I live in Austin TX and just saw this. Heading downtown now, cya there. Thanks OP
Well you are wrong I’m not from the US
Did you check?
Yeah, we don’t have states
Are you sure though? Sometimes we call them weird things like territories and allies. :)
Nope not it in croatia
Hold on, it says right here that Croatia is a member of NATO. I’m pretty sure that makes it an American state.
I’m just having fun with you. I have to laugh to keep from crying.
Did they check if they have a state capitol? They probably don’t need to if their country doesn’t have states.
Sounds like someone needs to start an anti-Trump protest in their country. It’s not like it’s not going to impact you, or like your local government is yet doing enough to adapt to what’s going to come.
Yeah, I don’t think that’ll have the impact you think it does. This is something we Americans need to handle ourselves, and not rely on the rest of the world to do for us.
Ugh, I really need to order some glasses. I’m blind as a bat without contacts but I’m also not trying to end up literally blind if the cops break out the tear gas (and Denver PD is still settling lawsuits from the 2020 protests, so I have zero faith in them to not escalate). Didn’t have “buy glasses to protest the rise of fascism” on my 2025 bingo card but I probably should’ve.
Online glasses places are pretty cheap and good quality, if you know your pupillary distance and your prescription isn’t complicated. ⭐Encouragement⭐
Unfortunately, I don’t, but I can get an exam pretty quickly, I think. My friend/coworker really needs glasses in general and I’ve been bugging her to go, so maybe this is a good way to get her to finally do it, too.
I’ve heard from some of my more active friends that none of the usual leaders or orgs they know of were a part of founding this and there’s some suspicion it was created by right wingers to collect data; can anyone speak to this?
Edit: It seems that this claim is likely being made (either maliciously or like in this case just stupidly :P) to suppress protest turnout.
What do you mean “to collect data”?
Attending a protest opens you up to people knowing you attended a protest. That’s pretty unfortunate yes, but why would this specific protest be different from any other one in that regard?
https://ssd.eff.org/module/attending-protest
Edit: Phrasing
I’m just echoing some suspicions I’ve heard from more knowledgeable friends and was asking, I don’t really know enough detail to have any opinion myself; sorry if it’s a silly question.
I’ve just heard that organizers coming out of it/ the Reddit accounts that originally elevated it seemed astroturfeyand there’s concern there, and I’ve seen some more paranoid ideas thrown around about it but idk
it seemed astroturfey
Fascinating. Can you ask your friends for more details? Surely for such an urgent concern, they’d be happy to share with you so you can pass on an important warning about it.
My suspicion of these “data collecting” / honey pot claims are that the claims themselves are suppression tactics
Ugh I hope not, if so it’s worked on at least a few people in my community and I apologize for helping it propagate with my comment here
Yes, that’s more or less exactly what I was hinting at.
Of course, I would never do something as badjacketing as accusing some other poster of posting vaguely anti-protest stuff that doesn’t make any sense, as some kind of deliberate astroturf, except that they seemed to feel totally comfortable accusing me of being “astroturfey” for posting the original thing.
You should absolutely be careful of your privacy at these events. But accusing one specific one of being a fake for “data collection” is totally strange.
I definitely didn’t intend to imply or accuse you of being astroturfey or anything else for that matter and I’m truly sorry it came off that way. It seems I should be much more careful in my wording. I did a bad job of paraphrasing something I heard about how the original Reddit accounts and lack of traditional organizers are a bit suspicious.
At the end of the day I think we’re all scared and trying to navigate a complex media ecosystem and it’s easy to make mistakes.
I genuinely have heard concerns from friends and was trying to check their veracity. It seems from what I’ve heard here that they are bogus and I’m grateful to the commenters who have pointed that out.
I added an edit to my original comment to try to make this clearer to anyone else who’s been fed the same misinformation as me and I’ll definitely share that with my community.
Which upcoming protests would your knowledgeable friends recommend going to instead?
I definitely will ask, that’s what I was trying to do with my original comment. It seems like it’s not a widely shared concern which I’m very glad to see.
I definitely don’t mean to discourage attendance or anything like that, I totally agree with you that as long as people are cautious about PII, etc. there shouldn’t be more risk here than at any other protest
Sure, let me know what the friends of yours who you heard this from say about it.
GET OUT THERE, STOP MAKING EXCUSES.
(For your protection read the EFF websites protest guide to keep yourself safe).
aweehh !! I have work!! and I love so much to slave away for my corporate slave masters !! bullshit.
it sure is convenient to have an excuse to let your country fall
This is way too obscure. Most people would need more time than this to plan I imagine. I’m only hearing about this today after being tuned into politics for months and I’d only realisticly be able to participate if I heard about this 2 weeks ago.
Yeah, true that. I’ve been hearing about a lot of things like this more or less the day of, which isn’t too convenient most of the time.
