Just fucking sad.
It’s behind a paywall and I’m not giving Bloomberg money
Those Epstein files must be absolutely fucking insane for Donny.
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Maybe the Epstein files were the friends we made along the way.
We got <1% of the files, heavily redacted and it was still fucking wild. I cannot imagine how batshit fucking crazy the actual files are
What if Q was someone deeply embedded in the Epstein shit, but also a right-wing fascist so they just spun it all as Democrats doing all the evil shit?
This is what i think is close to the truth because I was there at the beginning of pizza gate. The story now is completely different. It started with a republican owned pizza place that had a basement and everything. Then all of a sudden it’s comet over here! And look at this! A crazy has shown up to shoot! Oh now you’re the asshole if you bring up that conspiracy!
Fucking convenient that shit was. That was before Q too.
(Oh this was before/during the clear /r/conspiracy shift/takeover of the right wing) ahhhhhh they now you sound crazy if you talk about it. Fuck em.
Sounds like you’re describing the whole “every accusation is a confession…” projection shit that the GOP has been doing for 40 years.
We know who Q is. It’s Ron Watkins.
Probably like even worse than the Sasha Riley accusations.
so hot they’re literally on fire right now.
The orange thing must’ve raped loads of children to go to these lengths to distract from it all.
The thing is, in the current US i don’t see him being affected by it no matter how horrific the contents are
Donald Trump is America’s Jimmy Savile.
There was a tip line call about him being present for the execution of his own bastard newborn and then discarding it into a lake. I mean yeah that’s not evidence but who makes that shit up? Knowing that he was putting girls into those kinds of situations etc and then calls the FBI tip line with it?
Like, you really gonna call them up with a lie about the one of the most prominent people in American society? How do you think that’s gonna go for you?
So, yeah my conclusion is that there is stuff in there that would make rotten.com look tame.
It’s not just insane for him… pretty much all of the political power of the Middle East is also in those files. It has a reach that goes beyond borders of the US so they’re actually scared about what will happen when Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, Muhammad bin Nayef, Netanyahu, etc all show up in pictures and financial records.
It’s the entire worlds power more likely.
Ya, you’re probably right
Maybe the alien invasion from outer space we were expecting since Independence day. was just the Americans using either their space force toys or the solar warden fleet to take over the world?
If the U.S. pulls out of NATO, losing Greenland will be the least of Europe’s worries.
It will become obvious at least two weeks before it happens, since we’d need to move aircraft carriers, etc. there. Also, they’d be fools to resist.
No, I’m not supporting this at all, I’m just stating facts.
ITT: Americans once again diging up the nuanced difference between the people and the government from the memory hole they dumped it in the last time Russia was mentioned.
I seriously cannot picture this happening. More of Trump’s dementia addled Twitter rambling. Even the puppets pulling his strings wouldn’t want this.
I mean, crazier shit has happened, but I see the US going full Handmaid’s Tale long before I see them invading a self-governed nation full of almost exclusively white people.
My money would be on Russia making that play before the US.
Can Trump just… not? When is the grim reaper coming for him? PLEASE I hope every night he dies the next day (legally and naturally).
Hoping the problem just resolves itself and doing nothing will, well, so nothing.
“We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of options!!!”
Trump is a symptom, not the cause.
100% but he does have a magical hold on so many idiots. The conservative machine knows this is a once in a generation occasion so they’re trying to accomplish everything before he’s gone. Once he’s gone, Vance won’t be able to control that rabid base as well.
It’ll still be a nightmare I’m sure, but not as bad.
He’s a fetish or a lightning rod, without him there’s a solid chance the movement loses cohesive flow. Its far easier to kick a concussed coyote by itself than a pack of the things.
I hope he dies illegally and unnaturally
I don’t care how he dies. Just soon. And ideally very painfully.
