Isn’t Signal still centralised? Why use it over Matrix? (genuine question)
It’s more private and secure, and it’s easier to use/recommend.
Matrix stores all metadata, and most all of it makes it’s way to the matrix.org (default instance) server and is subject to dragnet subpoenas. It’s also complicated to use, incredibly slow, and resource-intensive.
It is, but Signal and Matrix aren’t really all that similar. Matrix’s privacy is pretty atrocious. It stores tons of meta data about users all over the place. That’s the exact opposite of what Signal does.
yup. signal devs/servers have NO access at all to anything about the conversations.
Signal is person to person messaging with groups on the side (ala WhatsApp)
Matrix is groups with person to person on the side (ala Discord)
Ooh thanks that makes more sense
You use Simplex over Signal for improved privacy and no identifiers, not Matrix.
Signal is still very good though.
I think SimpleX is the currently the best chat app, with potential to be much more.
Matrix leaks a ton of metadata and for normal users the clients are still very much in the sucking phase. Signal being centralized changes nothing about its security when the freaking servers can’t see anything about the messages. It literally is the most secure way to communicate out there, period.
There’s some people trying to run messaging services over TOR, no idea if much is gained from it
Thanks; is leaking metadata just a consequence of the decentralized nature or is it something specific to how Matrix was made? Maybe I’ll try out Signal (I’ve been looking for some alternatives) but I don’t like how they’re based in America/5 Eyes, even if they are encrypted.
But yeah, that’s the thing, it doesn’t matter where it is based when there can’t be any information gleamed from it.
In terms of message security, but they could shut down the servers and disrupt the service for a while.
Because its a more user friendly experience. Your grandma can use it with no hustle. Matrix is more complicated UX and also much slower and buggier (at least if you use Element and matrix.org). Ive actually started to prefer Delta Chat over Matrix.
And yet, sadly, there are only like 5 people in my entire contact list who use it.
What a shame…
I think I remember him endorsing signal years ago which gave it at big boost at the time
I hope Signal doesnt end up getting outlawed in the US. Elon musk seems to be against it now, and he has a lot of power these days.
There’s a saying some of our american comrads have: come and take it
And when they come, oh boy do they roll over and give it to them.
That sounds more like free advertisement for Signal
“Our product is banned on twitter!”
Now if more is Americans would listen and move this platform.
Free speech!
Hey, that’s only for billionaires.
Absolutist… ish
It is a matter time before they try to get it banned.
The first step would probably be to try and revoke their tax exempt non profit status. But I’m confident the Signal Foundation would at that point just move to another jurisdiction. Maybe Canada, Switzerland or something like that.
Ahem excuse me you must mean the 51st state, or Switzerland, or something like that
Canada going to be 52nd state–after Greendland 😆😆 (just kidding)
Would Mexico and Panama be the 53rd and 54th then?
Man… I’m getting tired of this guy.
…only just now?
but for real, who is still using x? i thought it was just a bunch of mouth breather magas at this point.
Joking for real, or seriously for real? The vast majority of people that used twitter are still using twitter. This applies to users in the united states, of course, but it especially applies to those in the entire rest of the world, where elon’s shit largely hasn’t crossed the culture/language barrier, or doesn’t matter to people.
The people who unfortunately have to get government updates from the place. After Facebook became a pain, Twitter became (for a while, when you didn’t have to log in) a pretty decent way to update people on things like roadworks or weather warnings.
That’s still half the US population though.
Oddly, many reporters still do
Everyone who’s not a paranoid leftist uses X; I find current information about every subject I’m interested in seconds
You don’t find iinformation, you find hot takes. Xitter is a cesspool if you want to learn about anything.
You sound like the type of guy who drives a cybertruck and practices Elons “odd hand gesture” in your bedroom at night.
You sound like you’re about to lose your farm
Lol, Alex Jones style research. Using memes and headlines as news.
Wrong, the science community is slowly switching to bluesky
And a bunch of them are on mastodon
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you.
sounds like you do your own research
Great, free publicity for Signal!
That’s what I thought when I first saw this
They fear open source software because it is one of the only thing that threatens their technofascist hegemony.
This only further proves that we are investing in platforms that are chipping away at them.
So, basically, you can be 100% sure that he has the ability to read your messages on other platforms.
Free speech absolution guy who promotrd Signal not that long ago, only likes free speech (and most likely only signal) for me but not for thee
This is huge. But there’s such an onslaught of stuff coming it doesn’t get the attention needed
They are flooding the zone… The real crime is actually buried while fake news running distrations with bullshit
