Summary
Sen. Bernie Sanders is touring Iowa and Nebraska to rally against “the oligarchy,” aiming to energize progressives rather than launch a 2028 presidential bid.
At 83, he seeks to shape the Democratic Party’s future, arguing it lost in 2024 by neglecting working-class voters.
He hopes to influence budget battles and the 2026 midterms, targeting GOP lawmakers in battleground districts.
With Democrats lacking clear leadership, Sanders’ prominence and focus on economic inequality could define the party’s direction in the Trump-Musk era.
I think usually Bernie means well, but I think Democratic party is far beyond saving. We will have no significant progress no less opposition to fascism, until they are gone.
Electoralism is largely a dead end under the duopoly.
Defeatism sucks.
It’s not defeatism, it’s an acknowledgment that we need to look beyond electoralism within the Dems. Mutual aid, dual power, direct action. If electoralism, build a grass roots infrastructure for a new third party or help an existing one rise.
Third party success won’t happen with just running someone for president every four years. It has to start at very local level, and engage with the public between elections.
This strategy is literally how you resolve that issue though. The Democratic Party is just a vehicle, it literally used to be a pro-slavery party. It can be remade just like Trump remade the Republican Party in his image. Bernie is doing exactly what needs to be done. It’s by no means the only strategy, but it is an important one to pursue.
Oh cool another wannabe gerontocrat
Cultivate an ideological successor please Bernie.
It’s not AOC, she’s a sell out.
I love Bernie and I admire his tenacity even at 83. But it is not nearly enough by a mile and we should not be relying on 83 year old to generate paradigm shifts. Please, for the love of God, other decent people with influence. Step up.
WE are those other decent people with influence.
If you have any ability, run for office and start your campaign now. If not, find a progressive running and join their campaign.
If the democratic party won’t do their jobs, we need to fucking do it for them.
The Democrats succession planning was/is terrible, which is why an 83 year old independent is one of the few that can rally a crowd. I wish they had done better.
In German class, in Arizona, my German teacher taught us teenage edgelords about Hitler. About his speeches. About his Charisma. He was a cult of personality. He could rally a crowd. If there aren’t videos comparing trump rallies to Hitler, I suggest you make you’re own comparison, and use your own judgment. There’s a reason fascism wins. Hate doesn’t prosper under progressives.
I have a friend who’s really into serial killers and cults, like, he’s listened to the recordings of the final moments of the Jamestown Massacre where you can hear them forcing the Flavor-Aid down people’s throats as the rest gasp and choke and die in the background, and he says that Trump sounds just like Jim Jones. From his speech patterns to the tone of his voice, it gives him chills just how alike they sound.
I have a friend who’s really into serial killers and cults
Yeah, uhhhh, keep an eye on that guy.
Jonestown, or as I just learned it was also called, the Peoples Temple Agricultural Project
Thanks, I have no idea why my phone auto corrected to James.
the democratic peoples republic of temple
Yeah, it’s not bad planning.
They continue actively keeping the progressives and the younger leaders out of power.
(This is about AOC, not Bernie, but we all know they did him dirty at least twice already.)
AoC has been highly visible in news and media so she’s also giving it a go. I think one of our real issues is that leadership wise Jefferies is alright but Shumer is downright depressing.
Over the next two years we’ll see a constant push by establishment dems to push out the progressives because centrist politicians on both sides want to keep a pro-corporate status quo.
I was higher on Jeffries until I heard him interviewed by John Stewart. He said a bunch of nothing just like the rest of the party.
AOC’s interview was significantly better.
From Jon’s podcast? Wasn’t that a horrible interview? Jon starts put saying “what’s the plan instead of just saying you have to get the message out” and Jeffries doubles down on “branding”.
Its really disheartening to see that bullshit gaslighting is still the MO of the Democrats going forward. Every word of that interview was more of the same old shit, and unfortunately Jon didn’t push back on him at all.
Yes it was a bad interview hence me saying he said a bunch of nothing.
