That’s not a good look, Donald.
Now I’m sincerely hoping it’s gonna be another TACO Tuesday and Trump wimps out at the last second like he always does.
How he hasn’t been 25th Amendmented yet is beyond me…
They’re waiting until the halfway point so Vance can have 2.5 terms.
If these are my last words on the public internet, I would like to say that Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt, while crossing the boundary of what can be considered tasteful, is a pretty funny series.
PASWG is an absolutely goated series. And somehow their script is less crass than the bullshit coming out of Trump’s mouth this Easter weekend.
Low key concerned he’s gonna try to use nukes tonight
Low key concerned he’s gonna try to use nukes tonight
Lets look at the repercussions of that;
Next day global stock markets drop to near zero, combine that with runs on all banks as everyone tries to get to cash at the same time.
All countries stop doing business or trade with US government and US companies.
All countries nationalize their own oil production and refuse to sell any to the US or the open market (if there even is one).
Global depression / famine follows lasting at least a decade, while other regional conflicts turn into full blown wars, dragging most other nearby countries into them (literal world war 3).
Im not sure why trump thinks threatening to destroy or nuke Iran will somehow stabilize the region or the globe, it will do the exact opposite
There are multiple accounts and articles indicating that orangeboi has wanted to throw some nukes around since the beginning of his first stint. And now all the adults and career professionals in places where they could stop him have been replaced with sycophants. So idk, man, feels like a lot more of a roll of the dice than it should be.
Also, why do people keep insisting that orangeboi is governed by any semblance of a rational framework? He’s not. He’s demonstrably not. Stop sanewashing this shit.
All countries stop doing business or trade with US government and US companies.
Not even a single country would do it. US is a bully that will never have any repercussions.
We buy too much shit for them to stop.
The bigger worry is nuclear retaliation.
I so hate the fact that the whole world is a hostage to one lunatic voted in by stupid people…
Americans have no civilization, they cant kill millenia old civilization, they are cowards.
but but but. burgers!
How’s he going to do that? Just more bullshit from the deranged imbecile. Just a clown clowning around.
The obvious fear is nukes. He has the authority to launch them, or to at least give the order to do so.
Scary stuff
He’s going to nuke them ,almost the same words were used moments before the hiroshima bombing
This is the first time I think someone’s gonna drop a nuke and that it can actually happen.
If the pedohitler really drops a nuke, it’s gonna be over for Iran but mostly for the US. Dropping a nuke is basically admitting they have lost not just the war but their own society.
Are fallout shelters going to make a comeback?
If a nuke is dropped it’s over for the world. Mutually assured destruction guarantees this.
MAD is when the other country can nuke you back. That doesn’t exist here. (As far as everyone knows.)
I don’t think Iran has nukes, and every other country will probably be very careful about dropping a nuke in the US. Maybe some rogue country would drop one to israel but I’m not sure this would happen becaues of MAD.
Russia is allied with Iran.
They would not risk an escalation over Iran that would hurt the Russian heartland.
That doesn’t mean they are under their nuclear umbrella. Russia will not sacrifice itself for Iran
I think Russia would sell any ally to Satan for a single piece of bubble gum, if it felt like blowing bubbles. But they wouldn’t let the crisis go to waste either, that’s for damn sure.
But while Putin is evil, he’s not Trump-levels of dumb, so he understands the risk of going nuclear against someone Trump-levels of dumb.
Yeah, but he’s old too. Might want to do it before he dies.
Who would fire back? Iran doesn’t have nukes.
Iran can however launch everything they have at the gulf states and israel, destroying all of their desalination plants and oil production and basically wiping them off the map and turbofucking the global economy into something worse than the great depression. They’ve been holding back so far, but if they get nuked they may as well just pull the trigger.
Hadn’t considered that. Doubt Trump has either.
Now look up how much of the world’s fertilizer comes from the middle east.
I don’t know, maybe Russia, China and if there is mass global destabilization India, Pakistan, and North Korea could get trigger happy.
China has pretty clearly shown they are staying out of it. I also doubt Russia would fire at America over Iran. Although I’d wager they would nuke Ukraine given that the US just normalized it.
You misunderstand MAD. That applies between nuclear states. No one will be rushing to launch retaliatory nukes on Iran’s behalf.
Still fucked, and who knows maybe they have something capable of hitting Israel
Not immediately with Iran, but even if it would be a singular nuclear strike without any reaction, it would cross maybe the only real red line that still exists in international relation; Russia might then use nukes in Ukraine, or China in Taiwan, even if only for the EMP or to sink a fleet of ships at once. It will cause a dam to break regarding the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
I’m with you on Russia but I don’t think the PLA would consider nuking Taiwan. They ideologically consider everyone on the island to be Chinese and they also certainly don’t want to blow it to ashes just to have to rebuild it from scratch.
IMO the wind is blowing toward a political reunification where China takes it without a shot. The opposition party is already pushing that and the US is not a stable or reliable enough ally at this point for them credibly rely on if China actually invades.
Not on the island but if the US now starts using tactical nukes in Iran, the nuclear power China would seriously consider its own tactical nuclear use cases - after all what’s the value in being a nuclear power if it’s a forgone conclusion that you won’t use them. Doubly so should the US prove it’s willingness to use tactical nukes now, as China would then need to expect that nukes might be used against them too, should it come to a military exchange with the US over Taiwan. It’s mutually assured destruction, but instead of destroying cities with ICBMs you sink each other’s aircraft carriers with smaller nukes.
