Don’t suggest hobbies or human contact. It’s been suggested and it doesn’t work.
I have a job I don’t particularly hate nor like, some coworkers I get along with others are just morons, I go to work, then buy groceries, go home, eat, watch tv, go to bed. Rinse and repeat.
On my free days I do sport and watch pirated netflix. I don’t spend much money on clothing or media and save most of my paycheck. What for? I have no idea. I don’t eat out because I like cooking my own food and restaurants are expensive and the food is bland.
Everything is so expensive nowadays btw…
Most people bore me. I’m like an atheist monk.
I don’t want to kill myself or anybody fwiw. It’s like I don’t give a crap about anything or anyone and don’t see what’s the point of living.
I don’t want to travel because it costs money.
As soon as my cognitive abilities start to fail I’m going to be very easy prey for any online scammer.
Idk if you’d consider it a “hobby” (even though I’d say that has more consumerist connotations), but I’d strongly suggest finding a creative outlet. Personally I believe that there’s no such thing as an “uncreative” person, it’s just that most people never get the opportunity to learn a creatively rewarding skill well (and even when they do, many are left with no time/energy after work). It’s a catch-22. Still, unless you want to keep being a cog in the machine you gotta sacrifice something.
Also, art (in a general sense) is a lot better with human contact, idk what you’re talking about that is “doesn’t work”. You gotta find like-minded people. Sometimes you’re lucky and meet like-minded people by happenstance, sometimes you gotta go out of your way to find them (even if by saying it like that I still feel like I’m underplaying how hard that can be).
A final but perhaps more important suggestion is, learn about something. Instead of binging another tv show every week, mix it up with some educational internet browsing, or books, or perhaps you enjoy videoessays more. Again, an environment where you can meet people is better, but higher education has also turned into a human grinder that spits out ready-made workers for the machine so I can’t sincerely recommend it. But it could still be worth considering (depending on where you are… definitely not worth a 100k debt).
TL:DR find ways of satisfying your inner curiosity and creativity.
Volunteer, seriously, this changed my life. Maybe a dog rescue, or some political fight.
The best way to cheer yourself up is to try to cheer somebody else up. -Mark Twain
Sounds like depression. If you have some savings, it might be worth it to see a therapist to find out.
Hey, I just want to say that in case you did give therapists, SEVERAL times, a chance to be a solution, and they showed themselves to be charlatans, you may want to consider that they are absolutely not the end all be all that some people may sound them to be.
I don’t have the answer, but there are leads to follow still. Someone here was suggesting giving your time to help others. If possible, this may actually help. Or not… Then try something else. Just don’t think therapists know it all, because they sure as fuck don’t…
This needs to be said more. What if the therapist can’t help you? Even worse, what if they don’t understand you? Wouldn’t that make you feel even worse?
I have tried a couple therapists. With both, it was as if we were speaking different languages. Needlas to say, I stopped seeing them.
Sounds a therapist problem and not a therapy problem. Not that therapy is perfect nor always the solution, just that you didn’t receive any.
I can’t spend all my money searching for a therapist.
100% fair, that’s my current issue. Honestly it’s bullshit they even charge for the first session.
A therapist that claims to know it all or makes promises that they can help you (esp. Short term) is just a licensed grifter. Can that fucker and find one that gives a shit.
The most significant factor for success in therapy is that the therapist has a similar condition to yours and they’re engaging in therapies that worked for them. Next it’s important they look like you (share your demographic somehow). Your dedication comes immediately after that.
Do you drink or take other drugs? Those can make you feel empty.
I was actually going to suggest the opposite, I’ve heard taking shrooms can help people with depression and re-frame their life. I can’t recommend though, haven’t tried myself
Mushrooms are very dangerous. It’s recommended to take them only when you are facilitated by some kind of guide. Never do it alone or with frivolous friends.
Yeah you definitely want to be around supportive and emotionally reliable and safe people your first time. Set and setting are extremely important.
Also just dip your toes in. You don’t need to leave the planet. If the people you’re with are pushing you to take them in the first place they’re the wrong people.
Unless you have symptoms of schizophrenia or similar you’re pretty safe with those guidelines.
I have and I think it makes a lot of sense that psychedelics could potentially help with OP’s specific problem
LSD is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be. -Albert Hofmann
I’m would believe that’s true but I mean frequently taking drugs of any kind typically makes one feel bad, especially alcohol.
I was super interested in that and LSD but never tried them. Someone once said to me that from a Buddhist perspective they’re not helpful because they provide a one time view rather than a continual shift in mindset.
Someone once said to me that from a Buddhist perspective they’re not helpful because they provide a one time view rather than a continual shift in mindset.
That’s true, but you can take that experience and apply it to sober life. You don’t need to take acid all the time to appreciate psychedelia, but a few trips help broaden the horizon so to speak. My memories of psychedelic experiences sometimes return to me quite vividly when floating in a float tank.
Thanks for sharing! That’s cool. I wonder why specifically in the tank?
Maybe I should reword it that similar experiences in meditation can be had naturally, whenever and for as long as one wishes.
That said, I haven’t experienced either. Float tank was fun though.
