Our south American countries have those same immigrants you want to include. We don’t have white maga men here and the amount of crime and homicides of both men and women are through the roof.
Is that what you want to import?
I think they meant the side of the venn diagram that is exclusively migrants and not maga
Those are the same migrants that increase the crime rates of their own countries and want to escape the shit they help create and bring their shit behavior to civilized places and are unable to assimilate.
We don’t want them here and those loonies want them in their countries?
It doesn’t make sense.
I think you have a warped view of migrants. The majority are not criminals escaping convictions, most are economic migrants looking for financial stability
I live in the country where those migrants spawn. I could have been one but I decided the world abroad is as garbage as my own country but with prettier streets and civilization. I know the quite undesirable culture of my fellow countrymen.
You have no idea how much they ruin our own countries and they keep ruining it by teaching their kids their lowlife ghetto cultures, spawning corrupted politicians that keep the cancer growing and growing.
Again, there’s a disconnect in what you say with an implication that shit flows up. The corruption comes from the top, and trickles down. Those politicians aren’t children of farmers, they’re the children of elites sent to fancy boarding schools abroad.
Those politicians grew up in the same culture of parents that taught them it is a good idea to trample over everything in order to succeed.
South American politicians represent the citizens of their own rotten culture
Will you shut up and let this random white American who has never been there tell you how things really are in your own country ffs? Do you really think you know your country better than a guy who probably can’t even point it out on a map?! You’re ruining his savior complex!
(Obviously I’m just kidding and making fun of him, you’re cool lol.)
Why stop at age 50? Go all the way.
I assume (or at least, I hope) that they’re basing this on some kind of violent crime rate statistics, hence the cut-off.
The stats are way off, so I’m curious where they got those numbers.
My gut tells me “it was revealed to them in a dream”
It would be nice to include a source for posts like this, to help prevent it being labeled as propaganda if the numbers are legit.
There’s no way those numbers are legit.
Obviously not, even setting aside the claim that immigration would reduce violence against women, which is definitely not the case depending on which ethnoreligious group we’re talking about.
No, they are. It’s involves overlaying a few different data sets but most violent crime is committed by white men under 50.
Immigrants of any flavor have lower crime rates than natural born citizens. If you feel this is wrong, that’s yoir xenophobia and racism.
They didn’t say white men under 50, they said maga white men under 50, which is an even smaller group. And they commit 80% of violent crime? You’ve got to back that claim up with sources because I don’t believe the stat you said either. I have heard other data points that go strongly against this.
87% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Actually upon further parsing, the statement cannot be true as it a end result reduction.
So while removing them also removes their ability to be victims which does help quite a bit, to get to 80% white men alone would need to commit 90% of violent crimes. Its easier to hit 70%, since only about 60% would need to be from white men but then we still need to account for maga’s percentage. The raw numbers including white men of any political affiliation max out at around 60%
And statistics makes this all really hard just to describing, showing the math around it is a mess.
The statement can be made true by more carefully wording it. For example if it was demostic terrorism instead of violent crime. Which I’m going to pretend is where my confusion comes from because I’ve done the numbers on that one before and I recall it being around that range. I think there is something on ourworldindata for that one.
The part about children is impossible because a lot of women commit crimes against their own children.
My thoughts exactly. Political affiliation is not a statistical crime category collected by law enforcement, so I’d like to see the source behind these numbers as well.
Political affiliation may not be a statistical category collected by law enforcement (though I do question the veracity of that statement, but I don’t have the means or the time to dig into it), but we absolutely do have enough info on things like the political leanings of offenders and other similar data points to make confident claims about such data when talking about specific types of crime.
Not saying that I don’t absolutely want to see a source behind the claim as well, though. I don’t take any of these kinds of claims without some kind of data backing it up. Just that I do know that we can make some confident claims on the political leanings of those guilty of things like mass shootings, as mere seconds before Charlie Kirk was shot he was in the middle of arguing with a woman who was citing statistics on the number of people shot by trans people over the past decade in mass shootings compared to the number of people shot by conservative white men in mass shootings over the past decade (something like 5 to 437 if I remember correctly).
Is making an assumption that since most white males in that age range are maga and most white males have a higher rate of violent crime than the general population, those who are violent criminals are more lllelt to be maga. That is correlation and it is used all over in statistics.
Let’s just deport all MAGAts. They’re easily replaceable, seeing as how they’re worthless.
