• angrystego@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I’m having this when it comes to the movie Casablanca. Everyone is like “oh, what a timeless romance”, and all I see is a bromance of two guys who won’t let women go to safety with their families unless they sleep with them.

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    MrBeast before 2024. Everyone seemed to be pretty enthusiastic about the guy’s content and I don’t recall him attracting too much drama before the Dawson situation.

    Which is something I just couldn’t compell. A guy who’s content is so extremely materialistic became a symbol of le reddit wholesomeness. Basically all his content is just him being a feudal lord sitting on a high horse, throwing money at peasants performing humiliating acts to his amusement.

    Fucking disgusting.

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    2 months ago

    I was so scared this was a meta meme about something bad with my guy Cillian cause he has immaculate vibes

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    Oh shit you’re gonna have a bad time, you can’t say anything credible to warn people, and if they do something antisocial or whatever all you got is empty “told you so” based on vibes

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      For sure, I’ve definitely ran into a few people that just came off as too friendly in a way that seemed, idk, shallow and cocky I guess. Think Hank Scorpio but not necessarily with the money. And sometimes I’m pretty much right, they’re just jerks that like the “good guy” aesthetic but abandon it at the first sign of somebody not buying it, but other times they’ve turned out to be good and genuinely really friendly people. So I try not to judge too quickly.

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        Not judging quickly is harder than most of us realize. Our brains are built to judge quickly. We aren’t scientific and logical by nature, slowly building evidence until we reach a conclusion. Our brains are shortcut machines and will leap straight to what they think is the likeliest answer. And throughout evolution this served us well because big brains are very resource intensive so they literally can’t brute force everything. Intuition and shortcuts are the name of the game, and judgments just have to be “good enough” not complete, accurate, and fair.

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          You mean the only good billionaire?

          Sure he sized the eastern seaboard, but he cared deeply about his employees physical and mental wellbeing. Also took on the US government with a flamethrower.

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      The reality is that most of us are not perfect and someone highly suspicious can always hold us under a microscope and find flaws, which may be taken as evidence of malfeasance.

      About 1% of the people I meet seem to immediately dislike me and interpret everything I do in some negative way. Most of the time I don’t even know about it because I’m not doing anything overt which they will confront me about. But they harbor a secret hatred until finally some mutual friend tells me about it. “That guy really hates your guts - I don’t know why.”

      I’ve just accepted that this is a thing that happens. Something in their first impression strikes them wrong and every single thing to follow that is stained by it. There’s room for interpretation in all things.

      I wouldn’t say I’m very good looking but I think I’ve been lucky with where I landed on the attractiveness spectrum. And this helps with most people’s impressions. But for some, it’s an immediate strike. You can say any little thing and because they perceive you as a “pretty boy” they will perceive you as arrogant / full of yourself, speaking with too much confidence and not even saying anything that brilliant. Others who don’t have this weird lens will just nod at what you say and this person will think “look how he’s fooled them all!”

      It all depends on whether you’re looking at the person in a positive way, neutral way, or negative way. Go looking for things to hate and you will find them.

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        You probably have a ‘serious’ defauit look that a lot of people consider intense and read as angry. I had to practice seeming warmer and welcoming when meeting people for the first time by being aware of how I feel and trying to think of how friendly I would want someone to be and emulating that. Like getting practice at public speaking it seems to have worked out pretty well.

        Looks do have an impact, but a lot less than the vibe one gives off. If you have internalized looks as being so important it can lead to giving off a resentful vibe.

  • Wataba@sh.itjust.works
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    I hated Kevin Spacey from the start. He always looked like a creep to me, and American Beauty seemed like a blatant boast of that.

    Of course, it didn’t quite go the way I was thinking. But still, every time I saw people getting hyped, particularly around House of Cards, I was getting a repulsive sensation.

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      I suspect that’s exactly why he became famous. He feels like someone you should hate, affable at first but there’s just something off, so you watch for it and his characters eventually display it.

      I wonder if allegations against him were dismissed simply because he played that kind of character, and people assumed it was a character and not Spacy himself being the character he’s best at playing.