She looks great, but is it worth risking more MAGA on America voting for a woman? A third time? They think they were radical voting for “the black man”. Voting a woman seams beyond America even if the other choice is Trump or not voting. God know what the state the world is going to be in by the time another US election is due, let alone if it’s allowed to happen and be remotely free and fair.
She looks great, but is it worth risking more MAGA on America voting for a woman? A third time?
Questions no one would be asking if she were a corporate ghoul.
I honestly don’t think it matters how great or not she is. I just don’t think America will vote for a woman yet. They prefer a rapist fashist narcissist.
I honestly don’t think it matters how great or not she is.
I honestly think that all the handwringing about a woman not being able to win is because the party hates AOC and everyone she stands for and will happily hold all women back to prevent her from being able to run.
Around the world, countries voted for change last year, not just America. Not necessarily good change, but people were unhappy and didn’t like the way things were. When Biden dropped out, there was massive excitement that maybe Kamala would offer good change, but eventually she promised more of the same.
I’m not saying sexism wasn’t a factor, it was. But it wasn’t the only factor. And Trump’s margin of victory wasn’t so large that we should just write off all women because Trump won against two women who allowed him to be the “change” candidate.
See from here in the UK, both women seams good enough and miles better than Trump. I think it says a lot about the US that both times they choose Trump over these clearly competent woman. The US just isn’t as socially progressive as Democratic leadership seam to think. I agree there was more than just misogynism going on, but it seams like it was a solid chunk of it.
See from here in the UK
Sorry UK, you’re very much in the same boat with us americans. Nothing an American or Brit says about politics will be taken seriously by anyone. A literal clown with a painted face would be taken more seriously than either of us.
Yer, Brexit is our Trump. It hurt us badly and continues to hurt us. We have a more grown up party in power now, but they dare not question Brexit as the popularists will jump on them if they do.
And Trump’s margin of victory wasn’t so large that we should just write off all women because Trump won against two women who allowed him to be the “change” candidate.
“Women can’t win” is an excuse to shut out AOC and nothing else.
Kamala’s biggest weakness was trying herself with Joe Biden. She should have taken a more radical approach and sweeping changes.
I would argue the biggest factor is the lack of a primary. Kamela didn’t get to prove her 2024 chops, along with not having nearly enough time to organize a campaign. Biden and his handlers really screwed the pooch.
What it really comes down to, though, is corporate donors. Never forget that most of the high democratic leadership are a feckless and dependent lot. Kamela, like the rest, listened to the demons.
I mean, not having a real platform beyond business as usual, ignoring the cost of living crisis, and expressing a commitment to continued genocide were particularly large factors.
Harris raised 50% more than Trump. It’s hard to pin this one solely on big money influence.
Harris raised 50% more than Trump.
That just tells me she was paid to take a dive.
Her messaging changed midway through her campaign, to one that was friendlier to a center-right disposition. She lost a good deal of her mojo because of that, since she became Biden v2.0. While obviously better than Trump, she was rejected for being more of the same. Many politicians across the globe felt a backlash in 2024 for not trying to rock the boat.
AOC is now old enough to run for president. I can see her running in 2028 and getting the grassroots support that Bernie enjoyed.
If anyone can get the youth out to vote she can. they need to focus hard on getting people registered though.
I also really REALLY hope she doesn’t campaign with a fucking Cheney
She’s another dnc sheepdog like Bernie.
So watch them run a pair of old white men, or find another member of the Clinton family that hasn’t had a go yet.
Kerry/Manchin.
Well if we cant get Chelsea Clintin we can tap Hunter Biden right.
On a more serious note though, I would be comfortable with Michelle Obama from the getgo if she ran. I dont think she’d be easily controlled by the party. She had no time for their bullshit even when Obama was leading the party.
She might be a popular option but she doesn’t want the job.
They’ll never allow AOC to win, just like they didn’t allow Bernie.
Looking at how shitty the democrats are now, they don’t have the ability to stop her.
