For anyone that doesn’t know about Death Note it’s a fictional notebook from a death god. If you write someone’s name in it while picturing thier face they die. You can also manipulate thier actions and method of death to some extent.

Death note rules.

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    3 months ago

    Many who live deserve death. Many who have died deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be so eager to deal out death in judgment.

    I’d put it in a box and drop it in a river.

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      3 months ago

      “Some ask what right do i have kill them, those that know their nature will ask, what right do I have to let them live?”

      Some people are just legit evil. Ever see drowning Moana? Whole town celebrated her death.

      Throwing that away would risk someone unhinged like Light gets it. Better someone who isn’t getting off to being a god on borrowed powers.

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      3 months ago

      That’s pretty fucked up considering you’d probably write about someone you know but wouldn’t wish harm on.

      The rules are on the inside cover so I’d assume most people would check there for ownership and see its a death thing.

      • Wugmeister@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        3 months ago

        Tbh if i came across a notebook with a bunch of ominous bullshit on the inside cover, I’d assume it was a prop for V:TM or some other goth-ish ttrpg. And then promptly ignore the instructions until I notice people dying.

        And that’s assuming I don’t just rip out the instructions or glue a picture over it

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          That’s exactly what Light did in the anime. But anyone who touches the Death Note gains the ability to see the gods of death that normally hold the book. So Light believed it was a joke or a prop until the god of death introduced himself.

    • Landless2029@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      If that’s how you want to see it.

      I was browsing popular anime and saw Death Note and just felt like seeing what people respond with.

      I have my own thoughts and expectations of myself but wanted to see what others would do.

      So far only one person would kill for direct personal gain. Most would kill for “betterment” of a nation. The greater good so to speak.

      Murder is still murder.

      What about killing in a war? Is that murder?

      What about killing to stop/prevent war?

      Where do people draw the line. It seems like anonymous strangers here are more willing to end a life to “save lives.”

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    3 months ago

    A lot of people in the comments here are taking the high ground. “I wouldn’t use it. I’m not a killer. I’m better than that.”

    But by not using it you are even more of a killer. This is a trolley problem. If you pull the right switch one evil psychopathic murderer dies, if you don’t pull the switch thousands of their innocent victims die. If you have the power to make that decision then the responsibility for the deaths falls on your shoulders, whether it’s one death or thousands.

    So yeah, I’d use it. I’d start at the top of the psychopathic killer list and move down. I doubt I’d have to wonder when to stop. There are so many. But once they got the message I’d be more moderate and only use it when necessary.

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      3 months ago

      This is a smooth brain take. We are not omniscient. Admitting we cannot know the consequences of our actions and refusing to kill people extra judicially is not murder or evil.

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        3 months ago

        What do you think of the police response to the Uvalde school shooting? Was it justified for them to stand around and wait while Salvador Ramos was killing other students inside? Maybe they should have just asked him nicely to stop? What about Steven Paddock in Las Vegas? Or Omar Mateen in Orlando? Would you have stood by and watched while they were shooting people? Would you have thought “I can’t know how this will turn out so I’m going to let them continue.” Or, assuming it’s the only way to stop them, would you have killed them to save a large number of innocent lives?

        To make it even more clear, Omar Mateen started the trolley rolling. Would you pull the track switch so it runs over Omar Mateen? Or would you stand by and watch as it runs over 50 innocent people?

        This is a hypothetical question unrelated to whether you could do anything about it with a ‘death note’ book. I’m just curious to hear your thoughts.

        And just so you know, you can make your point without insulting someone.

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      The deaths would need some spectacle and consistency to send a message. That could probably be arranged but I wonder what method would be the most effective.

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        Kira/Light was thinking small. Targeting criminals already in jail is just vengeance. With a death note you have the power to reshape global politics and even all of society. Psychopaths/sociopaths often rise to top positions in business and government because they are good at deception, ruthless, and can shield themselves from the consequences of their actions. And from there their capacity to do harm to others can be immense. Luigi not only understood this, he had the courage of his convictions.

        Heh, maybe I’d give the death note to Luigi.

    • Landless2029@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      You leave Bill Gates alone

      Edit: I was going to delete it, but I’ll let it stand.
      I agree there are no good billionaires, but he’s mild in comparison.
      My thought is his death doesn’t really change anything. Dude retired AGES ago and doesn’t have his hand in anything.

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        Lol. He knows how to get off of the list. If anyone can donate fast enough to outrun a make believe magic book, he can.

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        I don’t care how much positive press he buys, he’s on the list. There are no good billionaires.

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          At least 95% of this wealth is going to donations when he dies and he’s not hoarding it like a dragon or burning the world down.

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            3 months ago

            Hoarding it until he dies is still hoarding it.

            There are no ethical billionaires because the act of hoarding a billion dollars is inherently unethical. Giving only some of it to charity is not enough to justify how much more damage was done in the first place.

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              There’s an old Indian story about a rich man who gives every beggar he sees a coin, until he has no more coins and is a beggar himself.

              How much good did that man do by frittering away his wealth? You’re surely familiar with the adage, “It takes money to make money.”

              Would you have a man like Gates blast out all his wealth, and then be unable to produce more to continue his philanthropy? Would you have him shut down his disease eradication and vaccination programs so as to not be an evil billionaire? Would that somehow clear his conscience? Or would it merely make you feel better?

              Some of you have the financial sophistication of sophomores. And by “some”, I mean you !missingno@fedia.io.

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                A billionaire would need to give a coin every second of his life for millions of years to deplete their fortune. The rich man of the story wasn’t rich enough, or was giving much more than a coin.

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                The problem is he’s only making money, even his “charitable” actions are made in the interest of creating an entire environment that is more exploitative by his investments.

                He did an AMA on reddit a few years ago, and when asked about his charitable ventures and investments, he mostly just made reference to teams of financiers doing “what they thought was best”.

                Maybe he’s doing what he thinks is best… but that doesn’t necessarily mean it is what’s best for most people.

                Frankly, his money would be best spent lobbying for progressive policies and funding candidates who fight for the working class. Everything else is a staying action at best, and “moral exploitation” at the least.

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                How many people did he have to step on to hoard a billion dollars in the first place? I would rather he never have become a billionaire.

                There are no ethical billionaires. Full stop.

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    3 months ago

    Nothing. Anyone who uses the Death note cannot go to heaven or hell. That would basically confirm the existence of heaven and hell. My understanding is that heaven is infinite. Nothing in this finite world would be worth risking infinity in paradise. I would take it, chat with a god of death, ask many questions, and then decline.

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      3 months ago
      Death Note ending spoilers

      The real reason the Death Note user can’t go to heaven or hell is because there is no heaven or hell to begin with. Ryuk was just trolling Light when he told him that’s the price to use the Death Note.

      So not using it won’t actually save your soul, because all souls become nothingness in the end no matter what.

    • Landless2029@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      Per the rules as written I’m going to say no. A person would have to go by a written name at the very least.

    • missingno@fedia.io
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      3 months ago

      You have to use the target’s real name. This is why Light couldn’t just kill “L”, being known only by a pseudonym kept him safe.

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      3 months ago

      Has to be their real name. In the case of those who had their names legally changed that’s something I’m not sure if the rules addressed.