That’s just echo-chambering yourself. You might get some weird ideas about reality as a result.
While some people need blocking of course. It’s a balance. Give them a second chance.
True. Since I started using piefed I’ve been negatively curating my all feed by just blocking everything that is the least bit annoying or not entertaining. It’s much better.
You don’t owe internet people the ability to spam your feed or subject you to their moronic takes.
Also, like, in general, your interactions with these people mean literally nothing. Wasting time replying to them or trying to one up them or dunk on them does nothing but drag you into the miasma of their meaningless bickering.
I’m a fan of the “downvote and move on” tactic, but it seems to be pretty common sentiment among lemmy mods that this is the opposite of what you should do.
Also, like, in general, your interactions with these people mean literally nothing. Wasting time replying to them or trying to one up them or dunk on them does nothing but drag you into the miasma of their meaningless bickering.
This is something I need to remind myself of every now and then 😌
If I like trolling the trolls does that make me part of the problem or part of the solution?
Perhaps both. Does that balance it out?
Or at the very least don’t engage. I understand the temptation, and I sometimes can’t resist, but generally it’s not worth it.
I don’t really block much or at all. I’d rather see what they’re saying, but I have been online a long time as well, and have a thicker skin. If you are affected by online users to a detrimental degree there’s no shame in walking away, ignoring, or blocking.
Look out for yourself.
I only block when I know I am unable to resist the temptation to engage. And usually when I do finally block, I wish I’d done it much sooner.
I’ll generally argue with someone I disagree with online, and see if they’ll listen to reason. Maybe they’ll change their mind, or present new information or a perspective I haven’t considered and I’ll gain understanding and change my mind.
I only block people who are incapable of arguing in good faith.
After all, what’s the point of civic discourse if we’re all only talking to people we agree with? It’s just preaching to the choir, and creates epistemic bubbles.
After all, what’s the point of civic discourse if we’re all only talking to people we agree with? It’s just preaching to the choir, and creates epistemic bubbles.
I agree, but sometimes it becomes a matter of picking your battles.
That’s why I block people who demonstrate that they’re either incapable or unwilling to have a good faith discussion.
Of course it raises my blood pressure a bit in the meantime while I convince myself they’re not worth my time. Sometimes I’ll keep arguing until it reaches a dead end or goes in endless circles, just for the sake of anyone reading the comments. Not everyone has to go that far, of course. It’s quite annoying and gives me apoplexy at times.
How often do you think you reach such a point?
So far I’ve blocked six users and I only made my account 25 days ago. Unless there’s an infinite number of trolls like there is on reddit, the block rate should start leveling off once most of them are blocked.
If they’re just an asshole I just tag them with flair, so I can still see if they’re giving someone a hard time and I can come to the person’s defence.
I also block any .ml communities that pop up in my feed, so that probably cuts down on my encounters with tankies. I instance blocked lemmy.ml but that doesn’t stop them from showing up for some reason.
This is putting your fingers in your ears and hoping they go away. That doesn’t work with these fucks.
Thank you, I am so glad I’m not alone thinking this- I can’t help but notice that the people who are most vocal about this blocking/canceling/censoring bullshit are the most obnoxious, self serving, narcissistic, loud mouthed, opinionated fucks of them all. It plays straight into the fascists hands to exclude others from discourse, it literally is what breeds inter-group conflict and stifles constructive dialogue and thought.
If someone walks up to you on the street and stabs you, do you engage them in reasonable conversation or do you run away/have them arrested?
This is the internet version of that - there are some people you talk to, and some people you walk away from.
I think most reasonable people would fight back. But I guess that requires some amount of spine that certain people cannot muster.
Did you ever watch Back to The Future? Because I think you could learn a lot from Part III and the “he’s an arsehole” scene at the end. And from the scene with Needles and the rolls-royce.
Real life isn’t a movie.
You’re right, but the opposite extreme has been in effect as well where people on this site (and reddit, what’s left of twitter, etc) take the most niche twitter take or some random ass “Influencer” with a couple thou followers and absolutely blow them up by taking screenshots of their garbage and plastering it everywhere for rage based internet points.
I guess what I’m saying is pick your battles
This is a lesson i learnt on Dota. The game has far to many toxic players, or people giving up way too easily. I just started muting anyone the second they give the slightest hint of insulting a teammate. The vibes are so much better now.
