• YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Wrong. I don’t know why Jay Hulme feels the need to lie but there is more than one gun store in Mexico.

    A quick look at Wikipedia clearly shows that there are actually two gun stores.

    • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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      2 years ago

      How is that supposed to work? The international community doesn’t pay for US infrastructure.

      The USA are a huge market for handguns and keep for example the European companies in business.

  • Lemminary@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Maybe per city? I know there’s one single gun shop where I live but not for the entire country? Lol

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      2 years ago

      Are there most likely small illegal shops? Absolutely. But he is correct. There is only one single legal firearms store in mexico city and is run by the military

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      2 years ago

      There are two in the whole country. Finding that odd shows a very Americanized view where gun are ubiquitous instead of controlled which is the exact point of this article.

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        Not American and I’m still baffled by that. I can think of two in my “small for US standards” city, in a country with less people than Mexico city, although most of their business is for sports and hunting.

        Ask for anything slightly large or automatic and they’ll laugh all the way to a cell.

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          Well even in the US it’s quite expensive and difficult to get an automatic weapon. But if you meant semiautomatic then yeah they’re everywhere.

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    2 years ago

    Accuracy of this post aside, would anyone be surprised if many of the cartel leaders are on a cia payroll?

    I am not alleging that to be any truth, but i would digest that information like a weather report claiming rain when you’re still soaking wet from having been outside.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      You hardly have to speculate.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

      Condor was formally created in November 1975, when Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet’s spy chief, Manuel Contreras, invited 50 intelligence officers from Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia, and Brazil to the Army War Academy in Santiago, Chile. The operation ended with the fall of the Argentine junta in 1983.

      …

      In 1980, Regional Security Officer James Blystone had met with an Argentine Intelligence Source. In the declassified memo, Blystone had asked about the disappearance for two Montoneros that had plans to travel from Mexico to Brazil to meet with other Montoneros. The Argentine Intelligence Source had explained that they had been taken and interrogated, and later contacted their Mexican and Brazilian counterparts for approval to conduct an operation to capture the other Montoneros that were expecting their arrival. Once they were under custody, they had utilized fake documents to check into their hotel to impersonate their presence and not alert any other Montoneros of their capture. They were imprisoned at Campo de Mayo

      The Mexican Connection of the Iran Contra Affair

      In what newspapers here are calling ‘‘the Mexican connection’’ to the Iran-contra affair, the Mexican political establishment and its right-wing opposition are trading charges that each has maintained improper contacts with American organizations supplying aid to anti-Sandinista forces in Nicaragua.

      Critics of the opposition National Action Party accused the party of treason after it was disclosed last month that a prominent party member met several times in Washington last year with Carl R. (Spitz) Channell, director of the National Endowment for the Preservation of Liberty.

      Mr. Channell recently pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the American Government by raising tax-deductible contributions for a purpose that was not deductible: buying arms for the contras. He was an associate of Lieut. Col. Oliver L. North, who developed the contra arms supply network while working for President Reagan’s National Security Council.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9rida_Initiative

      Some examples of Mexico’s paramilitary abuses at the time included the sexual assault and rape of dozens of female detainees by police in San Salvador Atenco, and the disappearances of dozens of teachers in the state of Oaxaca in 2006, as well as the killings of seven innocent bystanders, including the American journalist Brad Will by off-duty policemen. Almost half of Mexican police officers examined in 2008 failed background and security tests, a figure that rose to nearly 9 of 10 policemen in the border state of Baja California

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          Gunwalking (Wide Receiver/F&F) is at least allegedly intended to map firearm traffic for the purpose of orchestrating stings.

          I might argue the Republican scandalmongering was about shielding their deep state counterparts from being outed, rather than persecuting CIA linked gun trafficker assets in the ATF.

          But maybe I’m wrong. Maybe everybody is just stepping on one another’s dicks.

    • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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      They almost certainly are to some extent. That being said no cartel works for the CIA. The CIA isn’t nearly as good at espionage as some think.

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    Because screenshots of what someone said on social media aren’t journalism:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico

    Mexico has restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. It also takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

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      2 years ago

      So you’re saying it’s easier to get a gun in Mexico than a RTX 5000 GPU in the US

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        Yeah, but since the RTX 5000 doesn’t even exist, it’s no wonder

        • M137@lemmy.world
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          It definitely exists, why comment that and not take 5 seconds to look it up? It’s such a common thing and it’s just mind-boggling to me, don’t say shit if you haven’t even tried to verify it.