I think probably because there’s no sensory input and I’m just there floating in the darkness with only my breathing and heartbeat. It’s not like the whole time I’m in the tank I’m tripping, but I have had some psychedelic adjacent experiences. Not so much the visual and auditory hallucinations, but rather the psychedelic thoughts. Pondering the nature of my existence, fleeting moments of feeling cosmic and eternal, that sorta thing.
I wouldn’t recommend psychedelics to everyone but I’m glad I’ve dabbled. Those in a stable mental state would probably have a worthwhile experience eating some shrooms and sitting down in the woods.
Comparing alcohol to psychedelics is wiiiiild. Psychedelics changed my life. Alcohol mostly just makes me sad and sleepy. Occasionally giggly, at best.
As you can read I didn’t compare them other than using both words in the same comment, lol
You’re right, but I wasn’t being argumentative, just fyi. My intention was to say, “If you’re thinking of them as at all similar, PLEASE DON’T.” You should totally give psychedelics a try if/when it works for you, because they’re nothing even remotely comparable to a buzz, or being very drunk, or adderall, or weed (okay, POTENTIALLY mildly similar, but rarely, at least for me), etc. It was just intended to share my own experience with the two and how they compare, since you noted you’d only tried the one. But I do see how it could’ve come across. Wasn’t trying to be smarmy and corrective.
I’m sorry misread your tone then and replied such. Thanks for clarifying
Nah, you’re good. I get how you took it like that.
lsd, ketamine and others arent like regular drugs. many people arent the same person after taking them, even if its subtle. theres an odd experience where when youre coming down you never actually know when its ‘over’.
That’s an interesting point
Therapy.
Spend your money, travel, get outside your comfort zone and challenge yourself. Or get professional help.
*And/or
There is no point to living. For every single reason someone found, someone else doesn’t care about that at all. If there is a point to living, we haven’t found it yet.
That said. Try self-improvement. Read about psychology. Analyze your own mind. You might find some stuff pointing you towards something.
For example. Why do you say “I save most of my paycheck. What for? I have no idea” and “I don’t want to travel because it costs money” just a few sentences apart? This doesn’t make any sense. You save money for nothing yet you don’t travel because it costs money? To me, this suggests some conditioning you’re a victim of, something like just following some predefined set of rules because someone (probably parents) once said “you should be saving money” and “you should not spend money on unnecessary things”. But these are just arbitrary beliefs. You don’t have to follow them.
Or. Are you afraid of something? But kinda would like to do it if it wasn’t scary? Go do it. What have you got to lose? Nothing matters anyway, right?
You might just notice if you do these two things, there is actually stuff to live for, you just haven’t found it because you either had social conditioning or fear that stopped you from it.
I sometimes feel this as well. Without my family, my hobbies, my job, and my vices I’m totally empty, and I do have a religion.
I’m like an atheist monk.
you might be having SzPD. I’m not saying that but you might think about it.
I don’t want to travel because it costs money.
I don’t spend much money on clothing or media and save most of my paycheck.
then why don’t you use some of those to travel? There are ways to travel less expensively. I had a phase like this when I was a college kid and I saved up the small scholarship (much less than an actual job) and travelled, which did something that depression meds couldn’t do then. ymmv though.
Looking at what you’ve written here, it seems like you don’t actually have a hobby. I would have a go at something you did when you were a kid- maybe you were really into books, maybe you were into cycling, painting, whatever really. But don’t just try it a few times then give up if it doesn’t feel how you want it to feel, try turning it into a project. For example, I wanted to get back into reading books, but I just didn’t enjoy it. So I tried to find out what made me love reading so much as a kid, then recreate that in the present. I tried reading late at night, by the light of a lamppost like I did when I was super into books, and that brought back the enjoyment I used to have. You don’t have to go down that route, the main idea here is to find a new hobby, something to look forward to rather than just existing for the sake of it.
Holy shit…if you were a woman you’d be wife material.
Weak mindset. True sigmas know wife is a gender neutral term.
Get a dog and pamper it.
Could it be depression?
Anyways, would you be able to recall at the end of the day something nice that happened to you, even if small? Gratefulness is my personal path to inner peace doesn’t matter if big or small. And even if you decide to not take this path, you can use the memory of that good moment to 1 make it happen more often, or 2 invest your time/thoughts to make it even better next time it happens or 3 follow up and build on top of it.
The hobbies are being suggested because you clearly need a new element to spice up your life. Tbh i always felt the same way as you did, barely satisfied by what life has to offer. My answer to this is distraction, i cannot really sell you on why its the answer its just that deep down I know that novelty is the only aspect of life that has the potential to enrich it. Pick a new source of distraction that offers bottomless rabbitholes.
Life has no point, you’re just energy given form (literally, not metaphorically or superstitiously or some shit, mass and energy are the same thing)
Hedonism is easy to fall into, and arguably fine, if you don’t find life worth living but can’t muster the enthusiasm to end it, you should try to change your environment.
For me, life is worth living for stories, I love books and the experience of being something different for a time. I have built my life around lazy evenings on the sofa with my cat on my lap reading a book, or playing a comfortable game, nothing else matters to me at all. It’s easy to be content if your requirements are minimal.
Life is an odd phenomenon, we’re blessed or cursed with consciousness, may as well do something you enjoy. If you don’t know what you enjoy then try more stuff.