Actually that would be secondary. Ideally, he rots in prison for the rest of a long miserable life, where he can see the media and his own followers criticize, make fun of, and torment his little impotent insecurity. He’s never going to prison though, so…
This doesn’t stop with Trump. They voted for Trump and they voted for the congress that protects him. They will just pick another person that does the same thing, but probably sounds less stupid while doing it. This is an America problem.
I beg to differ. His cult is hard carrying. Republican politicians don’t mind reversing all their opinions at the drop of a hat because opposing his cult has proven to be (until recently) political suicide. The [legal and natural] death of Donald Trump would leave the party in shambles. Susie Wiles and Stephen Miller need a figurehead and there isn’t any that can court maga.
It definitely does continue to some extent. He’s not only the cause but also a symptom of a rotten society. However, he is a once in a generation talent at leading the cult. While Vance is “fully enlightened” (as Yarvin and Thiel have said), he can’t command that same kind of magical hold on the cult.
Nah. This specific thing is all him.
Edit: shit, and Stephen miller, but he’s gone with trump I think.
It’s not. He is just the figurehead for their regime.
He would have been legally fired a long time ago if he was alone.
His voters support him and are clueless about his actions and the world. Most republican representatives are just going along with it because he’s so powerful with his cult.
“His voters” being most of the people that cast votes in the presidential election, so yeah, its really not “just him” is it?
They don’t support his ideas and actions. They’ve never thought about most of them. They support him and if he switched stances tomorrow they would follow.
He has some kind of magical hold on his cult members. Of course the conservative propaganda machine (Fox, Newsmax, OANN, Twitter, TikTok) are so adeptly tuned to keep them brainwashed, but Trump himself is a once in a generation talent for leading the cult.
Really I’m so impressed at how efficient the propaganda machine keeps the base so angry and so oblivious to reality. It’s completely terrifying, but really really effective.
The magical hold is simply telling them what they want to hear. They are responding to their racist fascist desires being validated.
I fully believe the fascism and shit continues. I’m not sure the Greenland thing does though. It seems like a weird personal obsession.
Natural resources becoming more accessible due to climate change and military positioning. I unfortunately doubt this ends with Trump.
They know Trump’s on his last legs. Peter Thiel put that fuckhead JD Vance in there for a reason. Things will escalate quickly if/when he becomes president.
Their voting is rigged. The people should not rely on that system
I and many people I know have spent our whole lives trying to change the rigged system of FPTP/single-member constituency voting with the further distortion of state-based apportionment.
The issue, as with any rigged system, is that it’s really hard to un-rig unless either the people benefitting from the rigging let it change (lol) or there’s a major upheaval—usually a war. It took WWI for the German voting system to be un-rigged in favor of the Junkers and Belgium to end their rigged system, and it took a civil war in America to end the 3/5 Compromise which was a start in the right direction and then a decade plus of sustained sctivism for the civil rights movement to see a real impact in voting rights.
The thing with the USA is they are permanently at war, and no war has changed the system. The people benefiting from it are thriving in their political system. What’s gonna happen when this two things can’t change the system? I’m afraid it’s gonna be a Civil conflict.
We’ve been in a cold civil war for years now. It’s just getting hotter and hotter.
I’ve been to marches that were literally planned by children afraid of their futures and boomer men showed up with guns to scare them.
I agree, but these local policies completely opposed to the federal government will bring an armed conflict. If the National Guard decides to back one governor instead of staying loyal to Trump, to name one circumstance, then that may spark a national conflict. This is not the most probable thing to happen, with Black Panthers in the streets already, but it’s a delicate state of things. We have a saying for this that applies to Trump and the USA: it’s like freeing a goat in a glassware shop.
It’s crazy that I’m kinda hoping for a civil war, at this point. I don’t see any way out of this that isn’t an armed conflict.
I didn’t come here until I was a teen and I was deposited into a state that is pretty hostile to everything that I am. My wife came to the US when she was 17 and its been a struggle for her since day 1.
