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It never ends and it doesn’t get better with age. Aging sucks and the endless drudgery of the useless activities like work just wears on you, and when that fat, bloated, bald creep looks back at you in the mirror and you wonder what the fuck is going on, you wonder what a .45 feels like at the back of your throat.
I wake up every morning with a knot in my stomach and I need to yell for about ten minutes about how sick and fucking tired I am of all this endless useless crap.
you wonder what a .45 feels like at the back of your throat.
c/the_pack APPROVES THIS MESSAGE!!! AWWOOOOOOOOO
Maybe a suicide prevention image shouldn’t have made ‘being a skeleton’ look like quite that fun idk
And I didn’t know how to play the guitar before! Awesome!
“We all shred down here. You’ll shred, too!”
Friend, adulting can suck for sure and you’re not alone in thinking so, but if you’re experiencing suicidal ideation you might need to talk to someone professional. I hope things end up okay. Let me know if I can help.
Yes, a professional will know how to hold a 1911A1 the wrong way and engage the grip safety. Good idea!
I suspect you’ve deliberately misinterpreted my missive.
But I still want you to be well.
Bruh I think of suicide on a daily level. I don’t do it, but I think about it. Honestly the basic things of modern life get me more than things that most people would expect. My jeep has been dinging because it eats oil. But it’s at that level in-between the problem levels. So it senses the oil level is low, and if it were really low, it’d ding 3x and stop. But it is somewhere in-between so it’ll ding 1-3 times, then cut off. But then it goes off again and it’ll ding another 1-3 times. But then it senses oil again, and I shift gears and it’ll ding again for one to three times. Just be below the level for fucks sake! That dinging is enough for me to want to kill myself. Id love to have a more valid reason, but the little things set me off more than anything.
Hmm. Can you drive over me before the check engine lights up?
You might need a new vehicle.
But you shouldn’t be considering suicide regularly. It’s not a personal failing, just an indication that you need help.
I’m not a professional, but if you want to reach out, I’m a safe recipient. If you want to talk to a professional, there are resources.
Please don’t end yourself. Especially not because of your jeep. I’m certain the world is better with you in it.
It’s not like that. I never seriously consider it. But I think about it. It’s hard to explain, but I’m not at risk and I appreciate your concern. But for real, I’m not at risk. I’m just… Off. I’m more likely to consider it in a long line than anything really serious. Bureaucracy is more likely to make me consider it than any real life issues. Like fuck me, I have to go to the DMV? It’s more like just being sick of dealing with unnecessary bullshit.
This sounds like passive suicidal ideation: something that’s always there in the back of the mind, but not about to be actively acted on. To quote Anna Borges:
I don’t always want to be alive. Yes, I mean it. No, you shouldn’t be afraid for me. No, I’m not in danger of killing myself right now. Yes, I really mean it. How do you explain that?
I keep her article in my bookmarks, and re-read now and then: https://theoutline.com/post/7267/living-with-passive-suicidal-ideation
You don’t have to defend yourself if you’re hurting. Even if you did … I get hating bureaucracy.
It’s just like God damnit, another speed bump, another needless bullshit hoop to jump through. So it’s more of just being over the bullshit than actually being suicidal. I appreciate the concern, but it’s more like me just being sick of the bullshit.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I’d love to hear of anything good you’ve got going on, though. Probably it’s not productive to carry on this thread with negativity but I’m also fully open to private messaging if you want to send complaints to me.
But positivity does seem likely to be more fun.
I heard an interview with a woman who tried to commit suicide. She was having lots of suicidal thoughts without actually planning to do anything, like you are. But, one day something happened and suddenly she decided that was it. I think she took a lethal dose of pills and she was just lucky someone happened to find her before it was too late. I think that’s a very common sequence of events.
She now really regrets trying to do that and works to try to prevent other people from committing suicide.
I’ve also been there, thinking about it without actually ever planning to… I regret not getting therapy sooner.
My point is this is actually serious and therapy may help you enjoy life more. What’s the point in living if you’re not enjoying it? Why not do what you can to make it more enjoyable? And maybe it would prevent you from doing something really regrettable.
I think you should at least call a hotline and explain your feelings to someone who knows about this stuff professionally. I’ve heard they get a lot of calls that are much less important and they’re still happy to help.
But hey, we created this bureaucracy thing to put hurdles in your way, so uhh enjoy that. Why did we do it? Meh, don’t worry about it.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Fuckity cunt, lickety clit screw this god damn censorship shit.
Rat shit bat shit, dirty old twat: 29 ass holes tied in a knot!
Do you pronounce twat with a British accent to make it rhyme better?
Indeed! Twat is such a versatile word.
