I don’t worry, I just don’t use Edge or Windows or any MS software really (except for Teams at work)
Teams at work
Same here. Boss still thinks he’s funny bashing Apple products as a MS fanboy 🙄
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trust is multiplicative, not additive
This is why gamers should reject kernel anti cheats. A single dev at a single company that requires one could read them as easily as any other file. I’m not exaggerating, unless I’m misinformed
Just use a separate boot for games
One that is not Windows, yes
I think instead I will choose to both A) not install a rootkit on my desktop B) avoid an OS that handles passwords in plaintext
You guys are using edge?
Edge is on my computer, and I can’t delete it, at least not with my limited IT experience. It’s buried deep in the operating system, and it opens up seemingly randomly, I use firefox.
Looking online about getting rid of it, others described it as cancer.
It’s not that hard, all you need is usb drive and choosing a distro (the hard step)
Not sure how it works in Win11 but historically it has not been possible to remove Internet Explorer or Edge from Windows.
I have refused the upgrade and I’m still on Windows 10 which also sucks by the way. The old 2013 ish operating system, I think windows 7, had a task manager that could actually help manage your computer even if you don’t know everything about a computer.
And so much more, everything is going to shit especially in electronics. We seriously need just a complete set of Open Source or otherwise trustworthy alternatives.
Or a way to wipe the programming off of products we buy and install our own programming, but they would make that illegal if that caught on.
Agreed.
I assume you have some good reason for running Win10 on your PC but just in case you do need to hear it, you can try Linux live from a USB drive and see if it works for you.
That is an anti-competitive practice and illegal in truth. Against the laws of the United states, the ones that aren’t enforced anymore.
The solution is to use Linux Mint.
I’m afraid as I am on my backup computer, and I worry that if I try to change over I will not do it correctly as has been the case every single time I’ve tried to download a program to accept zip files, or torrents I don’t know what my deal is.
I really do want to switch over, I am working on fixing my better computer. More than anything I want a graphene OS phone.
Good that you want to switch, take your time, don’t be afraid. There are many resources online for how to switch without accidentally deleting or losing access to things. I have been using Linux Mint for over a year now switching from Windows 10 and I haven’t run into any limitations or issues. It’s been a great learning experience and has overall lead to me being more technologically savvy. If you have any questions there are many places to discuss, feel free to ask.
This is sort of like saying “I leave my valuables in plain sight by my door because it has a lock on it and door locks are trustworthy.” I’m not super into cyber security and stuff but it seems like one of the most common problems is programs managing to get access to memory they shouldn’t have access to. It seems to happen all the time! Just like many locks for you door are trash.
It’s ridiculous. It presupposes that cybersecurity doesn’t value or employ defense in depth. Completely untrue.
Look at the attack vector researchers were trying to solve when they created OAuth2.0 w/ PKCE.
Defense in depth is a concept they teach you in cybersecurity 101. But that’s expensive and time consuming, so you end up with shit like this.
And yet you and most people use a door with a lock instead of something more secure because… in general they do work well for the purpose they’re trying to serve. Most criminals aren’t master criminals, and master criminals aren’t coming after your house.
Don’t overthink the metaphor. These things are fragile and fall apart. The “door with a lock” is the “guarantee” (wink wink) that the operating system won’t let programs see memory they shouldn’t be allowed to. Putting your valuables in a safe instead of sitting in the floor would be encrypting the passwords in memory in the metaphor.
Also, cyber security and physical security are very different. With cyber security you need to understand that there are orders of magnitude more people looking for simple problems. Like a criminal checking every door in the world automatically, just looking for ones that are unlocked. Someone not being a “target for master criminals” isn’t really applicable for this. Besides, that’s a critique of what level of security an individual should have, but pointing out the flaw in Edge is a critique of something that claims to be secure that isn’t.
fair
I extracted IE6 passwords from hundreds of people when I was 13, for fun. If passwords are now being stored plaintext again, they are going to leak. Some of the people who steal those passwords won’t be doing it just for fun.
to be honest passwords on their own are on their way out as a form of security entirely for this reason - they’re inherently weak no matter how they’re stored as they’re a single point of failure. we’re even moving on from 2 factor to passkeys.
Fuck Microslop Fuck windows 11
“Yeah totally secure! Just trust me!..” basically
This is LITERALLY isn’t secure; they should atleast make it encrypted. This is just the same as using your notes app as password manager! But it’s microsoft, and they’re willingly giving your bitlocker encryption key to the FBIs for your drives. So I’m not surprised…
I feel it may be worse than using your notes app.
A malicious attack doesn’t know which notes app, nor the filename.
This has every browser opening the exact same passwords.txt in root.
phew it’s an expected feature, thank goodness!!!
if they patch this, they should be dragged through the town square after that comment
It’s an expected feature for me too, in that I expect Microsoft to be fucking useless at everything lol
How can a company manage to be so bafflingly incompetent and why are there people out there still standing for it.
does this company intentionally want users to stop using it? cuz day by day either theres a new windows bug or just shittier softwares
The AI tells them this is fine, and we are not to question the AI.
I think it’s more than they just don’t care. Microsoft cornered the business world decades ago because they’ve got wot C-levels crave…or something. End users have no say in it.
Not to worry, the next update will fix it. (And make 12 others things worse. Also it will make your printer stop working. Again.)
as if it ever worked with windows anyway…lol…got it working on linux on the first try
@Itwasntme223 Retarded trade-based retard, retarding about retarded trade-based retarded society, about how it is retarding…
You doing alright over there, chief? Your profile text reads like somebody who really needs a wellness check.
People fill those out? lol
That profile is almost certainly AI based on the language patterns
AI is more coherent.
You’re right. Reads kinda like a page from Se7en.
… They are so bad
HOLY @#%^ WHAT IN THE @#%^ DO THEY MEAN “NOT TO WORRY”???
They mean that it won’t affect them.
Well, hold on now, maybe Microsoft has a reasonable explanation for how they actually do secure their passwords…
This is an expected feature of the application.
… Never mind.
Design choices in this area involve balancing performance, usability, and security
Nothing to do with usability since decrypting your passwords one by one is perfectly fine. So they are saying this is about performance ? Holy fuck…
They’re just doing what Copilot told them to!
How will the NSA spy on you if Microsoft doesn’t hand them your passwords?