I am so beyond exhausted.
Check out the Election Truth Alliance. Definitely sketchy in some ways so take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt, but it could be on to something.
Honestly if this happens I’m sorry to the normal people there but I’d be in favor of nuking the US over this. We can’t let another Hitler get his way nomatter the consequences.
How exactly does one prepare for invasion?
DONT WORRY! The Congress that’s Beholden to the American people WONT let This happen AGAIN! Because if they do Us Americans will VOTE THEM OUT!
-LoL!
I’m so incredibly tired boss- tired of arguing with dumb magat nazi fucks on the internet, tired of seeing my country destroyed from the inside out day by day, tired of seeing the orange jizz biscuit spewing rhetoric from the podium out of his face anus like a sharting sprinkler- I’m doing my diligence and vetting activists groups to join so I can get off the internet take it to the streets. no nazi should feel comfortable, period
Californian here.
There’s really no possible way I’ll ever have any sort of faith in my country again. I won’t go out of my way to help it. I’ll always default to assuming it’s a bad actor and that I need to protect myself from it. From here on out I’m a Californian, not an American.
Orange dipshit will die. Sooner than later. But the country will still be full of irredeemably stupid assholes. I don’t feel any allegiance to that. It only serves to make me feel nauseous.
Some of these comments are awful. Apparently, if we all aren’t wrapping ourselves and children with explosives and becoming Jihadists overnight, we’re not doing enough.
This is a class war. The rich have taken over all the checks and balances in our system to where they can break every rule and comfortably get away with it; all the while getting richer and us poorer. We’re powerless and spread too thin geographically to do anything meaningful. Maybe we do need to get that radical, but I really hope it doesn’t ever need to get to that point.
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Stop with the false fucking hope, wake the fuck up, and do something. God you people will be wringing your hands acting like there is nothing you can do right until the end.
JOIN A UNION. JOIN THE IWW. ORGANIZE. GET INVOLVED IN LOCAL PROTESTS AND NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK. FORM A GROUP CHAT FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. BUY A GUN AND LEARN TO USE IT.
Where did the original commenter say they weren’t doing these things? Or are you just not satisfied unless every random person on the internet is declaring they’re committing suicide by cop?
Where do you live, should I make assumptions about you? Are you out on the street right now calling for sanctions on US plutocrats? Are you in the USA and not seeing this networking happen on the ground? If so, where in particular and what are you doing about it? Otherwise, what conditions are making your networking successful and how can we replicate those? Because I promise your imagined passivity is not universal…
“Americans should improve their society somewhat.”
"Why do you want me to die? ? ? ! ! "
Masterful deflection of the questions
But do it faster, faster I say! I want to see American bodies in the street on the telly!
The world has been seeing America spilling blood of the citizens of the third-world in the streets for decades. What goes around, comes around.
Ahh yes, that’s such a wonderful approach to take. You sir are no better than Trump.
Edit: In fact you’re no better than the United States government at that. You’re sick.
I don’t want to see anyone dead, or suffering, but you have to acknowledge how fucking evil your country is if we are going to have this conversation. Your government is actively doing nazi shit, and you are trying to shame ME? I am begging you to DO SOMETHING TO STOP FASCISM, but all you can do is get upset about people chatting shit about your nazi fuck nation on the internet.
You just said “what comes around goes around” in regards to my country’s shitty behavior. You’ve lost all moral standing with me because of that and have shown you’re not reasonable. V
Yes but apparently fighting fascistism is mildly inconvenient so they’re not going to do it.
Nobody is blaming you for what Trump is doing. Nobody is asking you to become terrorists and this hyperbole is extremely unhelpful. We are blaming you for the fact that we’re not seeing protests every day that make the BLM protests seem like small gatherings. You guys are way past the point of being able to hope. Do something today. This is your country, so it’s your responsibility.