While this is an issue everywhere, America dials it up to 11 by making you deal with all sorts of overcomplicated nonsense.
Healthcare in the US:
- Annual Prep: Open enrollment
- Figure out what HMO, PPO and HDCP means, and what it means to you (which one is better depends on both your needs, your job. And also your spouse’s job, so good luck coasting on knowledge from last year
- Figure out what to do with HSA and/or the various FSAs, requires mapping out what you’re expecting to happen with your health, childcare and elderly care that year
- If your chest hurts and you’re worried:
- Go to the ER (not urgent care, they’ll forward you to the ER even if you seem fine)
- Get lots of unnecessary care (like three EKGs, a chest X-ray and some blood work) before they conclude you’re just stressed from living in America
- Receive five different bills several weeks later
- Keep those in mind for another week or two until your health insurance sends their version of events
- Receive the explanation of benefits, which does not match the bills
- Call both the provider and your insurance a few times to figure out what’s going on, because of course you have to mediate between them (they don’t talk to each other)
- After thinking about these bills every day for about three months, you can finally pay them and be done with it
Healthcare in Norway:
- Annual Prep: None
- If your chest hurts and you’re worried:
- Get a same-day emergency appointment at your doctor or call an ambulance, depending on how worried you are
- They listen to you with a stethoscope and maybe do an EKG, conclude you’re fine
- You pay your copay on the way out, and never think about it again
After thinking about these bills every day for about three months, you can finally pay them and be done with it
Oh your not done with it. In almost all cases you’ll get another bill in 6 months to a year later that’s a mistake but you have to call to correct the error.
Here’s a thirty minute video for anyone struggling with those first couple bullets!
Oh, I knew it would be BDG. It’s fascinating how nicely he managed to put all that
Right? It’s insanely well done. I’ve showed that video to my mom who’s worked in the health care/insurance industry for multiple decades, and she had no notes
In Germany you wouldn’t have to pay for any of it, you go to ER or call an ambulance, they help you, you’re done.
- Annual Prep: Open enrollment
So glad they censored fre*king. I almost had to read a minced oath.
I’m more concerned about the “barn out”
I’m just glad they censored
Trigger warning: non federated platform
/r/AskReddit
NSFL tag please.
Seriously, so fucking gross
They also censored the names of the pseudonyms on a public website.
gasp! such language! burn!? as in burning!? for shame!
Should have said flame instead.
Thanks for sharing. I appreciate the decensoring effort. Hang in there.
It says freaking, not fucking
It’s “barn”, not “burn”
But why did you leave the subreddit and usernames censored
•o••a•• ••o, that’s ••a•y
SHIELD YOUR EYES
goddamn bro, that’s crazy
(I’m not trying to format all the escapes needed for that many asterisks, lol)
why did they self censor “burn”?
To my knowledge, it’s because advertisers don’t want to be displayed next to potentially negative posts.
That then means that commercial social media platforms would rather display posts for which they get paid. So, potentially negative posts get downranked by the content curation algorithm to the point where they will be seen by virtually no one.
And that then means that users self-censor, and also potentially overdo it, because they don’t know for certain which words will get punished.
This is similar to the phenomenon known as algospeak, where words such as “unalive” are used: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algospeak
Yet they are fine with being seen next to Nazi propaganda.
I fucking hate goddamned social fucking media.
Fuck advertisers.
i wish reaction to that would be that users go to use some other service instead
And “freaking”
that is at least kind of understandable. but if one thinks “Burn” is bad word, why stop there :D should censor also adult and problem, maybe also endless, never and no too since those could potentialy also have negative connotations which seems to be big no no. oh and also laundry since moneylaundring is a thing.
and “adult” clearly means porn, and “ends” clearly refers to murder or suicide 🙃
gaaaaaasp plz tw c*nsorship
Engagement bait
Smashmouth tried to warn us. The years keep coming and they do not stop coming.
They literally teach you this in highschool science. They teach you that the universe is a dynamic system driven by entropy. They teach you that equilibrium, i.e. a state of stability in a dynamic system, is achieved when the rate of structural formation equals the rate of destruction, e.g. bonds forming/breaking, population birth/death, organizing/disorganizing one’s room… Managing while not burning out is stability.
The classic question of “when would any of this be applicable in the real world” is intended to be a critique of how school curriculums can be dated or out of touch with chages in how the world works. It also highlights the often understated goal of a good education–shaping students into people who have the fundamental tools and the mindset to actively answer that crucial question for themselves.
The one thing I realize about these ToDO lists, is that they are written by others for you. Designed perfectly to exploit and trap the average person, until their life passes.
