Canada and Mexico should make a mutual defense pact. Being pinched by land wars would make things much rougher for the US.
Truth. We’d have a war on two fronts without ever leaving home.
It would be suicidal
As a Canadian sure, but even together we’d be fucked. Europe is our main hope.
Europe, and if you get Australia and New Zealand involved, you win for sure.
They’re definitely invited to my imaginary post-NATO alliance, but I’m curious, why do you bring it up?
The Pacific. Europe isn’t much help there.
Also, New Zealand special forces are very highly regarded.
Mostly dependent on how much public attention there currently is on him being a confirmed pedophile.
Wouldn’t NATO defend against the US invading Canada so US would have to fight against themselves.
Cute of you to think the US still respects any laws.
The USA is becoming an enemy of NATO and would sooner attack its traditional allies than defend them. And it’s looking like the rest of NATO may just chicken out if the USA attacks a NATO member state. We really need a new defensive pact between Europe and other countries in the Americas, particularly Mexico and Canada, independent of the USA. But the USA is aggressive and militarily stronger, so it’s a bad situation.
It was a pact made with the devil from the start. This is what happens when the USA gets constantly sucked up to because they are the “powerhouse” of the world. The problems where already obvious due to the flawed way everything is centralized towards this country.
As the point stands, the leaders of other countries are to scared to stand their ground against fascist trump. Of course this may change, but the thing is; signs of inadequacy where there from early on, it’s just that only a select few really seemed to care about it.
No. Like the dutch peacekeepers in Albania more like it. The US is Nato.
I wouldn’t run it past Trump; the guy is mentally unstable and a psychopath.
… and the American people are feckless sheep
PS: although I must recognize that, since the murder of Renee Good, it does seem that some are waking up
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I think it shows a strange effect about American geography. It’s really hard to organize a meaningful, resilient, and camera-worthy resistance because we’re so spread out. It’s all about congregating at big cities, like LA, Portland or Minneapolis.
Like, if British people wanted to protest and resist in the streets, they go to London. All of them. It’s accessible. Americans can’t do that with Washington DC.
But I’m in Kansas City, and while our No Kings protests have had not-insignificant turnouts, it’s not as easy or impactful because we had three protest cities across two-state suburban area. Can we get that many Kansas Citians to flock to Minneapolis to disrupt ICE ops? No, not really. It’s why all the major protest and ICE disruptions happen in the biggest cities of the “blue”-est states.
It’s also winter in Minneapolis, it’d be like Europeans traveling to Norway to protest. America us a lot bigger than any single European country.
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I mean, did the Jan 6 riots accomplish anything?
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Discrediting the rule of law, as proven by Merrick Garland and the apathy by Biden.
I am impressed at the amount of downvotes. The US had crossed several thresholds now which would’ve (and should’ve) caused Civil wars a while ago or in other countries.
Downvoting the post above confirms it has not yet been understood where the US now stands.
And so are Canadians… yikes
Since Good’s murder, I am finally starting to have hope of a successful American Revolution
Parts of it, certainly.
Only a third? “Believe may” is a very low bar. It’s like people who have “considered leaving” their job on the past year, because if you ever had a passing thought like “it might be nice to work there” you fall into that category.
What I’m saying is that this poll is useless and the article is a non-story.
You’re wrong saying that it’s a non-story. If you’d asked the question ten years ago, it wouldn’t be a third. The news is that this possibility has been born. That’s big news.
The movie Meet The Robinsons came out in 2007 and takes place in 2037. In that movie, Canada is called North Montana. I remember telling my sister about it and her saying that was ridiculous because there was basically zero chance Canada and the US would go to war within 30 years. It was seemingly completely unfeasible. Now it seems like a real possibility
Also I really do not see the US invading canada. It’s too large, it’s like invading russia.
Its large but the Canadians are mostly concentrated in pockets near the border.
90% south of the northernmost part of the continental united states, international falls, minnesota.
It’s a “temperature round” tracking nascent anxiety. Not useless but not very specific.
Nearly two thirds of Canadians aren’t paying attention.
Or they fail to imagine a situation that seems unrealistic.
Or they can’t come to terms with it.
Or they are delusional.
Optimism bias. People failed to acknowledge a pandemic was happening until and even while it was happening in their own neighborhood and city…
When the tanks roll in they’ll still deny there’s an issue.
There are a lot of brain dead Albertans right now who are lining up to be completely obliterated by the US. They all think they’re going to become wealthy Americans, but the US just wants their resources…not them.
They really need to do some homework on the CNMI, because that’s their future as “Americans”.
They think, because they’re white, this won’t happen…but it was never a race war, it’s always been a class war.
And these people have no class.
at this point its becoming a class genocide
They might not know about their equivalent in the US: Mississippi.
Do you actually live here, or is this just the theme park version of Alberta?
I don’t live there now, but am from Edmonton, and have spent most of my life there. All my family are still there and i visit a few times a year.
Alberta
To begin with, much of the loud infowarrior rides are also there, trying to import MAGA garbage from south of the border, asides that some of their owners are also avoiding the IRS.