Regarding Taiwan itself, I think there would be valid use cases, especially for the massive EMPs given off by nukes detonated in the atmosphere. They can disable an army of drones and most civilian communication systems all at once, which seems like a very solid first strike move if you don’t want to destroy the country but cause enough disruption to allow an invasion force to land.
I’m not a military strategist though, so no guarantees on any of this.
They consider Taiwan part of China. They would see nuking Taiwan as nuking their own left hand. Very unlikely.
No, the rest of the world isn’t just going to instantly nuke the US. If Iran gets nuked it won’t be via an ICBM but more likely a traditional aircraft or possibly ship launched nuke. Until it goes off it won’t look too much different from any of the other weapons being dropped on Iran. What it would do though is instantly turn the US into even more of a pariah than it already is. You’d likely see pretty much instant sanctions across the board which would tank the US economy, and might finally manage to get Trump impeached and convicted. Might even be able to convince the spineless bastards in Washington to hand Trump over to the ICC in exchange for lifting some of the sanctions.
Theres every reason to think the Russians would consider a nuclear trigger-happy US an existential threat to them and launch a pre emptive attack. After all, the US (through Ukraine) launched attacks on Russia’s strategic bombers and Putins nuclear bunker which would have been considered suicidal during the Cold War
If a nuclear weapon is used all bets are off.
Preemptive attacks don’t work when they will nuke you back. This is the principle behind Mutually Assured Destruction.
MAD assumes the other side is rational. Trump is a lunatic.
First you said Russia, not the US, would do a preemptive nuclear attack. So this isn’t about Trump, it’s about Putin.
Second, Russia wouldn’t do it because of MAD. That’s the whole concept of MAD.
You’re making no sense, so I think I’m gonna peace out.
One can dream.
How can they sanction us when global finance still overwhelmingly depends on the dollar though? It would certainly accelerate efforts to move to a new financial regime but it would still take years to accomplish.
Maybe mass dumping of US treasuries could be a feasible immediate option.
The move to a new financial regime would take as long as it takes a market to crash.
How can they sanction us when global finance still overwhelmingly depends on the dollar though?
The world has been gradually de-dollarizing for over a decade now. USD held as global currency reserves has fallen from 70% to 40%. BRICS nations are implementing their own payment systems based on the renminbi, and the eurozone obviously can operate independently already.
A lot of global value is tied up in US investment systems, sure. But a nuke drop would make that value not very valuable anymore. It would suck and the world would be stuck in another great depression, but the rest of the world has plenty of functional financial systems to keep moving on.
Someone does not know what he is talking about. This is not the 60’s.
Immediate global pariah. All agreements with a rogue nuclear state would immediately be voided. All trade ceases, all loans rescinded. Every US base would be evacuated and be blown up from afar by their host countries. The word American would become a synonym for murderer.
This is something everyone hopes for but will never happen.
European leadership will still be kissing “Daddy” Trumps little asshole even after nuking Iran. They haven’t shown any sign of resistance up until now, what is a few extra dead Iranians going to change for western leaders?
Its fucking disgusting, but the greatest risk to world peace seems to be western civilization.
Fuck USA Fuck Israel Fuck war
I don’t want it to be like that and I want to believe EU leaders would immediately ditch the US. But I fear you are right…
It’s one thing to be a unreliable, distasteful ally who at least has common enemies.
It’s another thing to be a bigger genocider than Stalin and Hitler combined and knowingly rolling the dice on the end of the world.
Europe knows the US sucks, but it’s better than the alternatives at the moment. Letting a nuke slide is not an acceptable alternative for any country in the world. The US would immediately be a common enemy of every country in the world, and even the most cynical, bootlicking neoliberal cannot go against that.
Or maybe the political class is just all lizard people and waiting for the moment to Kill The Poor.
Also the Russians would rightly be terrified they’d be next and could launch a pre emptive nuclear strike to decapitate the US and israel.
Why the downvotes?
Don’t give us too much hope!
(I’m pretty sure Russia doesn’t give a shit about Israel, and has nothing to fear from US, considering how friendly Trump is towards Putin)
That’s delusional. The EU would never stop trading with the US unless the US attack European mainland.
Their whole reaction to the war so far was making frowny faces.
I’m sure Trump’s spiritual advisor, Kid Rock, will talk him out of this once he’s briefed into the classified plans.
If I ever found myself saying “a whole civilization will die tonight if I don’t get my way”, I think I’d just kill myself. What an utterly disgusting thing to threaten. He is truly devoid of any humanity at this point.
Over on /conservative it’s Biden’s fault he has to annihilate a civilisation
Lol what pathetic assholes
He has a fucked up mind. The only thing he gets is getting his own way.
By that point you might need the ghost of christmas past to show a younger you your future
Nah at that point the ghost of Christmas past would say fuck it and tell the ghost of things to come to just take his unredeemable soul from his mortal coil
I’ll only negotiate with the ghost of christmas yet to come
That’s what you get with religious believers in power.
What are the odds he pushes the button?
Low (10-15%), which is still higher than in “normal” times. Truth is, the elites around him don’t want the world to end while there’s still something left in it for them to exploit. They’ll likely stop him in time if it ever comes to this point. However, it isn’t guaranteed.
That’s 10-15% too high
Well, looks like he TACOed in the end.
He did? How? Where?
Taco Tuesday
Real piece of shit.
Really impressed by the amount of USian protests against this insanity.
tell me again… what are you doing to protest?
Way to go, Trump. Now, no country will even think about helping you with your military adventurism, if you’re talking about dropping nukes or otherwise planning to murder scores of civilians.