It’s hard to pivot, if you are already in a wage-slave job, it is a trap. However, if you can eliminate your dependencies, say no to people who drain you, and create just enough room to find another job, you can finally start living.
Have we really reached a point where censoring “Burn out” is necessary?
They censored AskReddit. There’s no logic here.
The only thing there that should be censored. Fuck r*ddit.
And freaking freaking. The self censorship is at the point where even the self-censor words are being self-censored
Edit: actually just realised it’s probably interaction bait which I fell for
As long as you don’t upvote it doesn’t matter the post won’t be bumped higher in the feed from just comments alone.
At this point I think that any censorship is a type of “engagement”.
“if you wanna make clicks, censor some words!”
Can’t have the oligarchs letting us talk about burning things in our ad infested gardens.
Honestly, the “it never ends” part is real — the best hack I’ve found is separating daily maintenance from actual projects so you don’t feel like you’re failing at life every time you do laundry. Also: future-you deserves a day off too.
yeah, I sometimes thank past me when I don’t have to deal with hassle avoided by my past actions (even if it’s mundane stuff like washing the dishes yesterday xd)
Okay, I’ll bite: what SMS is this screenshot being posted to where “freaking” and “burn” are deemed necessary to “censor”? Y’know, so I can avoid even accidentally going on it.
as others have said, it’s a trick for engagement.
I’ll engage with the post. By downvoting.
Dammit, now why didn’t I think of that before. Thanks.
Our lives wouldn’t be so complicated if we had financial freedom via a UBI and didn’t have that metaphorical gun put to our heads to make us keep working forever.
Most animals do very little every day, humans are one of the only animals to have no resource scarcity but still work ourselves into an early grave from stress.
Uhm. Most animals live by the grace of chance and circumstance. Barely getting enough to sustain life.
I think understand what you’re trying to say, but you can’t seriously think that pre-industrial age people were sitting around and doing nothing? Post-industrial age came with an explosion of people to match the new amount of resources. If we don’t produce the resources then people die.
Do you want a simpler life or an easier life? Those are two very different things.
There are theories that hunter-gatherers worked significantly less. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_affluent_society
I’m all for testing 6 hour work days.
But the fantasy of universal income is too farfetched. Who will produce the food? Are we to collectively agree that we take turns on producing the food? I sure as hell don’t want that, and there lies the core issue. How do you force people to do things that they don’t want to do?
Why the hell do you immediately think of slavery? You don’t force people to do anything. If you need work done, you pay people to do it. Obviously.
And since workers have a guaranteed income to fall back upon, employers have no choice but to pay a fair wage. That’s the entire point.
Seriously, if you want to understand UBI, there are whole studies available online for your reading pleasure. There are dozens of books on the subject. Your question isn’t mysterious or insurmountable, but worse, it’s not even insightful. It reveals that you’ve never given it the slightest consideration or study. Do some work. You were down voted because you’re so wildly off-base as to not even be wrong.
Since you brought it up though, what do you think our current society intends to do with us besides slavery and genocide? And how do you propose to stop it?
Why the hell do you immediately think of slavery? You don’t force people to do anything. If you need work done, you pay people to do it. Obviously.
So just capitalism then. But with extra steps.
And since workers have a guaranteed income to fall back upon, employers have no choice but to pay a fair wage. That’s the entire point.
No…? The ones that work to produce would control the supply and the prices would reflect it. Kind of like that other system that starts with c.
Seriously, if you want to understand UBI, there are whole studies available online for your reading pleasure. There are dozens of books on the subject.
I’ve read plenty of articles about it, not sold on it. Was curious if anyone had any way to sell it. You just present it as capitalism, which i suppose is one way to do it. Though I would argue that people would stop doing necessary jobs, since they no longer need to work.
Capitalism is when a small amount of people own the means of production while doing no work and profiting off the labor of many. It isn’t when people buy and sell and work for money.
When you suggest that people must be forced to work, it demonstrates you don’t understand it at all.
UBI simply puts power back where it belongs, in the hands of the workers.
capitalism is when a small amount of people own the means of production.
Wrong. That would be oligarchy. But i can tell that you are confused since you present UBI as capitalism without even realizing it.
underrated comment.
The post above yours would make more sense if we had reached a Star Trek level of future where the baseline population is educated enough to know what’s best for them and their own rights.
Unfortunately we are so very far away from it, sigh
Adult life is a rollercoaster of shutting down and burning out.
Compare your life to that of a caveman: constantly watching out for predators, fire risks, intrusive insects, maintaining an insufficient shelter, tanning and hiding your clothing out of necessity, sleeping fretfully, and of course spending a good portion of your day scrounging for food whilst keeping the kids alive.
