Remember you’re only speaking for yourself there, so be careful that you don’t encourage it done to others who may not be happy to and just want to stop being othered.
At what point do we draw the line? If I ask you a question and you don’t want to talk about it you have every right to refuse to answer, but I think it’s okay to ask.
I mean, if someone asks a polite question, the other person can just as politely say “I’d rather not talk about that”, and then everyone goes along with their day
I mean, someone can just go on YT and find the answer from someone happily discussing it. That way if the person was going to be upset by being asked they wouldn’t, and you found your information. And then everyone goes along with their day.
It’s really the best of both worlds, I don’t see how there is such strong pushback to such basic respect.
I would find it less respectful for someone to assume things about me based on what they see on social media. If their question is polite and born out of genuine curiosity, and they don’t react poorly to hearing “I don’t want to talk about that right now”, I would much rather someone ask me a question directly.
I honestly find it a little baffling to think that we should try to avoid talking to people that are different than us and learning about their experiences, in the name of “respect”.
I think the biggest issue is that you’ve assumed everyone is the same and wants to be treated the same.
The world isn’t black and white. People are telling you their personal preferences and you’re telling them that they’re wrong.
You’re fighting other people’s battles for them even when they’re telling you that they’d prefer you not to - you’re literally acting like the guy in the last panel.
If there’s anything that we’ve learned over the last horrible year it’s that getting all of your information off social media is a recipe for disaster.
I’m not a visible minority, but this is what I have come to learn after listening to an amazing Aboriginal woman’s talk at a conference years ago.
If you are genuinely curious, there are so many resources out there to learn about others experiences and appropriate venues to ask them questions.
You don’t know what way people on the street are going to receive your request/burden for them to exert their time and effort to educate you on, so just don’t. You don’t know how upsetting it may be to constantly be sought out and othered.
So if you don’t know, don’t do it. Find an appropriate way to learn.
Asking people their personal experience is the most appropriate way to learn about things outside your own experience.
Yeah, some people don’t want to share. Those people can say that. When everyone uses their words instead of making assumptions about what people do and don’t want, the world is a better place.
It’s interesting that you say specifically, “sought out and othered”, because I think that without the experience of being not just a minority but discriminated against, this just wouldn’t even come up. I’ve had so many conversations with people from different cultures where we told each other about various traditions, foods and all sorts. It’s the most natural conversation in the world when in mixed company. But there is no tinge of prejudice in the experiences I am thinking of.
You don’t know how a person on the street or anywhere else will respond to ANY interaction. By this logic we just shouldn’t talk to one another.
We ALL get it. You’re burned out. Take a seat champ. You’re also alone in your thinking here and trying to force others to commit to saying fuck off to any who want to genuinely learn and maybe help our communities.
The whole “I’m not your Google” shtick has done more to harm marginalized communities and minorities than it’s helped. People who are “ally-curious” often are afraid to expand their knowledge by asking first hand experiences. So they go and Google shit. And then they come to their own conclusions and are subsequently shit on by people in the very community they support because they’re accused of assuming one’s experience.
I’m trans in a small town of about 7k. I can say with certainty that my openness to have respectful conversations about it when asked has improved things overall. If I had taken the stance presented here, the first, and likely ONLY first hand conversation with a trans person these people would ever have would have been a negative one and therefor painted us ALL negatively.
Just get back to having open, honest fucking conversations people.
Nah fuck this shit, if you have a question for me then ask it. You will never learn anything if you don’t seek knowledge.
The last panel is fucked though, don’t go putting your hands on people.
Remember you’re only speaking for yourself there, so be careful that you don’t encourage it done to others who may not be happy to and just want to stop being othered.
At what point do we draw the line? If I ask you a question and you don’t want to talk about it you have every right to refuse to answer, but I think it’s okay to ask.
Do you randomly bother strangers with deep, possibly upsetting:triggering questions?
That’s the line. Treat them like anyone else you see on the street.
I mean, if someone asks a polite question, the other person can just as politely say “I’d rather not talk about that”, and then everyone goes along with their day
I mean, someone can just go on YT and find the answer from someone happily discussing it. That way if the person was going to be upset by being asked they wouldn’t, and you found your information. And then everyone goes along with their day.