We are blaming you for the fact that we’re not seeing protests every day…
This is just not possible and the rich are banking on that. It would have to become much much worse before people will risk their own employment, access to medical benefits, and personal security so that we can march.
It’s easy to suggest those things but in reality it’s just not going to happen.
People in far worse circumstances than Americans got out in the streets and forced change.
The time to act is now, not in the future when they’re even more entrenched.
Sure, but name one that is as big and spread out like the US? We are unique in that regard.
Isn’t the whole point of the states that they basically operate like a bunch of smaller countries? You don’t have to protest enough to budge the feds, you just need to protest enough to remind your state that they can and should stand up against the feds.
what does it matter? if you live in buttfuck then march in buttfuck with the rest of your buttfuck habitants… where do you get that you have to travel to DC to march?
It’s easy to suggest those things but in reality it’s just not going to happen.
It’s even easier to make excuses for not doing it.
Some of these comments are awful. Apparently, if we all aren’t wrapping ourselves and children with explosives and becoming Jihadists overnight, we’re not doing enough.
LOL right… maybe just stop the endless excuses and do something, anything… stop consuming, hold a march on a weekday, write to your corrupt Senator or House Rep weekly
The real problem here is that you have given the world Chlamydia but want to sit there pretending it is not your fault and any effort on your part is just asking too much
Here are concrete steps we can take to combat this (the titles below expand if you click them).
Learn First Aid! ⛑️
The future us likely to be violent, and It extremely important to have the skills to be able to keep yourself and others alive if they get hurt. You can never have too many medics.
Tacticool Girlfriend provides a great introduction to building a personal first aid kit, called an IFAK, which can deal with things like bullet wounds and other serious bleeding wounds. I also want to emphasize her recommendation of only buying medical gear from reputable sources (not Amazon!), such as North American Rescue to avoid fakes that could cost you your life.
But you’ll need to learn how to use that equipment, too. The best resource for that is to take a local Stop The Bleed class, which are pretty widely available in most places. They may cost a small fee, but can also sometimes be free. Alternatively, if you cannot access a local class, this video by PrepMedic will give you a solid understanding of how to use Tourniquets and Gauze for wound packing.
Injuries are less harmful if they are tended to early. Learning first aid can help conserve resources when healthcare becomes unaffordable. Having several medics in case of harm by police is an extremely powerful morale booster during a protest that may become a police riot. When you become comfortable with the basics of first aid, riot medicine is the next suggested step.
Establish or join local Mutual Aid networks ✊
If you haven’t already, get to know your neighbors. Mutual aid is a willingness to support and grow your community. This can include informal networks through friends, tenant/renter organizations, solidarity groups, and industrial unions.
These are groups using direct action to solve each other’s problems. Building strong communities makes it difficult for fascism to take root. The actions of the government are going to hit every community hard, and the ones who build trust in each other and work together are most likely to survive. We’ve been building a list of resources in !inperson@slrpnk.net to help you on your way. Also check out this handy guide to find existing groups in your area.
This isn’t only for your own community protection. Your ability to organize today will change the political landscape tomorrow. When revolution occurs, the social organizations that show the greatest resilience through the regime are the ones typically calling the shots when the dust settles. When it comes to elections, get out the vote drives are useless if most of the voters are fascists. At some point, you have to do grassroots political education if you don’t want fascist candidates winning elections. Mutual aid networks are excellent forums not only for teaching each other good political ideas, but demonstrating them in practice.
Join a Union and Prepare for a General Strike! 💪
The most effective non-violent action we can take is preparing and organizing for a General Strike.
The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor. That tactic was extremely effective in Chile in 2019, and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would’ve had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.
If you aren’t in a union (or even if you are, it’s worth dual-carding), consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you’ll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to strengthen a general strike if we manage to enact one, as most unions have a strike fund that can supplement your income during a general strike to make it more financially bearable (you should also save as much money as you can reasonably do, so it can also be used to keep yourself afloat during a strike).
