I suspect that it’s always been the case that bigger customers are able to negotiate better prices. 1 car a year vs 1000 cars a year? 200 pounds of bread a year vs. 200 tons of bread?
Big customers lock in deals for a fixed price of Y for X years.
Smaller customers can also get similar deals but retail customers (normal people) rarely can lock prices for more than 1 year. Most pay spot prices.
Huh? I’ve shopped power companies a lot and I’ve never seen one that didn’t offer a 3 year fixed rate.
That kind of choice is quite unusual in the US.
Also, isn’t a steady state power consumption of a data centre easier to manage than homes flipping toasters on and off? I suppose that the inefficiency drives up the costs for home usage
Civilian bills increase while corporate discounts abound? Ya’ll need to fuck someone up with the 2A.
The idiots are convinced they’ll “be one of them someday”
Cue the “Fry, you arent rich!” Scene. Its very very real.
I have a friend that literally blames all problems in America on “The Poors” (his words) and when I try to tell him he IS the poors and is nowhere near rich, he doesn’t listen. Doesn’t believe workers should own the means of production because “when he owns HIS business, he wants to keep his money HE earned”
Brainwashed idiocy.
He rents, has a 20 year old car, is a bartender, and shops at Walmart exclusively. Also loves Grok.
America is doomed.
Always loved that Futurama scene, for the way it’s perfectly in line with Fry’s character and his amazingly broken reasoning facilities, while also just directly pointing out the bitter hatred of self, as a class, this kind of thinking always entails.
The working class get the ‘get fucked’ tax on top of the costs. Companies get cheap power to make more money.
I’d like to see this graph with the EU power costs. I pay AVG € 0,27 per kWh now. Used to be € 0,20 before the attack on Ukraine began. That’s a 35% increase.
It’s what the maga working class voted for. That, and cruel deportations.
You think fucking over the working class is MAGA specific? Fucking us over is 100% bipartisan.
Scratch a both sideser, find Russian agitprop. Every goddamn time.
That’s cute when liberals try to co-opt phrases they don’t know how to use.
Are Russians in the room with you right now?
No but they are all over your comments, it’s like you work for RT or something. You sure do repeat basically all their points ad nauseum.
Liberals conflate everything that conflicts with the echo chamber as Russian
What? I pay around ninety cents! What is this shit.
My electric bill last month would have been $1,700 at that rate. We would just have to freeze to death.
Damn I pay around 7c + 3€ static fee
Its 30c + 12€ in southern Germany
Indiana price increase in 2025 ~20% (I believe the new rates went into effect in November, and this does not include a base increase for having your house connected to the grid. I believe it was $10/mo increase making that % even larger.
The AI data centers and crypto miners should be paying much higher rates than everyone else.
That’s not how capitalism works.
Privatize the profits, socialize the costs
2024 and 2025 not included in their data.
How to pin someone else’s comment?
The star will save it so you can easily read it later. Click your profile name, and its the “saved” tab.
I got a bunch of effortposts from other lemminators saved for rereading.
come on Muricans, stop complaining and get a third job to pay for the slop machine until the bubble burst and the youehave to pay for the bailout
stop complaining, remember “you are not there yet”
just sayin’ this is still so incredibly cheap… 8c/kwh… australian electricity prices are 24-43c/kwh (obv usd vs aud but the aussie $ isn’t that weak)
yeah we have a “supply charge” that’s ~$1/day on top of that base rate too, so roughly the same situation :(
we’ve got this crap because of privatisation so it’s not likely to change any time soon.
i hope your energy prices come down when energy things stabilise in europe!
Here’s the crux of the article for you.
In just two years, starting in 2022, residential electricity prices rose by 10%, while commercial prices increased by only 3%, and industrial electricity prices fell by 2%.
Even if you don’t like or use ai, you’re forced to pay for it
But why is it this way? Why wouldn’t they want to charge both groups more for a higher profit margin?
It’s easier to screw over consumers than businesses.
Busunesses like to complain. They have long-term contracts. They have a lot of purchase power. They’re more likely tp swotch to a competitor. When they threaten, they’re more likely to go through with the threats since they have both money to burn and employees to blackmail with pay cuts.
Among other things.
There’s a lot of consumers, so those that do jump ship usually don’t cause a big dent in profits when they do. Consumers are also less likely to jump ship in the furst place since they have only their extended family and their family lawyer to look out for them (if). They usually have “bigger” problems than the electricity bill: car payments, mortgages, school bills, you name it.
Again, among other things.
Wouldn’t want to upset corporate overlords.
Partly because doing so risks that they might decide to invest in their own production instead, and therefore not buy any electricity from you at all which would result in loss of demand, and a reduction in overall electricity cost.
Like how rising a bus ticket fare by 10% means you will lose some customers because they decide to walk instead, so your profit increase will be lower than that 10%. Raise it too much, and almost everyone walks, and you sell no tickets.And it’s a lot harder to build your own solar or wind farm if you are a person living in an apartment building.
I don’t get it either. Electricity providers have a monopoly based on location. It’s not like I get to choose whose wires I want to hook up to, there’s one choice. So why would the power company choose to give anyone a deal? I get that during the planning stage they could be courting various locations but still I don’t really get it.
The company that maintains the lines is typically not the same company that generates the power. That’s why you can shop for electricity providers.
Who can ship for electricity?
I have literally never heard of this anywhere.
It’s like Internet. You get one provider who puts wires up to your home. That’s it. Don’t like it? Good luck physically moving your home elsewhere.
Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Texas all have deregulated markets which allow for it.
California, Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, and Virginia have partially deregulated markets.
It’s almost that time of the year when NY electric rates get hiked up and then get “frozen” to avoid further rate hikes while you conveniently get locked into that higher rate.
This shit is a failure of local and state governments, and the people who elect them. Now that AI costs are hitting citizen pocket books, many municipalities are fighting back.
“All politics is local.”
In particular, its a failure of state utilities commissions, which have power over electric pricing.
Don’t know about your jurisdiction, but we vote those people in and out around here. Well…
We used to have a quasi-private/public power company. County commissioners voted us out of that. (Still our fault.) We do still have such a water setup. For now.
Someone has to pay the billionare’s bills
The lowest rate I can find here in Texas was triple what I was paying last year.
God don’t I know it. Looking at 500 dollar a month electric bills and I’m possibly disconnecting my heat pump.
Where are you? That’s what I pay a year, granted I live in a shoebox.
Under the boot of Georgia power.
Well I’m sure you’ll be heating your place with Venezula heavy sour by next week!
ok damnit, how many more servers do i need to install…