She just needs to win the working class. There are far, far more of us than the elitist snobs currently running the show on both sides of the aisle.
In today’s political climate, I think that’s unfortunately true. It would take some drastic outreach, Obama levels of outreach and more, plus a ton of money to change peoples biases and opinions (again, as of today).
With enough support they won’t have the power to choose. It’s an uphill battle but one that we can win.
With enough support they won’t have the power to choose.
If there’s no primaries, no amount of support matters.
And if frogs had wings they wouldn’t bump their ass when they jumped.
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Granted the DNC “changed the rules” but are you forgetting the super-delegates overruling the majority votes in the primaries in 2016?
I also really REALLY hope she doesn’t campaign with a fucking Cheney
I thought I saw AOC calling out how bad an idea that was, back when Harris did it, so I don’t expect her to make the same mistake
“I think there’s plenty of people that aren’t happy about that, and I think that is part of the nature of putting together a coalition,” Ocasio-Cortez, who clashed with Cheney when they were both in the House, said.
“I don’t love it, but that doesn’t mean that we aren’t on the same team, and we aren’t on the same page when it comes to who is unequivocally the better candidate in order to win the presidential election.”
https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-liz-cheney-harris-campaign-trump-1976031
Aw shit, I hadn’t seen that.
Calling it out harder publicly during the election would have just made a Trump presidency more likely. It’s similar to how Sanders shut up after Hillary stole the primary and threw his full weight behind her train wreck or a campaign.
People who actually give a shit don’t want Trump to win and will do whatever they can to keep that from happening.
Yeah that played out great in 2016 and 2024…
Of course infighting is bad if it escalates. But candidates who are completely detached from reality, need a reality check.
If the Democrats hadn’t waited until Summer to acknowledge what everyone saw with their own eyes, Biden being mentally declined well past the point of doing another 4 years, they could have built a proper campaign with a properly primaried candidate. But the oligarchy doesnt want that, because then topics like cost of living, housing health care and US funded genocide become topics for the Democratic base too.
And after Biden came the trainwreck of the Harris campaign. No Charisma, no political character, embracing the oligarchs coming out in support of her and finally closing the coffin with fucking war criminals Cheneys.
My read on that statement is “I think this is a bad idea but in-fighting is the last thing we need right now if we want to avoid a Trump presidency.”
That’s my take as well
AOC is now old enough to run for president.
She was old enough during the last election as well.
aye, but there were no Democratic primaries in the last election
How about that.
The biggest hurdle for AOC is she’s a woman. She is an attractive woman, so that’s beneficial, but I think America has made it abundantly clear that we are happy being misogynistic assholes that can’t trust women with important decisions.
Gender has absolutely nothing to do with it. She is neoliberal garbage like the rest of the party
Can we pleas stop repeating this narrative? Hillary lost because she is an evil ghoul. Harris lost because she kept saying how she will continue the work of Biden who equally is an evil ghoul. And Harris invited Cheney to campaign with her, who is the father of evil ghouls in the 21. Century US politics.
There is countries more conservative than the US, where women have been Presidents, Prime Ministers and Chancellors.
Far right and Nazis also dont have an issue with women leaders any more when it comes to elections. Look at Le Pen in France, Meloni in Italy and Weidel in Germany. Ffs Weidel is the nazi candidate in Germany and she is in a lesbian marriage with an Asian immigrant and raises two adopted children.
Gender has nothing to do with Harris loss and this narrative is kept being peddled to not face why people are alienated by her political program, character and donors.
Notice how none of those are America? Evil ghouls but somehow evil men get voted in no problem? America well never vote in a Woman sorry.
You’re correct that Hilary was awful and Kamala was uninspiring, but that’s still glossing over the fact that they both lost to Donald Fucking Trump, and Kamala did so with the benefit of hindsight.
And she took that hindsight and ignored it
We told her how to win. She needed the working class. Instead she tried to win suburban wine moms and “sane” republicans.