It’s really the best of both worlds, I don’t see how there is such strong pushback to such basic respect.
WWWWW, the same YouTube destroying public knowledge with slop. The same YouTube enabling nazis. The same Youtube caught predating on children.
Just tell people to kill themselves, far easier and precise.
flashbacks to troll levels in Mario Maker
I would find it less respectful for someone to assume things about me based on what they see on social media. If their question is polite and born out of genuine curiosity, and they don’t react poorly to hearing “I don’t want to talk about that right now”, I would much rather someone ask me a question directly.
I honestly find it a little baffling to think that we should try to avoid talking to people that are different than us and learning about their experiences, in the name of “respect”.
I think the biggest issue is that you’ve assumed everyone is the same and wants to be treated the same.
The world isn’t black and white. People are telling you their personal preferences and you’re telling them that they’re wrong.
You’re fighting other people’s battles for them even when they’re telling you that they’d prefer you not to - you’re literally acting like the guy in the last panel.
If there’s anything that we’ve learned over the last horrible year it’s that getting all of your information off social media is a recipe for disaster.
By that logic this comic is wrong.
At which part of the comic are you speaking for yourself?
The part where you are a brown male wheelchair rider, the part where you are a muslim woman or the part where you are a white blind man?
If you want to speak for yourself, please speak for yourself and not for everyone else.
I’m not a visible minority, but this is what I have come to learn after listening to an amazing Aboriginal woman’s talk at a conference years ago.
If you are genuinely curious, there are so many resources out there to learn about others experiences and appropriate venues to ask them questions.
You don’t know what way people on the street are going to receive your request/burden for them to exert their time and effort to educate you on, so just don’t. You don’t know how upsetting it may be to constantly be sought out and othered.
So if you don’t know, don’t do it. Find an appropriate way to learn.
Asking people their personal experience is the most appropriate way to learn about things outside your own experience.
Yeah, some people don’t want to share. Those people can say that. When everyone uses their words instead of making assumptions about what people do and don’t want, the world is a better place.
It’s interesting that you say specifically, “sought out and othered”, because I think that without the experience of being not just a minority but discriminated against, this just wouldn’t even come up. I’ve had so many conversations with people from different cultures where we told each other about various traditions, foods and all sorts. It’s the most natural conversation in the world when in mixed company. But there is no tinge of prejudice in the experiences I am thinking of.
You don’t know how a person on the street or anywhere else will respond to ANY interaction. By this logic we just shouldn’t talk to one another.
We ALL get it. You’re burned out. Take a seat champ. You’re also alone in your thinking here and trying to force others to commit to saying fuck off to any who want to genuinely learn and maybe help our communities.
Smfh
Ok, so you took it upon yourself to speak for groups of people that YOU DO NOT BELONG TO, because why exactly?
Because they think they are to weak to speek for themselves?
Because you think you need to force your help upon them?
You are exactly the guy “helping” the blind person in the third panel. Dude, really, get a grip. That behaviour is not ok.
Completely agree, this just promotes silos between cultures/people and more misunderstandings.
If someone tells you they don’t want to be bothered then of course leave them alone, but you can’t know that without approaching them first.
Don’t agree with the message in this comic at all.
I have learned so much by just asking, Most people are more than happy to talk about themselves as long as you are respectful.
2946292946% THIS!
The whole “I’m not your Google” shtick has done more to harm marginalized communities and minorities than it’s helped. People who are “ally-curious” often are afraid to expand their knowledge by asking first hand experiences. So they go and Google shit. And then they come to their own conclusions and are subsequently shit on by people in the very community they support because they’re accused of assuming one’s experience.
I’m trans in a small town of about 7k. I can say with certainty that my openness to have respectful conversations about it when asked has improved things overall. If I had taken the stance presented here, the first, and likely ONLY first hand conversation with a trans person these people would ever have would have been a negative one and therefor painted us ALL negatively.
Just get back to having open, honest fucking conversations people.
Fuck. Just… FUCK. This just pisses me off.
Ok. Deeeeeep breaths.