If it makes a difference, it seems likely to me that the protests in DC will keep happening on an ongoing basis until something happens to disperse them.
Yeah, I only found out two days ago. Unions usually get the word out weeks in advance for a strike, and that’s for people that are necessarily engaged in protesting those in power and (currently) have the protections to do so.
I’m not saying people shouldn’t try to go, but the expectation for turnout should be tempered accordingly.
Hopefully the next one gives people a lot more advanced notice.
Awful short notice. My state capital is 3 hours away and I have work.
There’s a protest at your work today.
No there isn’t
Fake news, not american
I was going to go but after spending almost an entire evening trying to find organizing information, I gave up and decided to sit this out.
There was no information on who was organizing this, who is backing it, and most importantly, who to contact. From an OPSEC standpoint, without a clear contact on who was organizing, it read like a false flag.
- website had no information outside of the event
- all POCs were “to be announced”
- website for my area was on carrd with only the image of the flyer
- all social media accounts are on techbro websites with no presence on mastodon or lemmy. Their bluesky account never directly answered the question of who was behind the account
I hope to God I’m wrong and hope that organizers are well intentioned but given our current political climate, I need to know who is putting this out there. I’m not the only one worried. Many others on Bluesky, reddit, Facebook, etc all raised concerns. One reply I read was “contact us on discord”.
Fuck. That.
There wasn’t even a link to their discord!!!
Edit: compare this to the protest happening in front of the Treasury
- clear organizer (Elizabeth Warren iirc – I stumbled across this yesterday and can’t seem to find the source) and promoted by other prominent Democrats
- shared publicly along Democrat official channels and accounts
- press notified and documented the event
Which upcoming protests would your friends recommend going to instead? Assuming that someone can’t travel to DC.
I hope to God I’m wrong and hope that organizers are well intentioned but given our current political climate, I need to know who is putting this out there
What might happen to someone who attended a not “well intentioned” protest, that wouldn’t happen to someone who attended a normal one?
Which upcoming protests would your friends recommend going to instead? Assuming that someone can’t travel to DC.
One that:
- organized by people you know or by organizations you trust
- organized by people who have “skin in the game” (i… people of color, LGBTQ+)
- organized by someone with a name that is searchable
- promoted by organizations within the opposition (e.g. Democrats, DNC, etc.)
As many of the above that can apply.
What might happen to someone who attended a not “well intentioned” protest, that wouldn’t happen to someone who attended a normal one?
If you end up going to a protest because “I want to do something” without doing any due diligence, you are placing your faith and trust to someone you do not know. If you arrive there, they may pretend to be a part of a leftist organization. You may end up trusting them more than you should, giving them more information than you should. If they are running the protest as a false flag and in bad faith, then you’ve given your private information to someone who intends you harm.
Best case scenario, the organizers don’t know what they are doing and are running the protest in good faith, but it also means they are new to this and don’t have good operational security.
Which upcoming protests would your friends recommend going to instead? Assuming that someone can’t travel to DC.
One that:
- organized by people you know or by organizations you trust
- organized by people who have “skin in the game” (i… people of color, LGBTQ+)
- organized by someone with a name that is searchable
- promoted by organizations within the opposition (e.g. Democrats, DNC, etc.)
As many of the above that can apply.
Such as? I’ve actually been looking for information on protests that are coming up, so that I can publicize them here, and have more than one day’s notice. What are some that are upcoming that I could spread the word about, that are good and trusted ones?
If you end up going to a protest because “I want to do something” without doing any due diligence, you are placing your faith and trust to someone you do not know. If you arrive there, they may pretend to be a part of a leftist organization. You may end up trusting them more than you should, giving them more information than you should. If they are running the protest as a false flag and in bad faith, then you’ve given your private information to someone who intends you harm.
Is it common for you that when you show up to a protest, people to start asking for your name and information about you? I have been to some protests and I have literally never had this happen or heard of this happening. Has it ever happened to you? Are you suggesting that the feds or somebody who doesn’t like protests, is creating new protests, so that they can then collect the information of anybody that shows up, and that they are not collecting the same information (or somehow unable to collect the same information) at real protests that happen, that they don’t like and want to punish people for taking part in?
The instant anything is posted on here it’s already been scraped. Know this. Act accordingly.
Some tips to help you out
- don’t take your phones to the protest
- if you take a burner, don’t take it home. buy it, and trash it at the protest.
- don’t take anything that could identify you as you
- superglue and baking soda on your fingerprints. don’t go crazy, just enough to make printing you impossible/difficult
- write any important phone numbers on your arm or ankle in permanent marker if you can’t remember them
- stuff a couple hundred dollars for bail in your shoe
- don’t give ANYONE your real name. don’t care how hot they are or how impassioned they are, just fucking don’t
- designate one trusted individual to come get you from jail. they are not to bring their phone, they should park at least 1/4 mile away and walk to get you(long enough to realize you’re being tailed by police).