They can’t control their southern border from people wandering in, I dunno if they can handle the largest border on earth, whether they try or not
At the northern border is a nation of people that look and sound just like them, it would be a nightmare of gorilla warfare
If the bombs go off near the wrong zoo, it’ll be pandamonium…
Not just that, most of the northern population would help them
You think we sound like Americans eh? I’m not so sure aboot that
There’s a reason they keep hiring tv presenters from central canada. Neutral sounding accent. All we have to do is make a few vowels more nasal and avoid talking about chesterfield fuckers.
Alright I know im a hairy dude, but I am not a gorilla!
Yeah. Let’s say this extremely unlikely thing does happen. There’s some kind of false flag attack, like a person wearing a Canadian flag does a suicide bomber attack on the US congress or something. An event that riles up Americans enough that there’s enough support for an invasion of Canada that Trump could get away with it.
Now imagine the result of invading a country where almost none of the locals want you there, and all of the locals can pass for Americans. European countries might be too cowardly to actually send their armies against the US for doing that. But, they would almost certainly find a way to fund and train Canadian freedom fighters. The Canadian / American border is completely indefensible. It’s simply too big to ever be properly guarded.
So, you’d have Canadians slipping into the US easily, they’d be trained and armed by Europeans, Australians, Japanese, Koreans, and all the other former US allies. And, once in the states they’d have no problem finding support networks to help them attack American targets.
Just because Trump would be insane to try this doesn’t mean he wouldn’t do it. With their massive propaganda networks in place, they might get a fair number of Americans to support it, at least at first. But, the most they could ever hope for is a Pyrrhic victory.
That’s how I see it too, I’m not going to assume they won’t try, but I’m not so sure of the success if it goes that way
Unfortunately, even if they didn’t succeed, it would be horrible for everybody involved, especially the invaded country. Trump is definitely the type who would wipe Winnipeg off the map if some Winnipegger killed someone important.
Oh, of that I have no doubt of either
Can, like, Canada and Denmark invade us instead? I wouldn’t have to convince my wife to move out of this shithole
Unfortunately the fix has to come from inside your own borders. You all have sacrificed way too much funding your military
I always love the duality of comments on this topic. America’s military is a Schrodinger’s Military at this point, both terrifying and completely non-existent basically depending on what time of day the conversation happens at.
Canadians can’t help because the military is so powerful (completely obvious and understandable) but also, like somebody up above said, “Americans are feckless sheep” for not shooting up the White House yet.
Everybody’s a hero until it’s their life on the line.
Fair point, but Americans have more levers they can pull like mass striking and protesting. If Canada were to invade the US, the US would invade back, likely with popular support as they’d just be “defending themselves”
Militaries are only as strong as the country’s will to continue to fight. The US had great social upheaval for a relatively low casualty war in Vietnam (<60k dead in 8 yr). Compare the casualty rates from Vietnam with what Russia is experiencing in Ukraine (180-480k deaths in 3 yr).
I remember listening to Dan Carlin talk about how wars are typically won by the side that doesn’t know when to give up. Early Rome was this way. 1941 USSR was this way. 2026 USA is NOT going to win a drawn out, existential war. We would kill a lot of people, sure, thanks to all the weapons and guns but we don’t think we have what it takes to win a major power war anymore.
The Dutch can take back NY anytime.
We’re waiting until the USA economy collapses under Trump’s incompetence and the military refuses orders because they’re not being paid. Then we leisurely walk in.
We really appreciate it man.
We would bring scary things like free wealthfare with us. And all americans were to accept it. Nonnegotiable. Almost a dictatorship like move.
Don’t threaten me with a good time
You MANIACS! YOU
BLEW IT UPMADE US HEALTHIER!But again, that would probably fuck up the business case for Wegovy and other Novo Nordics products and subsequently Denmark’s economy. Might be a bad idea. We shouldn’t forget about the billionaires and their wealth.
Countries seem woefully unpreprared for the fallout when the US collapses even more than it already has.
It will depend on the world’s reaction when he goes for Greenland in a couple of weeks. Most probably nothing will happen so, unless americans sheeps starts a civil war (lol), he will try something on Canada for sure (he already said there’s an energy / electricity crisis, that why I suspect he’ll go for Quebec first). Most Canadians will probably bend over if they’re offered one year of free Amazon delivery and 50% off Netflix. Ford and Smith will collaborate in exchange for being named governors.
Not sure how “the end of NATO” will result in nothing happening! Can you elaborate on how major trade and military and diplomatic agreements will not be withdrawn, and result in no reaction?
Giving the reaction to the clear violation of international agreements in Venezuela, and pretty much every country saying it’s ok for the US to invade a country to steal ressouces, I’m not sur what you expect will happen. Greenland will be the official end of NATO and Europe will probably create its own alliance. Knowing Trump’s plan to take Canada, they will obviously chicken out and leave us on our own. Most countries have already, or will soon turn far-right, do you expect these leaders to stand up for anything else than themselves?
Canada is running a pretty strong boycott of US products right now. For example of the Canadians planning a trip to the US in 2025 56% of them cancelled it or went to another destination, which is not the US. Seriously airlines are replanning their flights, due to the massive drop in demand. Something similar is happening with US products and services, but some are hard to replace. However Netflix and Amazon are not.
Until about a year ago I would have said that therea no way our people in the military would cooperate. Now with seeing ice do all this heinous shit, yeah our military might actually do it
Only a third?
The propaganda is working!
Soon everyone can cower to this demented administration.
It really depends on timeframe suggested.
Ever? Yes, they definitely may.