And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn’t listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above, and they’ll help you set up a new local branch.
Adopt Security Culture and Digital Camouflage 🛡️
Sometimes benign seeming efforts can turn into unexpected personal data collecting traps. Like an obscure website for exchanging contact info with other students turning into a global ad-tech surveillance network (Facebook), or innocent seeming online personality tests being use to harvest character profiles. Even Etsy, Reddit, Tinder, and Duolingo are feeding information to US Government Agencies like ICE.
Security culture is commonly used to describe the general awareness of such potential traps and how it can affect groups or entire communities. This goes beyond mere individual privacy efforts, as without joint efforts these often fail to work.
Especially in activist circles, security culture is paramount. For opsec reasons not everyone in the group might be aware of what clandestine efforts others are involved in, but with a general security culture many potential data leaks can be avoided.
Movements are made by the volume of their participants, and the easier and less dangerous it is to participate, the more people will get involved. As more people get involved, individual involvement becomes even less dangerous, creating a virtuous cycle.
We’ll start it off with some General Advice:
- Mentally wall off personal uniquely identifying info from your online presence, actively build a habit of opsec so that withholding information is your default mental state
- Be careful about who you meet online
- Use different, unrelated usernames, passwords & emails for every account. And try not to connect to those accounts with your real IP address (use Tor or a VPN)
- Be mindful that anything done online leaves a trail
- agents provocateurs may seek to find patsies willing to perform an ill-advised illegal activity in order to legitimize police repression. If someone is trying to pressure you, especially if you don’t have a long and proven history with them, be extremely wary.
For a full guide on what encrypted communications platforms to use, and how to stay off the radar, read the Digital Camouflage section within the Monthly Meta post here (you’ll need to scroll down. I’d add it here, but it won’t fit in this comment).
Ok but there is quite a way between going oh I don’t like what’s happening on social media and blowing yourself up.
Write to your representatives and make it extremely clear that if they want to be reelected they will stand up to Trump.
Massive protests, the No Kings protest were good but then you all kind of just gave up. Nothing violent but just a stubborn refusal to go along is all that is required. Boycott companies that support Trump, don’t buy the next iPhone (it’s basically the same phone every year anyway), don’t go to FIFA, don’t go to the Olympics, go to as many town meetings as you can and raise points of order and complain. Make it even possible for the powers that be to ignore the situation.
Just imagine you’re a French dock worker complaining about industrialisation.
Don’t waste your time writing to representatives. Democracy is gone, bud, you need to start imagining that you are living under the nazi regime. Arm yourself and network with activists. Make contacts now while you still can.
I only mentioned writing to representatives because the original poster was so keen to do nothing. Anything’s better than that kind of apathy.
The really striking thing about the contingent of non-Americans in this thread who are blaming all Americans, even specifically those who oppose Trump, is that I can’t imagine a psyop doing a better job of fracturing the American left and isolating the US.
I think Lemmy is still small enough that the people who are vomiting on the anti-Trump Americans and insisting on collective blame are probably real people, who don’t know how to direct their anger (which is quite depressing). But to explain, I actually can’t think of what Russia would do differently to accomplish (1) transposing anger against Trump into anger against all Americans, which helps (2) sever international support to internal American anti-Trump protesters, and thereby (3) weaken internal American resistance to Trump by making those of us here who opposed Trump feel and be even more isolated.
Solidarity across borders seems like a better approach. Seems like you would feed the tree you want to grow, and starve the invasive weed you don’t, instead of just relieving oneself on both. But what do I know, I’m just a stupid American.
I blame my fellow Americans who didn’t vote.
As a non-American, I’m not angry at all Americans. In fact, some have been very brave and selfless. I’m angry at Republican officials and voters, billionaires, millionaires, spineless Democrats, and non-voters. We’re in this position because of them. Unfortunately, that makes up a huge part of the American population. I applaud and admire the minority who are actually doing something, even if it’s only to offer a bottle of water to the protestors or donating goods, but it’s frustrating seeing that most are just letting it happen, whether it’s because they agree with it or don’t want to join the activists. I empathise with their need to go to work, take care of their families, and look out for their safety, but I’m sure that those out in the streets have these responsibilities as well.
