• jaek@aussie.zone
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    7 months ago

    In other cultures, the word martyr carries very different meanings. These children’s families and communities consider them to be martyrs.

    In the context, I think its entirely appropriate to adopt language which reflects the cultural background of the victims, and it’s frankly quite insensitive of you to be quibbling over usages.

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      7 months ago

      It just English. Martyrs die willingly for their cause. These poor souls just die; they have not been given a choice. They are victims not martyrs

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        7 months ago

        It just English.

        Lol

        Martyrs die willingly for their cause

        Even taking the Roman Catholic definition (i.e where the word martyr comes from that’s completely wrong.

        They are victims not martyrs

        These two categories are not mutually exclusive.

        You come across as the sort of person that would berate a grieving parent for referring to their dead child as a “little angel”.

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          Hmm, https://www.britannica.com/topic/martyr – and other dictionaries disagree with you. It has to be a willing sacrifice.

          Berate? Why do you come to this conclusion? Does it matter to parents whether they call the child a “martyr” or a “victim”? In both cases the child is dead?

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            7 months ago

            [Britannica] and other dictionaries

            The fact that you don’t know the difference between a dictionary and an encyclopaedia suggests that you’re not exactly an authority on the matter.

            Here are some actual dictionary references:

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              7 months ago

              Encyclopedia example was answer on you remark about historical contents. And Cambridge directly contradict you, there is no victim there. OED marked that meaning as obsolete. Only webster prove your point.