Glad I read the writing on the wall and switched a few months ago
But I don’t wanna redesign my nice app tray and home screen. Can I just never update it?
That’s my plan…
I JUST STARTED USING IT TWO WEEKS AGO CMON

They were already acquired by a shit head like 3 years ago. This is just a new shit head.
Bit late to the party…
Onec again the “Everything that’s not FOSS will turn to shit at one point or another” theorem proves true.
And if a FOSS project turns into shit a fork will come up.
One perfect example was simple apps acquisition. New owners turned it a ad ridden mess, fossify apps fork came to the rescue.
nextcloud! mariadb! libreoffice!
Fuck MariaDB, all my homies use Postgres.
Mariadb got bought by a private equity strip miner company late 2024, so it will probably be mined for every enshittification possible before thrown on the garbage heap like every company private equity has acquired before it.
(It always takes a few years of inefficient planning before private equity starts rolling out enshittification)
Yeah but foss has its own problems. Mainly financing. People are expected to work for free on most open source projects, and some do because they enjoy it. I do that myself too. Its fun.
But foss doesnt create products that require a lot of funding to get off the ground.
There is something to be said about continuous community effort. Projects tend to continue even with original developers absent, sometimes for a very long time.
One of my favourite games is STALKER, and boy does it hold a story and history behind the community. The eurojank game that was modded into an AAA looking survival game that was even published to GOG (STALKER GAMMA). Such project could’ve probably costed millions for a studio. Coincidentally, watched this video today, which briefly tells the history too: https://youtu.be/5C80TWlTC1o
I use Total Launcher, even if it’s not Foss, since it’s the only launcher I found that give me the tools to do anything I want, even in it’s free tier. I never had issues with it. But I hope to find a foss alternative one day.
On 3, 2, 1,… Everybody Juuuuuuump to any other good launchers
Can’t recommend KISS Launcher enough.
I like this one https://kvaesitso.mm20.de/
This is what I’m using too. Was a little different, but simple enough, out of the way enough and easy too. Goldilocks zone launcher
This one is the best!
Yep. Kvaesitso is the goat!
I am NOT a power user of my phone. That said, I’ve liked YAM Launcher for a while. It is minimalist and does everything I want in a launcher.
Hyperion seems like a good drop-in replacement.
Fuck. I bought this forever ago, either for my Droid 2 or my Galaxy S3. Skipped it on my first Pixel and came back on the Pixel 7.
Haven’t really heard any talk about it, didn’t know about the owner/dev drama until seeing some comments here.
Haven’t noticed any ads myself yet, but maybe that’s a “coming soon” thing.
Time to go launcher shopping again. This thread mentioned Lawnchair and Niagara, so I’ll check those out first.
I’m using Niagara in the free tier and I’m very happy with it. it’s snappy and good looking and I spend so little time hunting through my apps for the ones I need thanks to the favorites section on the home screen. good stuff
I was a longtime nova user. Switched to octopi launcher. It has all my favorite features from nova.
I bought it back then in the Android… 2.x or 4.x days as the launcher on my phone sucked. Hadn’t much complaints about the stock launchers of my next few phones and forgot about it until I got a Pixel. Wow, the pixel launcher was a complete letdown. Especially the forced unremovable search bar that’s completely useless for me and takes up so much real estate on the screen. Then I couldn’t remove the at a glance widget either (IIRC a big back then, but… Yeah…). I get it, that it’s nice, but… Again: Too much real estate for a clock, a totally unreliable weather info (at least in my area?) and info about the currently playing song.
Searched launchers, remembered Nova and was surprised it was still around and had all the features I wanted. Bonus: it allows me to resize widgets.
I tried Octopi, when the owner change news for Nova hit, but was so used to having folders on the dock from my previous phones and Nova, that I couldn’t use it without that feature. So I tried lawnchair which is basically the pixel launcher but with exactly the features I missed in the original. I can get rid of spotlight and can get rid of the search bar. Widgets are resizable. Also the dock features folders. And I can control the grid size and adjust it to my liking.
Niagara was also recommended to me, but… IIRC in the end it felt to opinionated about the workflow and immediately lost me. Not what I’m looking for in a launcher. (Not saying it’s bad - just that it’s not for me).
Lawnchair is pretty good.
Yup. I’ve carried it over several phones, have the paid version.
Lawnchair doesn’t have a paid version, it’s open source
Might be a different launcher I had before then.
Thanks for this post, I quickly turned off auto-updates 👀
I only started using it half a year ago, but it was still the best from all the launchers I’ve tried 😔
this last week i finally bit the bullet and switched my default launcher to smart launcher once they finally got infinite scrolling working.
i think 2 days later nova updated to this latest version. i’m not going to see ads since i paid for it more than a decade ago. but that fb tracking (that i was not made aware of) i really don’t like.
i hope nova gets open sourced soon.
I recommend Kvaesitso, very snappy with lots of functionality.
Am I just not seeing it or do they not seem to allow icons on the desktop?
they do? you go to the settings, home screens, and increase the dock rows.
It just looks like none of the screen shots are showing desktop icons which is weird
Nova launcher works great for me, I haven’t let it update in years. Looks like that isn’t going to change.
I’ve been burned so many times that I’ve finally learned my lesson. When I find that I like an app, that it does everything I want, the first thing I do is turn auto updates off. It can stay frozen in time forever, just working normally.
Understand where the thought comes from, but do you know what zero days are
Yeah sure, the os gets regular updates, banking apps get updates.
But when it comes to digital devices, convenience and security are in a constant tug of war, ultimately we have to make a choice. And when I make that choice I remember that this isn’t a company phone, there’s no customer data at risk, no important info to be breached. And still the number of times I’ve been hacked: 0
They’re talking about app updates not firmware and system updates
Apps can have vulnerabilities too. What happens when something you install can make changes to your launcher because one of it’s libraries has a known hole? Launchers get a decent level of unchecked power.
No one is going to waste a zero day on a random guy using Nova launcher. Zero days are used against governments & other militaries.
But if you’re not installing updates to patch out a zero day, the vulnerability is still there.
when are you nerds going to learn that software is religion , developers are prophets, and users are following the words of God?
Bought it so many years ago. Moved to action launcher and since that was abandoned, I’m now using lynx launcher which works perfectly for me.
i like lawnchair launcher :3
