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              My local gun store is a guy with a pile of ammo the size of a minivan in his attic. He got a FFL collectors license or something, I don’t know the precise legalities, so he can build his own and get rare shit without having to, honestly I’m not sure whether he pays more tax now than he would have, but the paperwork has got to be worse. Maybe he has a paperwork fetish. That actually does sound like him.

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              Eh, if I’m in a situation I need to use my gun, the gun store is either defunct or I don’t care about federal law anymore.

        • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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          If I was living in the US, I’d definitely stock up on guns and ammo at this point. Not that it’ll help, when the fascists come for you, but at least I wouldn’t go down without a fight.

          • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
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            This is the one reason I’m happy Biden was in office. It gave everyone four more years to prepare. Marginalized communities were some of the heaviest buyers during that time. Small arms have been used to inflict losses on fascists since fascists became a thing. Disarmed groups are substantially more in danger than armed groups.

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    It’s by design.
    A lot of effort went into it and it’s a lot of effort to maintain such systems. You need PR along with movie studios, politicians on local, country, and global levels, lobbyists, para-gov agencies (like police unions), judges, etc. It’s a business full of people that do what they can to advance it.

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      Which is solved by … cartels? Private gun ownership? Terrorist/freedom-fighter groups?

      Warlords have monopolies on violence and even that is through terror, not actual power.

      The working class is just always so much larger than the ruling class (if it weren’t, there wouldn’t be an inequality problem to begin with).

      It’s just wrong to think that USA only supports righteous freedom fighters.

  • Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    What?

    Although there are no gunshops similar to the US, where you could go and buy a pistol, revolver, rifle, etc., there are still plenty of Hunting and Sporting Stores all around the country that can legally sell low caliber weapons and ammo to those with valid permit. Allowed calibers are .22, .25, .32 o .380 and .38 SPL.

    Its usually a few per big city and is tend to be visited by a small group of people that usually go to shooting ranges, have ranches or belongs to a hunting/shooting club.

    It’s not only one store LMAO 🤣

    Its common for people in rural areas to be a gun owner and rare for city dwellers to do so. Yet you can find people that inherited old guns.

    Since the 90’s, the Army has regular buy off campaigns to convince the people to get rid of their guns

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      Mexico only has one store that sells firearms, and its federally owned. I’m unsure if you can buy ammo outside of the federally controlled gun store, but I don’t believe you can, and there are DEFINITELY no firearm stores in the city. There are airgun shops, but that’s it. Im honestly not sure why you felt the need to comment this when its verifiably false, but my child will spread misinformation on the internet I guess

    • Death__BySnuSnu@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Sounds to me like someone should build a barrier of some sort to keep all those undesirables from the south out of their country.

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    Too fast, too furious…

    https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/world/americas/operation-fast-and-furious-fast-facts/index.html

    The craziest thing cartels buying guns in America and smuggling them into Mexico isnt that the US government was selling to people they thought were smugglers.

    It’s that the people at the gun store are doing the same shit people are doing all over the place.

    The used gun market is insane, I know a couple people that constantly buy new guns and sell them less than a year later. They don’t question why some person is willing to buy $200 over new price for a used gun.

    And the way the law is structured, that’s in their best interest.

    If a random person walks up and asks to buy a gun, you don’t have to ask any other questions as a “private seller” and since you can only get in trouble if you know that person can’t own a gun, the less questions the better.

    The “private sale” loophole makes every other gun law just a slight hassle to get around. But no one wants to actually close it.

    Edit:

    It also incentives those sales.

    No gun store will pay as much as someone who can’t buy from a gun store.

    So to make sure someone ends up with that can legally have it, the seller loses money.

  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Mexico doesn’t really check vehicles coming into the country either. That’s something they could start doing. I know I’ve only been stopped one time out of maybe 20 but granted I’m not transporting a firearm.

    Downvotes for the truth i guess. Obviously there’s way too many guns but if you don’t even check at the entrance then that’s definitely an area for improvement

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    Restrictive gun laws, but live in North America? Just hop on over to the Ugunted Guns of Agundica and get as many as you want!