They don’t need to psyop if they just stress us out enough to lash out against each other instead.
From a non-American’s viewpoint, most Americans seem very content to only vent online about how they didn’t vote for this but they don’t seem to be holding their congress and senate representatives to task to get Trump out of office, now. There is a possibility of a general strike on Friday - it should be throughout the USA. In every city. Let your reps know that you are not just attending the odd protest but that citizen demand change immediately. They can impeach or Amendment 25 him out right now. No waiting for the slight possibility that there might still be an election in November. Trump isn’t obeying any other laws or the constitution so he can’t be expected to hold and then abide by an election many more months away. Americans do not seem, from the world’s view, to be treating Trump with the urgency that is needed.
I’ve contacted my “representatives” multiple times. Every time, the response is nothing or 🖕. I go to protests. I move my spending accordingly. I also have two parents getting very old who need care, a wife, and a pesky need to feed ourselves. Fleeing the country is not an option right now.
A widespread general strike will likely never happen because most people would be fired on the spot if they told their boss they were going on a strike. If you get fired, you don’t qualify for unemployment, and most people are only a single paycheck away from being homeless. I guess people from a lot of countries do not understand this concept because they had the privilege of actual workers rights.
We’ve been protesting. The frustration you have from thinking we’re doing nothing is the same frustration we have with the so called Representatives sitting with their thumbs up their asses. They don’t care what we think. They straight up make fun of us for trying. With the exception of Greenland and Canada, the rest of the world does not understand the pure rage, frustration, and fear we’re dealing with every single day. If you’re somewhere like mainland Europe, you’re in a far safer place than we are right now. You don’t have to worry about if and when your friends and family will get randomly kidnapped by ICE. You don’t have to worry about when you too will get put in a concentration camp simply for having leftist political views. If the US actually goes through with invading Greenland, what do you think that is going to mean for those inside of the US? The country would immediately tear apart. All US bonds would immediately get dumped, and there would be a worldwide economic collapse. The only silver lining would be that the American war machine would also hopefully collapse. It may be large, but it’s expensive to run. The entire US would turn into something that looks like the Bosnian War. Due to the US facing an internal collapse, Canada would likely be able to resist occupation, and Greenland would be won back from any kind of conquest. While awful things would happen in mainland Europe, they would pale in comparison to whatever happened in the US. We’re dealing with fascists, and there would probably be hundreds of Tiananmen Square type events. This last few months has involved coming to terms that we probably will never have a chance to live a full life because we’ll be dead long before old age ever comes.
We’re not a country of soldiers. We’re just regular people. Despite whatever you might think, most people do not own guns or know how to use them. Do you expect people to leave their children homeless and without food over a 1 day strike? Do you understand that if a war happens, most of us will probably end up dead simply from being inside of the US? And even if there isn’t a war, we may 2 years or less until we get put in a concentration camp simply for being against Trump. I fucking worry every day that my friends could get disappeared at any moment. You see stuff in the news about Minneapolis, but ICE is in every city. Over 1000 miles away, they’ve been going door to door near some of my closest friends. To suggest we are content is batshit. We are not okay with anything. I’m not going to apologize for the threats of an orange megalomaniac that I continually try to resist.
If you’re outside of the US, you absolutely can do stuff. Stop buying things that feed the monster. Build defenses and deterrents against US aggression. And get the money out of your own politics too. Stay vigilant. You don’t want to go down this road, and it’s closer than you’d think. If the US goes to war, it won’t win. We might all be dead, but maybe the world will reset and fascism will fall.
As a non-American, you’re basing your perspective on what exactly?
