’re testing equipment that will supposedly be supported to 100Gbps PON. Things are moving quickly!
Chinese infrastructure developing is truly impressive. I guess that’s one benefit of being in an imperial dictatorship.
They are ostensibly a one party state, not a dictatorship. While Xi is the paramount leader, he claims he isn’t a dictator and I definitely believe him. Also it seems like he doesn’t have absolute control, but what do I know.
I think few people missed the sarcasm
They are ostensibly a one party state, not a dictatorship.
This sentence feels so Soviet.
Yeah, hate that the world views him as not a dictator, at least formally, but I don’t make the rules.
What do you think would happen if he started doing things the people able to recall him didn’t like?
It feels like they are using this presidency to get as far ahead as they can.
Not just this one. But I think you are overestimating such improvements over strategic ones that the US is still doing more. Say, Starlink really turning into some sort of planetary cell network.
So 50Gbps internet.
While us taxpayer and ISP consumer is getting fuck all for their taxes and fees
Parasites just looting.
AT&T still hasn’t installed fiber in my old neighborhood where one of their lines cuts straight through a row of houses that conveniently do get fiber, while everyone else is stuck on cable.
Did I mention they received billions in federal funding to upgrade everyone?
So they received money for something they didn’t do. They should pay those back.
But someone at AT&T would have to sell their yatch
That yacht is fine because someone else at AT&T rotated into a position at the FCC
American companies being welfare queens, imagine that.
We already have private 100gbps in Australia and our public network just trialled it last year so rollout is expected this year there as well.
Why is anyone celebrating 50gbps? I can’t imagine Australia is anywhere near leading here.
Come on mate, internet in Australia is pretty shit after the NBN fiasco. Let me know when any of those those 100gbps lines reach 1gbps xD.
The article you linked describes plans reaching up to 1000Mbps (1Gbps).
That’s only 2% of the speed of the theoretical 50Gbps maximum OP’s article discusses (and 10% of the 10Gbps real-world speeds currently available in China according to the same article). I think you have your units mixed up.
Let me know when any of those those 100gbps lines reach 1gbps xD.
It was in direct relation to 1gbps.
Then I guess it’s my bad thinking you were trying to show 100 gigabit plans
None of those plans actually do reach 1gbps though, you kinda proved their point with your link
Those plans do not reach 1gbps at 7pm when every family in the neighbourhood is online, that is to be expected.
Under ideal situations proximity and network congestion they are capable of hitting the full 1gbps.
Right, so your first mentioned 100gbps will reach what then, 2gbps?
Not sure if youre trolling or just really daft at this point.
I think you may be confused? 1Gbps is about as good as it gets in Australia.
You are the confused one mate.
The user that I gave the link showing our 1gbps plan commented as if we did not already have 1gbps, hence me showing them that we already have it.
The link was not in relation to 100gbps and was purely a response to the 1gbps comment.
This is for PON technology. 1 fibre can be split 32-ways to feed, you guessed it, 32 customers. 50g over a fibre that is split 32-ways with a minimum of 15db loss is impressive.
I guarantee those 100gbps circuits are a single fibre all the way from the provider to the customer. And they are expensive, very expensive.
I wonder if they use semiconductor optical amplifiers in the receivers, or if they can make do with avalanche photodiodes.
The 100G stuff I’m looking at has 18.5 dB budget with APDs, that seems rough considering you want a few kilometers of fiber, a few splices and a few connectors (probably LC/APC) as well.
I work on PON and XGPON. Officially we work on a -25dB maximum, but I’ve seen circuits stable at around 30dB.
It’s surprising how many bad splices you can ignore before it gets problematic.
-18.5dB is going to limit you to either a really good fibre path, or a really short one. Unless you have options with long-range SFPs? The constant progress keeps my job interesting at least.
This would be for a business, surely? I can’t imagine any individual having a use case for those speeds.
I can get 8 gigabit symmetrical if I want to, but I don’t.
It’s up to the ISPs what plans they sell. But cost wise it would be so prohibitive that only a business would buy it for the first few years for sure.
Not only that, but what’s the use case? Who on earth is slinging that much data around?
Small time server admins?
Who would have a server like that actually in their house?
Linus Tech Tips, a company that films multiple hours of 4k or higher content every day, which is uploaded to an offsite backup, as well as uploading edited videos to multiple platforms, made a big deal about having a 10 gigabit Internet connection.
LTT are also a bunch of loonie toon characters cosplaying as techies who lost all their data multiple times to malpractice. I’d hardly uplift them as a banner case.
I would rather have 50,000,000,000bps
Bigger Number = Better
The math is mathing correctly
Git outta here with that thar metric mumbo jumbo!
Man, real countries are doing this shit while the US is doing an illegal war on the thought crime of being"woke".
China has this covered hands down. If you say Winnie, two mean looking Chinese men appear behind you.
Yeah, one thing at a time
/s
Not just this, I’m not sure if they checked about LGBT rights in China.
From outside the first world Trump and his supporters look scandalist, loud, corrupt and incompetent. Which is sad. But they don’t seem fascist most of the time.
Anyway, if we take Putin, he’s done many things, one thing he’s consistently never done is say antisemitic or easily recognizable fascist things. There is some popularity of Ivan Ilyin around him, who is a Russian emigrant fascist philosopher, though (who apparently wanted to fix problems with Mussolini and the own such “thinkers” of the White movement, except he was on the dumber side, so compared to his writings Mein Kampf seems intellectually elegant).
Even the most evil people can have good moments and we can appreciate those without changing outlet overall opinion.
I’m still waiting for Trump’s good moment
My point was - people may have consistency in words and actions, but not between words and actions.
‘quietly’
Very cool and they should keep doing this, but no one’s CPE is going to be able to do anywhere near this speed unless they plan on giving everyone large enterprises routers for home use.
What would anyone need 50Gb for?
Like seriously, what would that get you what you can’t do now?
My local Network adapter isn’t half that fast
That’s the thing, it’s hard to imagine what we’ll use it for until it’s available.
BRB moving to China
KC starts the beta for 50gig next month.
High speed internet behind the Great Firewall sounds wonderful. It would be like rapid public transit behind the iron curtain. You can go quickly and conveniently to any dim, depressing place we let you go.
Do you really believe everything in the USSR was dim and depressing? Do you also think everything is Mexico is tinted yellow?
