My only surprise is they didn’t add nurses and doctors after that show of force went down, state wide, in Oregon this year.
Don’t worry the Federal government will step … Oh they just crippled the agency that prevents this. How convenient.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/15/business/nlrb-trump-musk-workers/index.html
Isn’t that functionally banning unions altogether? Collective bargaining is the whole purpose of a union…
Not familiar with American union laws, but that’s protected federally is it not? (aside from the fact that this administration isn’t ‘protecting’ anything, let alone unions)
Correct!
Given the current political climate nothing is illegal.
Unless your not a ring kissing conservative.
If we can’t bargain legally I suppose we just need to remind them why they gave us a legal option for union organization in the first place.
There is a spectre haunting North America…
Before unions, it was the style at the time to go to the boss and ask for a raise by saying “hey boss, give us a raise, or we’ll burn your fucking factory down”
Just a reminder 🥰
Honestly surprised by cops being included in this. Wonder if that will bring major backlash in such a conservative state.
Narrator: it won’t. They are too far gone with the indoctrination. They’ll lament and get back in line, to cheer for the next one who got fucked that isn’t them
You forgot that they’ll also all go to Church on the weekend and tell each other what good people they are. Was it not Jesus who said, “No unions on my watch, pal.”
Wow…this is gonna make America so great…
That’s a good way to keep people out of a profession.
General strike from teachers, firefighters and police it is, then.
Don’t count on cops for solidarity, even with something this blatant.
Oh, wow.
That went after the cops, too.
That was really fucking stupid of them, you reward your foot soldiers just well enough to make them trust the system enough to defend it with their lives against their own class.
You let the cop “union” thrive and they’ll kick every teacher to death on their overtime pay with gusto.
Probably don’t have to pay them, they’ll do it for free.
What they want is not pay, but the ability of harassing minorities.
The ruling class forgets how the unions were the compromise to allow them to keep their heads attached to their bodies
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I don’t think they’ve forgotten. They’re just confident that the culture war trap they’ve built will keep us busy fighting amongst ourselves.
Americants won’t do anything about it
There are plenty of unsung heros.
Well, there was this one guy recently…
I feel like people forgot that this was the compromise.
If they’d like us to go back to dragging the boss out of his home in the middle of the night and beating him to death in front of his family I’m cool with that.
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I keep thinking of the scene in Far and Away where they torch the manor house.
That’s now how this works. Time to beat the Governor to death.
I love picturing this being said matter of factly from a husband to a spouse over morning coffee.
“Oh no, well that’s now how this works at all… Time to beat the Governor to death, dear. Well, off I go for the day, see you at dinner”
The police certainly had this coming, although I now feel very bad for firefighters and teachers in Utah
They’re going to privatise all three.
Yeah. Because limiting wage is gonna really improve the quality of candidates applying.
My opinion is that over time, some unions get too powerful and start getting unreasonable demands met. Then they need some kind of break up or what not. This would be a way to do that I suppose. Though there must be a better way. I think the police union has crossed over the tipping point. But I don’t think I would back this approach either.
Police departments don’t hire “quality candidates“. They use IQ and personality tests to keep smart people excluded from the job, and for good reason: they want brutal authoritarians who will follow orders without question.
Police are not exploited workers. They’re armed agents of the state who have far more power than the average citizen. Most other developed nations have completely banned police unions to prevent them from amassing too much power. And that’s exactly what they do here.
Post secondary education should be a requirement for all police positions. It’s pretty damn unlikely in the US for the exact reason you’ve mentioned, though.
I would say plenty of humanities and liberal arts secondary education.
Well, one win out of three isn’t bad for Utah :o
Unions, collective bargaining and striking were illegal, to begin with. People actually skipped work and meals to strike, form unions, and radically protest to give us these things. Before pto, unemployment insurance, and social safety nets existed.
Fucking strike anyway. What are they gonna do?
I agree with your sentiment but they know what will happen sadly. Back in 1981, Reagan fired all 11,353 air traffic controllers who were “illegally” striking. He also banned them for life from working for the Fed Govt.
The postal service is unable to legally strike. They struck in the 70s (?) illegally and got tons of concessions and no one went to prison for it. Seems like teachers could do something similar. We wouldn’t miss cops and, unfortunately, firefighters also wouldn’t be missed (we still love them, unlike cops).
I’m super pro union but your arguments are sloppy.
In 1981 Reagan fired and banned for life over 11,000 striking Air Traffic controllers. People sadly haven’t forgotten.
Without cops, what does a person assaulted or burgled do? How are the 20K+ murders a year investigated? Firefighters? They respond primarily to medical emergency. And about a million fire incidents a year.
The world stops without teachers working. Many people rely on them for childcare so that they can go to work. Air traffic controllers are very important. But many orders of magnitude less important for our economy than teachers.
We can discuss abolition of cops some other time, but we aren’t going to see eye to eye on this. They and firefighters are not on the critical path of daily capitalism like teachers though.
Cops rarely, if ever stop, or investigate crimes. Cops have single digit clearance rates for homicides.
Literally fire them all like Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers.
And then what? If you fire all a singular group listed above that’s striking (nurses, teachers, POLICE) who’s going to be there to pick up the reigns?
That’s the point, you bring it to a screeching halt and they then need to come to the table. But without the social safety nets other developed countries have, people here are reluctant to push back hard. There will eventually be a tipping point in my view in the future.