America will vote for a woman if that woman doesn’t look down on them. Harris lost at that rally where she shouted down protesters with “I’m speaking”. She told us all she wasn’t listening.
Then maybe they shouldn’t have run awful people.
The party pilloried Sanders in 2020 because he allegedly said the same thing to Warren. Now, since the party doesn’t want to run AOC because they hate anyone to the left of Dick Goddamned Cheney now, suddenly the electorate isn’t ready for a woman? Fuck that. Democratic voters no longer want yet another status quo military industrial corpodem.
Repeat yourself.
They are more ok with women when those women are on their side.
I think this ignores just how uninspiring Hillary and Kamala were.
Neither really spoke to the working class
You’re correct that Hilary was awful and Kamala was uninspiring, but that’s still glossing over the fact that they both lost to Donald Fucking Trump, and Kamala did so with the benefit of hindsight.
Really just ctr+c/v’d your own comment, huh?
Yes?
You’re making me feel like I need to punch more sexists that I find. I’m really liking the idea of identifying as a fucking problem these days.
I personally would prefer a Bernie/AOC ticket, with Bernie giving a public contract that allows her to have him resigned if his mind starts going. IMO, it would be ideal if we could get 16 years of Bernie/AOC, and more if they can raise worthy successors.
Bernie will be 87 in 2028. Unfortunately i think Bernies chance at the presidency has been and gone. AOC/Walz would be nice. Walz proved him self to be likable in the Harris campaign but he doesn’t have the profile that AOC does despite arguably having more experience
Walz is the “Israel has the right to expand its borders” guy so you’d have to make him keep his mouth shut over Israel, but fair enough.
He ticks the old white guy box so the racists and sexists can feel okay voting for them while still being left enough to not be too much of a drag on the resulting administration
Jeffries is horribly corrupt and a total stooge for monied interests. Don’t let his PR team fool you.
But but but he rhymes at times like johnnie cochran when he’s on and rockin!
Surely, that makes up for being a corporate drone that helps keep status quo fascism in place.
Which is why he’s recruiting.
He’s not recruiting, he wants to drive working people and our movements back into the graveyard of the Democratic Party.
Please
Ok, good opener, I’m listening
for the love of God
Eh. Fuck that asshole sideways.
other decent people
We’re back on, yeah!
with influence.
Ah. That’s a no-go, sorry. Especially not in this fascist-breeding-pit climate…
Step up.
Hunh. Might be why the only guy stepping up is Bernie. He’s so old, he’s in Death’s phone contacts under “guy @ work”. 🙃
Democratic Socialists had a pretty serious recruiting campaign for the 2018 midterms. Cold-called potential candidates, offered training for both speechifying and organizing. Put up actual progressive candidates against incumbent dems in carefully chosen districts. That’s where “The Squad” came from.
Then they just kind of disappeared.
My point is that there are people out there willing to step up, but probably not thinking that they could be a “real” candidate and win, put up with the hassle and harrasment. People who would answer if called, but aren’t ready to jump in unasked. Bernie’s asking.
“Disappeared”? The Squad was literally targeted by the same fascists dismantling our nation this very moment (and those other cowards fired before them) until The Squad’s efforts were off the first few pages… and relegated to those who actually read (the Venn of that group and fans of The Squad is almost a single circle). FWIW, “disappeared” is exactly what the opposition prefers us to believe. Don’t.
Of the 5 current US reps with DSA history, DSA only endorsed 1 in 2024. They don’t even support AOC anymore. Maybe they’ve just refocused their efforts on state level races - which are definitely more ‘winnable’ and definitely an important part of building a pipeline to national office - but far less visible to people who don’t live in any targeted districts. To my view, they’re not the national joke that the Green party is, but they’re much harder to see than they were six years ago.
Fuck the Democrats™, in office or otherwise; they’re not your friends or neighbors, and have shown they’re capable of nothing more than jerking the ripcord when the Turd Reich yells “Pull!”