There’s a big difference between a game and the open and free exchange of ideas on social media. If someone is actively harassing you, sure, but if you just keep muting anyone you don’t like or that disagrees with you, then you are definitely part of the problem and might as well just shut the curtains and lock yourself in your apartment and never speak to anyone ever again.
There is a bit of a difference between shutting out every other opinion on everything and taking some perhaps extreme steps to avoid having to deal with annoying people in a game famous for having a lot of annoying people.
Sushi is not giving people they consider to be toxic the time of day and it improved their life. You response it to take it out of context and tell them to lock themselves away.
When you are accusing someone of being “the problem” is your face being reflected back to you in the screen.
First off, punch fascists, don’t ignore them.
But a not insignificant part of why we are where we are right now is because of information bubbles that are created with social media, compounded by behaviour instead of talking it over in real life, people rage at each other on the internet.
people rage at each other on the internet.
I do not need to accept that behavior.
My user block list on Lemmy is much smaller, and grows at a slower rate, than my list on Reddit.
However, my community block list is growing fast here. Mostly, it’s foreign language comms I can’t read, though. That, and sportsball, cars, drugs, and games I’ll never play.
My block list gains new politics related communities every day
I havent blocked anyone yet, but i have started using the tag feature for “probable prick”. Mostly for people who’ve took 3 or 4 logical leaps to attack me instead of my point. Maybe its just something theyre super passionate about, maybe I didnt make the point well enough and gave the wrong impression.
If I see a “probable prick” going hard at someone for no good reason they’ll be blocked.
how does that work? That an idea I’d like to try.
Im using voyager, it might be different or unavailable in others, but click the user’s name to go to their post history bit, then theres 3 dots at the top-right and you can edit their tag there.
It just comes up with a little bit of text by their name with the tag you put. My first test with this was to put “ball fondler” on a random guy, and now I see him everywhere here.
I prefer to let them know that I laugh at their pathetic understanding of the world … and then block before getting an equally stupid response. Not only will it notify the 0.5% of the fools who are not either trolls or too stupid to understand things the chance to figure out their world view is wrong, but venting is important to maintain one’s mental health.
This exactly. If they were blind enough to think this stuff in the first place, no amount of debate is going to fix their TBI. Its about ridiculing their positions, socially shaming them, and revealing that they do not have a platform, and all of this is for the benefit of third party observers. I never argue with the fools, i argue for the lurkers of which there are many.
The Internet would be a better place if we all stopped feeding the trolls with our attention which is now money. Ignore and move on
I try and block all kinds of stuff. The ideal is that if I would be down-voting many things in a community I should just leave them in peace.
I agree with many people ITT that overuse of blocks could create echochambers, however I still think that blocks are an underused feature of social media. These days much online content is not designed for discourse, it is designed for engagement. Rage bait, over sensualisation, even trolls farming frustration for their hit of endorphins. These are the kinds of people (and content outlets in general) which should be blocked.
But to be clear, not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll, or trying to rage bait.
It’s called curating your community/feed.
By doing this, you get to shape it based on what you want, if you created an echo chamber, it’s because you WANTED an echo chamber.
Amen. Wise words.
My block list is formative, but what I love is that I can block ENTIRE INSTANCES. Holy shit, I don’t need pawb or blajah, or any of that .ml bullshit.
How do you block a whole instance? I have been blocking on a community by community basis.
If you are on the website, it’s in your settings down at the bottom. If you are using an app, it’s probably in there somewhere. I’m using Voyager and it has options to block whole instances.
I see that but I don’t see a way to change block instances. I just see what was already blocked.
The dropdown has a search in it. You can type the instance you want to block, and it will block it.Good list.
I wish there was a stronger form of instance blocking, one that would also block all the commenters from those instances.
Yeah, it would be awesome if you could essentially defederate yourself from certain instances.
Yeah, as I’ve gotten older I no longer harbor right wing politics or talking points. Police apologia? Blocked. Pro capitalist talking points? Go jump in the orphan grinder 5000. Billionaires are smarter, better people? To the salt mines. If you’re still arguing against progressive policies and ideals you’re not of use arguing, you’ve already chosen to disregard any evidence to the contrary.