Then people will be standing in line for years to get in to this place. Oh man, sign me the fuck up.
Yeah but who would want them.
Mars, maybe.
i actually dont want them on mars; i feel like eventually theyd start launching missiles at us.
That’s a lot of math and engineering to make missiles from Mars to Earth. Have you seen the general education level of a typical MAGA?
I hear the ocean has a lot of open building space, just drop them in the middle and watch them try and pull their Atlantian empire up by the bootstraps.
A really big people maglev slingshot on the coast. Like a mile long and safely accelerates them at a 44 degree angle out into the ocean in a little chair.
“Everyone from any other country than the U.S. and people who claim to be on the same side of politics as me are morally, ethically, and functionally perfect in every way! Bad people only exist on the conservative side of U.S. politics!”
Fuck maga, and all that, but this is a pretty fucking brain-dead take.
We wouldn’t need to worry about gun control!
Every single MAGA dipshit I’ve interfaced with IRL, to a person, has been a shitstain of a human being. Most immigrants I’ve met have been super nice and work hard.
Immigrants > MAGAt Traitors
Ok, how do we do this. PS I’m a white male
Look fuck ICE, try them in court and hang them.
But this is an absurd statement.
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I for one would gladly trade Magatards for immigrants any day.
But let’s be real, which sane country would accept a horde of entitled, violent, lazy, self-righteous child-abusing cis white Christian males?
Probably easier to just go dump them out at sea.
Send them to Mars with Musk. Watch from satellite as they cannibalize themselves out of existence within a year.
I want you to take my life savings, and make this a reality. Live-streamed like the Truman show. I wanna see which oligarch comes out on top in the battle royale
Australia
A woman on Instagram made an excellent point. In the past few years in UK and Ireland, anti-immigration protests happened whenever children and women are attacked by immigrants. However, how come these same protesters don’t come out for female victims of domestic abuse or sexually assaulted? Oh yeah I know, because for them, they treat someone who looks different as being worse and held to different standards. It signals "only we can treat our women bad! Fuck off they’re ours, foreigners! Moreover, xenophobia is also a projection to bigots’ own insecurities. They look for someone deemed weaker to lash out to because they could not be anymore angrier and hateful to themselves. It is our lizard brain putting us on our leash and being enslaved to emotions.
Also some of these “protectors of women and girls” have convictions for domestic abuse. They were silent when a white mp was charged with sexual assault. They were silent when a white dj was charged with sexual assault. It’s nothing more than thinly veiled racism. We all know it. If reform Ltd do win the next election, the mask will be off.
Oof this thread is ripe for 13/52 trollposting 😬
As a white man, I agree
Yeah because outside of America there are no criminals, there is no crime, it’s just a complete paradise in the whole of the world, there’s no CJNG, CDS Los Zetas, Boko Haram, Vodou killing almost 200 elderly because "witchcraft,” none of that; there’s no countries with Sharia law that still stone women to death for being raped, noooo, and all those women’s trials totally have lawyers and are totally fair.
C’mon lmao. I don’t like Maga idiots either but they’re far from the only criminals in the world.
Yeah everywhere has criminals but it’s not picking people at random from other countries.
The type of people who want to migrate somewhere usually do not want to stir up trouble in their new home.
Yeah there’s nothing like MS-13, Sur 13 (Sureños), Cartel De Gulfo, Latin Kings, Nuestra Familia, Norteños, White Fence, Serbian Mafia, Russian Mafia, Italian Mafia (I think they’re done now due to RICO but still), Armenian Power, Tren de Aragua, Sun Yee On, 14k, Wo Hop To, Foochow Paul’s Green Dragons, Ping On, Ghost Shadows, Flying Dragons, Wah Ching, Black Dragons…
And I guess that the meme is also assuming the local gangs like Crips, Bloods, Piru, GDs and BDs, O Block, FYB, etc are all Trump supporters, which, I mean, wanna bet? I’ve got $10 right now that says they aren’t. Shouldn’t even be too hard to find out just make VladTV ask them.
(Side note, Asain gangs have the coolest names by far. And yes I’ve read/watched a lot about gangs, it’s actually pretty interesting stuff despite being, y’know, bad and whatnot.)
But then who would get all the DUIs? Checkmate libs!
Dodge Ram trucks just do that. They have FSDUI built in, so if no ones driving those it solves like three problems.
Our prison system will fail!
So you’re saying a side effect of this would be defunding the police