How many clays get launched before we legit recognize this isn’t just for practice? Sub-question: how many rounds would you guess before your “turn” down the slide, into the sky and their iron sights, fellow pigeon(s)?
✊🏼 The revolution may not be televised, but if anyone out there is waiting to catch the reaction vids first before forming an opinion? You’re not in traffic, you are the traffic. Pick a lane.
Unless the democratic party’s platform becomes deny the oligarchy access to the levers of power, defend the working and middle class against the billionaires, and depose those who would enact political violence via law or pen, I’m not interested.
So just let the republicans rule forever nice choice.
It’s hard to tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans. They both seem to embrace the same ideology.
No it isn’t.
Republicans are fascist, eugenicist, lead-addled dementia patients with no regard for human life outside their immediate families and even then only to the degree that they can be exploited. Their core values are narcissism and personal greed.
Democrats are performatively-compassionate cowards who are terrified of change and value avoiding conflict above anything else. Their core values are looking outwardly like they give a damn and not being yelled at by anybody.
The two are incredibly distinct from one another.
Fascism cannot rise on its own. Fascism is only possible with a weak, complicit liberal party. Their continual ratchet effect has enabled Our current level of fascism in this country.
Good News:
He’s not a Democrat
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a mother fucking duck. He talks one thing while asking us to support his good friends, the oligarchy.
right, the only person in washington trying to get money out of politics is for the oligarchy. the one person who brow beats against the oligarchy, is actually for the oligarchy. you’re a straight up moron, my dude.
Someone who talks about oligarchy and then tells us that we need to support his good oligarchy buddies is a tool.
I’m at my states Capitol protesting and it’s kind of scary how many Trump supporters have driven by. But make no mistake, most are not for him. Call your representatives and demand action today. Don’t wait.
Bahaha you cant rally progressives.
because liberals/the left are not a unified party.
Its 33 different parties in a trenchcoat, unified only by their opposition to the insanity coming out of the right wing.
The left and liberals are not even close to each other on the political scale. Liberals share more ideology with Republicans than they do leftists.
Cool, so we’re fucked then. It applies to the right as well but they make it work. But the left just comes up with excuses why we don’t even like each other
Unfortunately he’ll probably end up the first to go in front of the firing squad
What’s that line from the show Good Omens?
Don’t think of it as dying, think of it as beating the rush.
Probably Douglas Adam’s:
The Encyclopedia Galactica defines a robot as a mechanical apparatus designed to do the work of a man. The marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation defines a robot as "Your Plastic Pal Who’s Fun to Be With.” The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy defines the marketing devision of the Sirius Cybernetic Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who’ll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes…”
too little. too late. and for what? americans chose idiocracy. we need to respect their selfdemolishion. maybe all this evolution thing was a bit too fast for them so nature adjusts.
It’s a good thing all those carbon emissions and nuclear weapons stay in America.
I love how Americans, even in left-wing spaces like Lemmy, would rather threaten global destruction than show some goddamn humility for once.
How do you know OP is american?
How do you read that as a threat?
I’m an American that voted against Trump. I can show humility by saying this country not only fucked up, but is well on the path to crumbling into a big shitty hateful mess.
But the stuff about emissions and nuclear weapons is spot on. Our Republican controlled government is absolutely going to increase our emissions, and climate change is a global problem.
The nuclear weapons exist obviously, and if one of them gets launched towards any place for any reason, it is likely to mean the end of most of civilization.
For what it’s worth, I think the environmental consequences are guaranteed to happen (or at least, we are guaranteed to get worse and shift the burden to others), and the nuclear stuff is pretty unlikely.
Though unfortunately I could definitely see a goal of Trump’s compromisers being to start a war with the rest of NATO.
Tone won’t make it a self-demolition
At this point some Democrats need to splinter off with the simple litmus test of opposing the oligarchs.
This honestly isn’t a bad idea at this point. It would still take a ton of money, a ton of support, a ton of boots on the ground to achieve though. It would really need to snowball into a movement. Who are the superfriends of “Fuck you, pay Americans fairly” kind of politicians?
