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Fedora Silverblue (actually bluebuild building my own OS)
practically only if there’s a new release of a software I want to install (which zeroes out to approx all 2 months)
as someone who is a dev by trade I update/backup on fridays because I think it’s funny.
It’s always funny, until that one day where it isn’t
PC-LOAD-LETTER, wtf does that mean?!
It means you need more paper.
For those that don’t know:
PC = Printer Cartridge (the place where you put ink or paper for it to use)
Letter = 8 1/2 x 11 inch letter sized paper, which is similar to A4
So the message means to load letter sized paper in the printer cartridge, because the sensor says it is empty.
PC in this context stands for Paper Cassette, an old HP term for the paper tray.
When I am bored. A few times per month in winter. Once or twice per summer.
We are still talking about updates, right?
Yes, why?
Just to be sure
Are you sure?
sundays
My Debian trixie desktop system rotates /var/log/apt/history once a month. So over the past year:
$ zgrep upgrade /var/log/apt/history.log*gz|wc -l 25 $ ls /var/log/apt/history.log*gz|wc -l 12 $25 upgrades in 12 months. So about twice a month on average on that one.
I’ve set up unattended upgrades and forgot about updates, until I get a mail saying they happened.
Note that at least on Debian, the
unattended-upgradespackage only, by default, does security updates. While those are the most important ones, if you want various bugfixes and such, you probably do want to at least occasionally do an update yourself.On my laptop with LMDE, which is basically Debian, I’ve configured it to update everything. The only thing left out are flatpaks which I update when I remember.
I use Apdatifier for KDE and it checks every 180 minutes. If there are updates, I update.
Once a week usually, or when I have to reboot anyway.
when I have to reboot anyway.
I do the same, then you have these days: “Ok, I’ll run a quick update before reboot… Updating qt-webengine?, nooooooo”
If I’m bored and done with everything and can peacefully restart
My home PC, about once a week, or whenever I have to install new software. My work PC, about once a month because the nvidia driver takes fucking ages to update because of DKMS.
As for the servers under my professional care… it depends. Most of the servers that I made run Debian that I update three times a year whenever the downtime is acceptable for the university (spring break, late summer, early december) or if a CVE needs fixing (e.g. xz-utils). One internet-facing server that I inherited still runs Ubuntu 16.04 because some teachers can’t possibly live without some legacy software and will throw a tantrum if upgrading is even mentioned – that one gets zero updates, and I got the dean’s promise in writing that I wouldn’t be held responsible for it.
The big virtualization server still runs ESXi 6 because the university didn’t want to pay for a lifetime license when it was available, doesn’t want to pay for a subscription now, and doesn’t want the downtime required to fully migrate to Proxmox VE. So it gets no updates.
It’s fucking rough out here.
every 5 minutes sounds about right
On NixOS i do it monthly. My internet is bad and sometimes it takes me half a day to update, i don’t have time to do weekly
You can just do it in parts though?
If you have a flake.lock you can update it, start rebuilding (nixos-rebuild boot) and if it’s not done before shutdown you can just run that same command after the next boot and it will continue where it left of (minus a few packages it has to rebuild again).
My pc always updates to the latest lock whenever it is running, when I update my Nixos repository my pc will eventually follow without doing anything. The only thing to watch out for is changed configurations or build errors but for that you just have to check the logs every once in a while or set up some way to be notified of the failing rebuild command.
Holy shit I had no idea about this. Thank you so much!
I do use flakes yeah, and i didn’t know this; thanks, it’s a useful tip
Opensuse aeon - I don’t do anything. Package manager handles everything
I have a script I run daily (named
daily) that makes a timeshift backup, checks for updates from pacman, then checks for updates from the AUR. I’m very fond of it :]Does paru -Syu not also include pacman, or do you just prefer to do pacman first?
I’ve been using
yayfor years, and it is sufficient. First time I’ve heard of paru.Other than being written in rust, how does paru improve the experience of AUR wrapping?
Googling it, it just seems like yay but in rust and it shows PKGBUILD by default. Still cool to find alternative tools though
To be honest, it’s just what I’ve been using since I switched to Cachy half a year ago. There was no conscious decision made between yay or paru.
I think Go and Rust are both great languages, but there are apparently some speed benefits from using rust/paru. That’s not anything I can factually confirm, just what I’ve heard.
I doubt that speed in a package manager would depend greatly on programming language choice. A package manager downloads the repository index, evaluates your current environment, decides what packages you need and then downloads them. You may get minor speed improvements due to a more performing programming language, but we’re talking about milliseconds differences in a process that likely takes several minutes. I wouldn’t take that into account when choosing across options. Indeed speed can greatly vary across package managers, but that mainly depends on implementation; as such you may have a package manager implemented in a slower language that is faster than one implemented in a faster language.
If I have to choose a package manager, I wouldn’t even consider speed and rather evaluate functionality. I don’t know paru, I imagine it allows doing what yay allows doing and as such I’d be satisfied with either of them.
I like typing yay and getting updates.
I have never heard of paru until this very moment. I will look into it, thanks!
Heck yeah! I hope it helps simplify things!
This might be the first time my limited Linux knowledge has been helpful to an internet stranger. Feels good.