Our ADHD brains were in overdrive much of our history to cope with the dangers and stress of living.
Nowadays we have systematic soceital dangers to focus on, but we forget that our minds are far less distracted by real threats, and so we seek arbitrary topics to hyperfixate upon
Just breathe, write lists, you got this.
Compare your life to that of a caveman
Whataboutism
Nowadays we have systematic soceital dangers to focus on, but we forget that our minds are far less distracted by real threats
This implies that the systematic societal dangers aren’t real threats, which they most certainly are
Of course, but they’re barely something you can actually do anything about other than protest and voting. Do those two things, and then make peace with your day
Our ADHD brains
Just breathe, write lists
OH MY GOD, how did I never think of this?!?!? This is going to absolutely turn my life around, this is such an amazing day!
Do you also tell people in wheelchairs to “just stand up,” or people with dyslexia to “just read what’s on the paper?”
I may forget to check my lists but I at least I have them for when I remember
Baby steps. They don’t have to be organized lists, there’s no need to overthink it – write emails to yourself, send TODO messages over Whatsapp to yourself – be as chaotic and inefficient as you like in the process of writing said lists, and don’t worry about the perfection.
Wheelchair users can get around without standing up, and dyslexic people can read and write at their own pace
Okay but who’s gonna do the reading of said lists? Because I never see them again after writing. It doesn’t even occur to me that I’d written a list.
Well I’ve come to realise that it’s not the list itself really that helps you accomplish the task, it’s the writing of it.
That momentary 10 second concentration of writing said thing down on paper or on your phone is often enough for it to linger just behind your frontal lobe long enough to prompt you to do it sometime in the next few hours or day.
Dunno, try it, see how you fare
Well from my point of view if I’m not making a good list I may as well not be making a list
More unwanted advice: do not let your perfectionism stand in the way of your progress
It would only be like your examples if they said to keep everything in your head. Using lists are one way people with adhd can help themselves, because now you have a list to go back to.
But please, go off.
If I had a dollar for every time someone suggested a planner to fix my executive dysfunction - which has virtually nothing to do with not knowing what I should be doing - then I would be able to afford my ADHD medication.
But please, go off on disorders you clearly don’t understand.
every time someone suggested a planner to fix my executive dysfunction
Interesting how that’s not what I or the other person commented.
Is a planner not where most people construct their daily lists and otherwise plan their approaches to upcoming events? It’s not a stretch to say that using a planner involves… Making lists? Daily?
I did not suggest that a planner or list would fix their executive dysfunction. I suggested that their analogy, telling a person in a wheelchair to just stand up and telling people with dyslexia just read what’s on the paper, isn’t the same as what the other person was saying. Making lists is a thing that “can” help people with ADHD (I even put can in bold back in that other comment). I did not say, Ledivin, YOUR life would be solved if you just made lists. To your other point on this thread, I’m also not telling people to smile to cure their depression. I bet it feels like that for you both often and I understand the frustration that comes with that but that was not coming from either of us, that’s (probably) coming from your past interactions with others.
That other comment (not mine, I was being snarky with my “go off” bit so I reasonably expected the response I got) was just some words of encouragement and a small generalized suggestion. Nothing more than a “keep your head up” type thing, at least that’s how I read it.
telling a person in a wheelchair to just stand up and telling people with dyslexia just read what’s on the paper
Have you ever considered that there are actually cases where people in wheelchairs regain partial motor function in their legs by going through rigorous physical therapy and training the muscles to bear weight again? It’s on the less common side, but it applies to some folks.
Additionally, a good portion of children with dyslexia grow out of it as their ability to process text develops over time, through constant reading.
I know these situations are much larger in magnitude, but can’t you see how a solution for some is not a good suggestion for others? If I told someone with dyslexia to read more, odds are they will be irritated, even if it might be their solution.
Suggesting a list for those with executive dysfunction may be a reasonable thing, objectively, but it can come off as uninvolved or ignorant for someone who has tried to utilize lists hundreds (if not thousands) of times in their life. I think it would be better received if you suggested writing one or two tasks down at a time, at least. A list of two items is hardly a list and is more approachable, and if it doesn’t work for someone then it doesn’t feel like much of a commitment/time waste.
I get that the hostile responses feel bad… But wouldn’t you also feel bad if you were struggling with anxiety and someone told you to “just relax”? At the very least they should suggest a means to relax and not just… Tell you to.
Have some empathy for the frustrated and suggest a means of setting and working towards goals without downright suggesting a list, maybe.
I’m in the same boat. I tried it all, enthusiastically. It helped me only a slight amount, and it often felt like I was being told that smiling helps cure depression 😎 fucking awesome thanks