That much splintering won’t leave much tree remaining
What’s the point of saving a tree whose fruits are unpopular and the nutrition is lacking? It is common to fell trees that are past their fruiting prime to make way for a younger crop.
Worked for the Republicans?
The “splinter” of the Republicans was created on behalf of, backed by, and directly benefited the corporate oligarchy and their capital.
The splintering of the left to hold those same corporate oligarchs responsible — threatening their wealth and power — will not be backed by corporations or their capital. It will be ruthlessly attacked by them, and if the threat becomes more than just a fringe movement the response will be the full force of the fascist dictatorship, the propaganda machine, surveillance state/capitalism, and MIC (e.g. death camps, mass murder, etc).
But it should still happen, because the chance of success diminishes with every position fascists fill… If it doesn’t happen sooner than later it’ll probably never happen.
That’s the point…
cool, another 4 years of the heritage foundation picks then
How many Dems take corporate money and are doing fuck all right now? 90%+ is my guess. Heritage Foundation judges already happened and will keep happening. Keep supporting the establishment Dems 👍🏽
As someone in my 50s let me just tell you this - if you are over 40 and live in the US, you ain’t seeing normalcy in our government again in your lifetime. Mark my words. And if you are under 40, you might, but it’s gonna be a rough ride for awhile.
So if Democrats need to use this upcoming lengthy period of upheaval to come out of the other side with a party actually interested in resisting the fascists and the oligarchs, that can be the sliver lining to the decades of struggle that have now begun.
The sudden rush of tankies in the comments indicates to me that this is a strong enough move to make some oligarchs worried.
Is a tankie someone who blindly supports the military indistrial complex? Or is it someone who loves tank sized SUVs?
Yes
They’re blind apologists for the various left regimes that have identified themselves as leftist, anti-imperialist, anti-western, sometimes even including North Korea and Cambodia under Pol Pot. Often they align themselves with right-wing governments like modern Russia and Iran, because they’re against the geopolitical west.
The term was coined after the USSR rolled tanks into Hungary in the 50’s to squash pro (Socialist) democracy protests. Some leftists stuck with the Soviets as they matched into Hungary and Praugue, and others spoke out against what they saw as tyrannical repression of democracy.
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have done historically didnt exist\was okay.
More like “didn’t exist, but was okay even if it did” lol.
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What does this even mean?
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And then promptly gave those mailing lists to the DNC.
Not the person you responded to but, Bernie is great and we really need this kind of stuff right now. Unfortunately, he’s 83 years old. We could really use some new blood on the left.
I think that’s the point of this tour. He isn’t running for president. He’s trying to build a support base for a real alternative.
That’s presumably AOC but it’s still too early.
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The Democratic party, as it stands, is dead and the Greens are stillborn.
There’s nothing but hopes and prayers to support the idea that the Greens will ever get anywhere in the US. They have neither a policy platform nor any individuals who inspire broad support.
It is absolutely possible to take over parties from within though. We’ve seen it happen twice with the Republicans. They tried, and failed, to keep the Tea Party from taking over. Then they tried, and failed, to keep Trump from taking over.
History suggests we have a better chance getting AOC to take over and clean house with the Democrats than we do waiting for the Greens to make any headway.
Do note that the only reason the GOP was taken over was because they allowed themselves to be taken over. They run competitive primaries and take their results seriously even if it’ll result in the current party leadership losing power. The DNC is the exact opposite on that front, so just because it worked in the GOP doesn’t mean it’ll work in the DNC.
Maybe. “Allowed” suggested that they wanted or welcomed it.
A bunch of formerly powerful people in the Republican party are now much less powerful. Many of them have been sidelined in the Republican party and replaced. Several prominent former Republicans have effectively switched to the Democrats.
The Republicans and Democrats have differences in how they structure their organizations but neither one wants to intentionally allow outsiders to take over.
Jill Stein is a grifter
And owned by Putin.
