• durably465@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Making everyone hate USA for peanuts. Priceless

    “There are some things money can’t buy; for everything else, there’s Mastercard”

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      4 months ago

      Germanys current economy ain’t great, tho. Been in a recession the last few years. And exports to China are shrinking as well.

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        4 months ago

        Is Germany’s economy based on exports to China? I feel like Germany’s problems, like other European countries, lie else where

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          Well, the US is going insane with tariffs, our gas delivering country is running amok in Ukraine and our biggest cars importer decided to build cars themselves. So… Yes… Things have changed.

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          Well, germanys economy is not solely reliant on exports to China, but they are significant nonetheless. Historically, we used to export a lot of cars to China, but ever since the EV boom german car manufacturers struggle because China heavily subsidizes its own car industry, making domestically produced cars much cheaper than the imported german ones. And technologically, China becomes ever more advanced so it increasingly doesn’t need to import engineering equipment/machinery from germany as well.

          But yeah, the decreasing exports are just one of many problems of germanys current economy.

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            4 months ago

            This is really informative, thanks for taking the time to reply.

            Of course, I am not kicking Germany as many countries find themselves in difficult times.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    And do understand:

    The world hates you

    Before most of the world hated you but the west sort of let your bullshit slide because the net avert outcome was great for them and fairly good for the rest of the world minus those countries being butt fucked by the US for reasons.

    Now? Everyone hates you, your now ex-allies included. This will not go back to normal again ever. The USA, as you’ve known it, is over. Resistance is futile, so to speak, as you’re now living in a fascist state that likely will nosedive into a fully blown dictatorship

    Whenever (between now and the next 100 or so years) the US recovers, nldo not expect the rest of the world to stand ready with their asses up so that you can go continue fucking everyone. Either the US completely rebuilds it’s political system from the ground up, jails those responsible for crimes committed in this past decade of trumpism, and switches to an actual democratic system, you can go fuck yourself and play with yourself because nobody will be playing with you ever again anytime soon

    And even if we will play with you, it will never again be the same. You had the world at your feet, people were pushing US economy just because, and you fucked it all up next you couldn’t keep your billionaires and racists in check.

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      Let me start by saying that as a person unlucky enough to be born in the shithole United States, I completely agree with you.

      But, I do not believe that the 2024 election was legitimate. So we the actual people may or may not be responsible. Just keep that possibility in mind, and know that it is no excuse for why this bullshit continues. It’s just my personal belief that the fascist oligarchs purchased this past election wholesale.

    • speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      Even a quick gloss over the history of relations between the USA and Latin/America/Middle East/South East Asia will inform anyone of what sort of horrors that country has been unleashing on the world for MANY decades.

      We hated you before Trump because you killed us, tortured us, and supported strongmen who did the same to us. What you are doing now is what you’ve always been doing, and what you will continue to do if given the chance. You will not stop until either the planet or all of us are dead.

      No, of course not all US citizens are to blame for Trump and his fascism, but the millions who were stomped under your boots all over the world and continue to suffer are innocent as well, and what was ever done for all those victims?

      Countless military dictatorships put in power with US support, peasants murdered to make way for gold mines and banana plantations, weddings cowardly drone bombed from above, torture carried out in Abu Gharaib. The terrorism has been relentless and never ending.

      Your corporations and your soldiers taught us all we ever wanted to know about your country. Do us all a favor and stay within your own borders. I hope you kill your internal fascism, I really do, but what I’m more concerned about is the external fascism the rest of the world has suffered at your hands.

      I have many good friends in the USA, but we all just can’t deal with that country, what it is now, and what it’s ALWAYS been. I’ve seen the destruction it has wrought with my own eyes. ICE is horrendous, but have you seen an entire town flattened by US munitions along with its civilians?

      As Derick Jensen wrote about the police, why do we hate the police? Because they hated us first.

      That sums up my thoughts about the relationship between the USA and the rest of the world.

  • Mister Neon@lemmy.world
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    I lost my job because of cuts in May. I haven’t been able to find full time employment since. I’m not sure I’m going to recover.

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        Everyone wants me to make sacrifices without ever lifting a finger to help me. I’m too busy upskilling, job hunting, and doing part time physical labor.

        I’ll tell you what you send me help with bills, my mortgage, or food then we’ll talk about me doing something you want me to do.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      both my brothers are in tech, one got laid of in '23 and stillhavnt found a job, although he is having a “personal crisis”. and the other has been put on a bench “indefinitely” since they are using a recruiting company, they took him off projects with APPLE.

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        I was a developer. I’ve been getting project management certifications to career pivot. I would like to go back to tech, but I’m gaining skills to leave the industry. I can’t survive another year without a full time job that pays moderately.

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    5 months ago

    it wasnt for nothing. it made stupid magats happy! and the world is now moving away from the usa as a trade partner.

    sO mUcH WiNniNg

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    5 months ago

    If the tariffs are paid for by other countries, why aren’t they like the 999%? That would surely add quintillions to the economy /s

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    4 months ago

    There has got to be a long German word for the feeling which is essentially incandescent fury but at the same time sorrow/pity.

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    If it helps any, we don’t hate Americans, by and large. We pity you. It’s your leaders we hate.

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      we never had anything but CENTER RIGHT parties, thats the biggest. and right wingers think there is an actual left in the USA.

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        The right are hard right and the left are fairly hard right.

        The US doesn’t have anything even approaching centre right, let alone left.

        The lack of a proper left is why most Americans can’t tell the difference between communism and socialism.

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        Although it would be extremely funny there’s very little reason for any other countries to actually do that. Although if you have a degree in a relevant science area you might be accepted.

        Perhaps you could pretend to be in a relationship with someone from a host country, a reverse green card plot.

  • Tiger666@lemmy.ca
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    How do you have a trade surplus in a consumer society? How do people not see how stupid the trade deficit excuse is? Are Americans that uneducated?

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    I can’t keep watching people act surprised about this.

    Trump’s administration is not trying to successfully accomplish anything. The sole and entire point is to hurt America at the behest of foreign interests. Making the world hate us is the point.

    • حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.online
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      Oh yeah it is the “foreign interests” harm you and not your own shit hole corrupt criminal settler society. You are doing this shit to yourselves because the US has always been an illegitimate genocidal settler society. You are the bad guys, stop blaming other people for your failures.

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        Well if you want to cast stones we learned it from corrupt criminal colonial Europeans who were doing it first. Europe is full of illegitimate genocidal settler societies. You are the bad guys. Stop blaming other people for your failures.

        Sounds pretty fucking stupid right?

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        Nuance. Two things can be true. We are doing this to ourselves, but not in a vacuum. And if you want to destroy a house, the best way isn’t to send a man with a hammer, it’s to give the kids inside a soccer ball and tell them their parents said “play ball!”

        Countless terrible groups and people have been set loose with their own individual agendas and goals, yes, but that’s as part of a greater plan whose only goal is to harm America and its interests and allies.

        There’s plenty of blame to share, I promise.

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          There is no nuance here. It is pure projection. Your shithole yank government is the one with military bases around the world and regularly destroy other countries. You are not being manipulated by Russia or foreign governments, you are being manipulated by American born and raised billionaire Nazi’s that are 100% pure American. Stop blaming other people for your failings. The idea that you are under attack is pure fiction cooked up by your literally evil masters to justify their horrific politics and violence. America’s interests are and have always been violence, exploitation and extraction.

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            There is no nuance here

            A statement wise and truthful people say all the time