We’ve got dead Americans out there and these people “doesn’t look like anything to me”.
Yea… cops being detained by ICE, cops fighting ICE, citizens being shot, protests in every major city… “nothing happening at all.”
The guy literally has said you’ll never have to vote again and has recently been teasing the idea of skipping the upcoming election. If american streets are still empty of angry citezens after that election is canceled, we are truly cooked.
Sorry our sternly worded emails aren’t having immediate effect in a system that is completely immobilized right now. 🤷♂️
There’s literally hordes of people outside teslas and other locations in near every place i go and I’m in the south. You don’t know anything.
They can impeach or Amendment 25 him out right now
This mindset that the “American defeatist voter” is the issue is so blatantly out of touch with the USA’s reality that it’s exactly what other US commenters are trying to point out. That part of the game has been over for a while. Federal representatives quite literally shut the door, leave the assembly or move away when they’re pressured. They don’t need your vote any more, their job is to rubber stamp whatever happens; the plutocrats pay them well enough to insulate them from repercussions.
There’s no political leverage to oust them or anyone else in the fed. If you want them out the answer is adventurism and there’s no citizenship requirement for that, buy yourself a plane ticket if you think that urgency is required.
Knowing that, the American citizen’s pressing concern is resistance, community safety and solidarity. Regardless of how scary things are for the rest of the world, we’re stuck in the eye of the hurricane for the foreseeable future. Maybe the post-Trump fascist dictator will be less aggressive to your country but we’ll be under the same boot. Our goals are framed in the longterm view by necessity.
I feel for Americans who are stuck there. What else do you want from me? We are watching what is happening and wondering why Americans continue to allow it. We get upset because we think it’s going to become our problem.
We don’t have a lot of sympathy or love list with you guys right now and we have our own to take care of, honestly.
At best you’re a security risk.
We were friends the whole time. We all went to Afghanistan and got our boys killed. Now you directly threaten my country and you don’t think I show enough sympathy and solidarity?
This was supposed to be a pro-sane-americans post but I think I kind of convinced myself Naw, fuck yas
So… You’re not in favor of sane Americans?
What else do you want from me?
Refrain from discouraging people just now showing up for action, and heaping loads of scorn and mockery on what appear to be tiny efforts for you. It’s big for that guy, who has never done anything like that before and never thought he’d have to. There are 340 million Americans spread across a massive continent, some of whom are just now waking up to the real threat our president is presenting not just to us but to the world. Many of them have been living in a propaganda bubble. Some, unbelievably, still are.
And if you’re European, do something about the threat in your own backyard, Putin. Our president is a Russian asset, and everything he is doing with his presidential power, literally everything, benefits Putin. Putin’s been firehosing us with propaganda for ten years, and now it’s paying off in spades: he got his own monkey voted into office. But he’s still your threat, more than ours. If you were to find a way to stop Putin’s propaganda machine today, both of them would be out of office by next week. I’m not even joking. It’s so bad in the US now that the instant the propaganda stopped it would be the end of this regime.
I’m pretty sure that we, the regular individual Americans you are sermonizing here, are the only ones who can stop the orange filth now. Washington can’t; they’re too corrupt. It’s up to us regular folk now. So what can you say and do that will help us win that fight? If you can’t or don’t want to, fine. But stop shitting on the people who are just waking up and don’t know where to start.
I really don’t understand what’s stopping any of these revolutionary, non-Americans from coming over and taking matters into their own hands. The prevailing belief seems to be that everybody on the west coast, north east, and in the blue states should just be quitting their jobs, sacrificing their healthcare and their homes, driving 5 days to DC, and getting themselves into situations they’ll be KOS.
In fairness, CBP would stop them at the border. They wouldn’t even get an ESTA approved if they answered truthfully.
Were you not already aware that Trump is a Russian asset?
Yes much better said that I can produce in my current emotional state. This is a class war and they are abusing Americans by separating us from those that care about us (our allies).