The Green Party is tiny and has tinier primaries. It doesn’t have to be Stein.
Good point, to maintain our clear winning strategy, we need an old centrist. How about Schumer or Pelosi, right? Electing Pelosi would be good for the stock market, and her appointees (whoever donors want) could just run the place, just like Biden’s did.
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I’m commenting but also experimenting wether the /s is needed. I see I have +4 -1 with no /s right now with no /s. I think I’ll just watch to see how it unfolds.
Remember, this is for posterity, so be honest
edit: ok by not using a /s on your obvious snark, you will lose ~ 25% of readers.
Y’all have had your last election, you don’t need to do this anymore
Yeah really. It’s over for them. They let in the dictator now he’s not leaving.
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As much as I hate it … this country is too armed for that.
Before we have no election there will be a fight.
There have been a lot of opportunities to use those guns for what they are meant for and the only person brave enough to do it was luigi
We’ll have sham elections and most gun owners will fall for it.
and in four years when this shit is worse for the entire planet due to these fuck bags - there will be a ton of comments asking why Americans didn’t stand up to this stuff when if first showed it’s ugly head.
Best to plant a tree 20 years ago, second best time is now. The damage that is done can be contained to just America if there is an organized opposition and I’m hoping that Bernie starts it.
My point wasnt that it was hopeless, my point was that since America is no longer a democracy political campaigning is a thing of the past.
The only way to stop it now is to go full Luigi
I admire Bernie but most Trump supporters I met or know seem either very rich, or poor but quite believe he will turn things around and things getting worse before it gets better is ok. We are talking about cult, expecting them being rational is dead end.
The Bernie-Trump pipeline is a very real thing, surprisingly, so if and only if one is as progressive as Bernie or AOC there is value in such an endeavor.
Bernie Sanders has said ZERO about voting against RFK and Tulsi Gabbard. What a shame. I know there are a lot of Bernie and AOC dickriders on Lemmy but you all should know Tulsi getting shafted by Bernie really feels like a stab in the back to MANY of his 2016 supporters.
It’s like you haven’t done any critical thinking in a while.
The world is not what you think it is and you should consider adjusting your position to match.
The Russian agent? Yeah, totally
Bernie Sanders has said ZERO about voting against RFK and Tulsi gabbard
Thats just flatly not true. Bernie grilled the shit out of RFK where others on the committee gave him a pass, and then Bernie voted no on confirming him. https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/news-sanders-statement-on-voting-no-on-rfk-jr/
and if you google “bernie speaks against rfk” and “bernie speaks against tulsi gabbard” theres endless pages of results you can look through.
On Gabbard, he spoke for her in 2019, but then she then knelt before the maga throne because the dems were done with her. Since then Bernie voted against her confirmation and is against her.
Even after they have repeatedly backstabbed him, Bernie has always showed up for the dems like clockwork. He’s more reliable a dem voter than Biden and the dem centrists.
bernie speaks against tulsi gabbard
oh? link one. he’s said nothing.
I… already did in my previous comment, did you not see the convenient link?
There are no quotes in this article shill
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Voting against Tulsi and RFK are both the correct choices. I used to like Tulsi but folks were right about her in the long run just being an opportunist. RFK is not a serious person and shouldn’t be in charge of anything.
RFK is serious monster who should be locked up before he hurts more people.
PROTECT THIS MAN AT ALL COST
We’ll have to give him the Emperor of Mankind treatment if this continues.
I would love it if Bruva did several episodes featuring Bernie and AOC.
“I am not a(n)
godEmperor, and you shouldn’t want me to be one”-EoMBernie.
From what? Most of the attacks against him come from behind him.
From the DNC
Attacks? He is playing his role like AOC and the rest of them. The dems need these harmless larpers to pretend they have something progressive to offer. When it comes down to it, every time they vote for war, zionist genocide and endorses the big oligarch choices in his horrible party.
Anyone else remember years ago when all Democrats hated Bernie. But now that he toes the party line for four years, they love him.