      Or perhaps the characters he played eventually bled into the actor and he became that kind of person. That also seems to happen to actors over time.

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    Is it vibes if they’ve already done something shitty and people just ignore it until it happens to them?

    I’m still messed up from what a certain someone did to me in high school, and it’s taken her slowly treated the rest of our mutuals the same one by one for each of them to reach the same conclusion that I had back then. Except some of them deciding that they still want her in their life for whatever reason. People seem to have this weird idea that they can manage her or deal with her to prevent her from hurting them.

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            Well, around the same time in the sense that Boomers and Millennials were around the same time. Liberace was 39 and had renovations before Jackson was born.

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              Liberace had his first major plastic surgery in 1979. Jackson first rhinoplasty was in the same year.

              Liberace wanted to look the same. He was mostly anti-aging, until he started changing other people to look like him.

              Jackson wanted to look different. Jackson was looksmaxing.

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                When you say “major” - presumably that means you know of “minor” work Liberace had earlier, which you’ve decided not mention, and you’re also omitting that Jackson’s '79 nose job was treatment after he broke his nose in an accident. But clearly you really want to be right on this, so okay it’s all yours.

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    There is this one guy I know in the org I’m with who gives me these vibes. I have been extremely open about this. I will not engage with him or talk with him. Everyone seems to like him for some reason, but every red flag for me was triggered for some reason. He comes off as extremely manipulative. As petty and vindictive. As emotionally immature. As ‘not safe to be around’ period. I have not a shred of doubt that he would be a domestic abuser.

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      If it helps, people with autism tend to see straight through people with narcissistic personality disorder. People with NPD tend to try and isolate and ostracize autistic people as soon as they recognize them, because autistic people miss or disregard basically all of their attempts at manipulation. And if a person can’t be manipulated, a narcissist will see them as a threat to be excised.

      People with autism will usually be baffled at why everyone likes the narcissist, because the narcissist comes off exactly as you described. Manipulative, petty, vindictive, immature, etc… And for some reason, the entire group just seems to go along with what the narcissist wants.

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      But from what you’re saying, not a shred of evidence either. I mean srsly, sometimes we’re just wrong about things, and everybody else feeling differently can be a clue. Not saying you’re wrong, because I don’t pretend to have psychic powers, just that it’s healthy to question our own process sometimes.

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        Not hard evidence but I have heard of some scummy things he has done and he had several pretty bad moments already. But those are easily overlooked or ignored because of his charisma, which I seem to be immune to. Or repulsed by I guess.

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      I’m a DA outreach worker i say 100% trust your gut instinct it’s telling you something. DA perps are manipulative and so tend to be well liked IME. Just fyi there’s a list of DA warning signs here. Every tip for narcissism is someone that does more than their fair share of the talking, always brings things back to them.

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        That is a grim list to read. Especially since it describe my late mother exactly (other than the sexual issues I thankfully know little of).

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        Thanks for that, really. I’ll check it out. I’ve had my fair share of experiences so I have learned to trust the red flags. It just sucks when nobody else seems to notice them (though with this guy I am definitely not the only one noticing as I found out recently…)

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          Yep! I’ll bet there’s a few. The interesting thing is perps often know that, especially when they’re older… they test people to see if they do realise the perp is abusive.

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      He’s overtly sleazy. Like I don’t see how people don’t see snake when they look at him. I have experience with narcs though, I’ve been gaslighted into rejecting reality by them and once you’re through it once, you see the signs from far away. I guess a lot of people don’t have that experience.

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      Finding out that he did a photo op tearing down homeless camps definitely vindicated my initial bad vibes.

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      So basically years ago Newsom gave you a momentary vibe which matches the way Trump has actually spent two presidencies.

      Now let’s all talk about how much we hate Newsom.

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    Yeah all the time, people are just dumb and willing to look past obvious red flags just because someone acts confident. I mean we literally have a name for those people “con man” short for “confidence man” a man who exhudes confidence while scamming people.

    And yet, everyone just likes confidence even when it’s an obvious narcissist pos and then two years later they’re all crying to me “can you believe Geoff would do that?” And im like yeah it was pretty obvious and you guys kicked me out of your friend group so fuck you too.