Pay attention to your surroundings, specifically the movement of officers/agents. if they’re running you should be too. if there’s a large group marching or a wall marching, leave immediately and regroup.
ICE will be there. they will be picking people up. many of them not illegal. if you’re not white, wear makeup if you can get away with it. paint your face with state colors if need be. not a mask, so it shouldn’t be covered by “no-mask” states.
Know your rights. Bring the proof of your rights. Force them to acknowledge your rights.
Stream everything.
If you are picked up you will;
- go on a list
- be unlawfully monitored
- become a link in a larger web to ensnare organizers
You will now go dark for at least a month. No social media posts about the protests, no discussions about the protests, nothing. After that, it should be difficult to pair your online activity with your real world activities.
If you can’t make it to the protests, record the streams, share them online, pressure the public to demand answers for the crimes committed by the officers/agents.
One last thing.
There will undoubtedly be people there to provoke the protests. do not let them. once one incident of violence is determined all bets off and the police will become physically involved.
Trust no one, question everything, power to the people. 🫵
This message from a colleague will live here until the death of Lemmy
For further research here’s a great video on mutual aid.
Damn, this reads like a guide for protesting in Belarus. Hope your situation gets better.
It won’t get better if we sit on our asses. It’s also a guide for Lebanon or Israel or Syria or Russia…
I went to my local capitol protest today and it went peacefully. I was prepared for (and very much expecting) escalation. I wrote the ACLU phone number on my leg, left my phone at my girlfriend’s house, and carried pepper spray in my pocket. My gf and I (and a number of other people) wore medical masks. We also brought clear, full-face shields in our bag too, just in case.
The capitol and the police station were near each other; lots of cops drove by our crowd, but thankfully that’s the only interaction we had with them. But a lot of drivers, bicyclists, and other passers-by made noise in solidarity.
I should also probably note that I live in a blue state. I haven’t heard yet about the experience in red and purple states, but hopefully people will be sharing their stories soon.
One last thing - I’m glad you made the note about phones. Apparently some of the people at the protest reasoned, “I might get arrested, therefore I should bring my phone.” Then they were confused when I used the exact same reason to justify me not bringing my phone. Do people not realize that the police seizes a person’s belongings when they arrest them? Considering the way this administration is going, I wouldn’t be surprised if they rewrote the law to allow police to break into phones without a warrant. At the very least, they certainly won’t stop cops who do it unlawfully.
Happy you made it. Ours was small and uneventful except one person brought us all a bunch of pizzas which was cool for those that could eat cheese, I brought a big pack of hand warmers and a big caraffe of hot mint tea. It was pretty much just a lunch. None of the state reps came out, and there was no counter protest. Fliers were handed out for another protest soon. Hopefully others are seeing the attendance numbers and planning for more better organized protests.
I handed out the EFF protesting .pdf that I had printed out at work.
https://www.eff.org/files/2017/06/19/protest-one-sheet.pdf
It’s usually enough for most people.
Oh hey, we had someone handing out hand warmers too! She saw me and my girlfriend trading one pair of gloves between us and asked if we wanted a warmer. It was a sweet gesture, the kind of look-out-for-your-neighbor thing we were all there for.
I feel like the enemy started this so they then say “see nobody cares, nobody showed up” because we saw through their bullshit.
The lack of organizer info after a whole bunch of people have tried to find it is a huge red flag to me.
I was wrong. At least for my state. There was a huge protest in Denver yesterday.
We may have just hit the point where enough people are pissed off that a lot of organizing/motivating isn’t needed.
I’ll be at the next one, and I’m already planning how to comply and assist with a general strike in March. I have the teeniest hope that some momentum might be starting to resist these fuckers now in charge.
Definitely, and they can track the people that did show up as highly motivated.
I’m pretty interested to see how widely upvoted this is.
Not true, I don’t live in the US lol
Reminder anyone that you don’t know who approaches you and suggests illegal activity is a LEO plant.
This event would have faired a lot better if it had any sort of actual organization and a core team of organizers to answer questions and provide solid information. All of my friends who would have been interested in an event like this decided to avoid it because there just wasn’t enough information for it to not seem “sketchy,” and something so poorly organized was likely to only draw small groups of supporters, thus reducing the “safety in numbers” that protesters would greatly benefit from against a crowd of fascist police and anti-protesters.
All of my friends who would have been interested in an event like this decided to avoid it because there just wasn’t enough information for it to not seem “sketchy,”
Which upcoming protests would your friends recommend going to instead?
What might happen to someone who attended a “sketchy” protest, that wouldn’t happen to someone who attended a normal one?
Also… at noon during the work week? 😒
The news doesn’t cover what happens at 2pm on a Saturday unless there’s multiple bodies.
That part I think I understand. Capitol buildings tend to be kinda empty during the weekend.
To be fair thats the time when its most effective
