• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    probably doing thier taxes, getting jobs and look at the job markets for many industries, something Public schools and even colleges are allergic to even discussing about. additionally, getting participation grades will not help you succeed in college, which is partially the k-12 districts fault, because students bring in the assumption that they will get easy As,Bs in certain college courses only to wash out even from CC. also discussing how military recruiters lurk around schools or public places to prey on the disadvantaged.

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    So many daily small thzate kinda impossible to teach a whole class, but are easy to teach a single child (source: I work in a school):

    • reading the clock. May sound weird, but some kids get it really early and quickly, some take more time. Thus pretty frustrating to teach the whole class
    • tying shoes (I know too many kids with 8 or 9 years old who can’t tie a knot, shoes are a good starter)
    • generally small motor skills (crafts, crochet, weaving, whatever you want…)

    And the one thing that school cannot teach and is also very difficult for parents: questioning authority

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      Small motor skills - you know what’s SUPER good at teaching this? Writing in cursive, it’s why it needs to stay in schools.

      All the things listed are also easily teachable to groups - group exercises/worksheets and practice for clocks, tying shoes used to be considered standard to be taught at preschool/kindergarten it’s a matter of practice and cursive

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        What’s your experience with groups of children? You can show stuff. But repetition and practice are not a great thing in a school setting. That needs to happen outside of school. I’ve worked with far over thousand kids and worked in elementary schools for over 10 years now. Yes you can “teach” the things. But the kids need time and space for their own pace at repeating and practicing them

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      And the one thing that school cannot teach and is also very difficult for parents: questioning authority

      I’d widen it to: questioning ideals and argumentation

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    In my case social skills. I was the typical nerd. About 10 years after I finished school I figured out I could learn to get along better with people just like I learnt how to do complicated maths.

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      And also that it’s okay not to like someone, but really fucking not okay to make you not liking someone the other person’s problem.

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      One more vote financial literacy.
      Credit wcore, how loans and credit cards work.
      And knowing gambling only works for the House.

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        In math class when learning statistics we learned “the law of large numbers” , how with enough samples the average approaches the probability. Then applied it to two real world examples, gambling (lottery and roulette) and insurance. The math was the same, and the house always wins because the house deals in large numbers.

        The takeaway is that gambling is stupid because the house always wins.

        But also, statistics do not apply to individuals, so insurance is not stupid. At least not for life-altering expenses, like home, medical and traffic.

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          Just for a simple tiblit: House always wins in roulette because if you bet every number your win will be 1-2-3 tokens short. Depends on 0/00/000 tables.
          There is no hidden cheat in it.
          The only fair bet in a casino is the odds on the craps. But you have to be already in with a disadvantageous bet: Come/Dont come.

  • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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    Critical thinking skills - they’re actually very difficult to teach and constantly incorporating them into everyday life is super important

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      The easiest but most tricky way is through paranoia. It’s easier to look at the bigger picture of whatever you’re presented with if you always doubt the intentions of the one doing the presenting. Of course that could backfire by then doubting subject matter experts like doctors and physicists and end up becoming antivaxxers or flat earthers.

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    A more well rounded perspective of safe sex.

    For instance:

    • An overview of sex toys, and how to use them safely. This might be controversial, especially if I mention that if I had a teenage daughter, I would purchase for her a small, non vibrating dildo (which I would place in a discreet place alongside condoms and lube). My reasoning is that I know from experience that teenage girls can be just as dumb and horny as teenage boys, and I’d rather my daughter be able to explore her body safely than to use unsafe things such as hairbrush handles and marker pens.

    • More discussion on the pleasure aspect of sex. For instance, how many women require clitoral stimulation in order to reach orgasm, either through manual stimulation or a vibrator. I wouldn’t supply a vibrator, but I would mention this in order to emphasise that each person is different in what they prefer, and that a good sexual partner is someone who helps you to explore that.

    • I would briefly mention anal sex, if only because it’s quite prominent in porn nowadays, and porn cuts out the extensive prep required, such as lubricant and gradually working up to things. I’d mostly emphasise the need for lubricant/prep, and that STDs are transmitted more easily through anal sex, so condoms are essential. One of the other things I’d like to imply (or state outright, even) is that straight men can enjoy being the receptive partner for anal sex, and this doesn’t reflect on their sexuality.

    • When I was a teenager, one of the most useful things I stumbled across online was a gallery of people’s genitals in a non sexual context. In particular, I was astounded at the diversity in how vulvas look. I’d find a link to something like that.

    This is an illustrative list, not exhaustive. It’s a moot point as I don’t intend to have kids anyway (and I’m even on the waiting list to be permanently sterilised). However, I think that my own early sexual experiences would have been a lot safer if I had been provided this kind of information

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      These are NOT things to teach to children! And certainly not in a classroom environment. Sexuality is a delicate topic, every person needs to discover & learn about their sexuality at their own pace. I was a teenage girl and would be completely destroyed if I was going about my happy normal life full of studying & dance class & cross country training, then an adult presents me with sex toys?! That is borderline grooming & intrusive. Do not interfere with children’s sexual development. That is their own business. Because if you do, they’re going to picture YOUR face every time that topic arises in their life, and something about your whole comment makes me think that is what you want, and that is disgusting. Stay out of children’s sexual development. Everyone stumbles upon everything they wish to know as they go through life. Adults need to stay away from children’s sexual development. You even said you’re not a parent and never planned to be, but for anyone who is a parent, this is how it should go: Open a basic dialogue with your child, give them the basic mechanical facts when they’re ready/interested, and let them know you’re always available for questions but other than that, respect their space to grow and learn at their own pace.

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        Would have been very nice to be told about “hey there is more than just gay and straight” in school for me because then i wouldnt had to learn it threw an indian guy i randomly met online. And lots things made more sense. If you grow up rural and conservative there is basicly no chance you encounter anything outside your bubble and stereotypes.

        Also sex stuff SHOULD be taught to children. Because it is also about puberty which children go threw and they need to know what is going on. Children have a right for good and the same quality of education across the board for all.

        Everyone stumbles upon everything they wish to know as they go threw life

        This could not be further from the truth. Example me, i am bisexual. But did not know that was a thing until covid. And only threw covid i spend lots of time online which brought me to this guy who was bisexual and who explained it to me. That then led me to break out of the faar right bubble i was in, toxic friends and in the end to a much healthier and happier life with my partner.

        that is borderline grooming

        Explaining to kids how a baby is made, the cell development/pregnancy, how their bodys work and which part does what, how to use and what type of contreceptions there are, how they work and their risks aso, about STDs, telling them about different sexualities and gender identities and that it is okay whom ever they love, and masturbation is normal and not shameful, is not grooming not in the slightes! Its health education.

        Its also not interfearing into their development, not in the slightest.

        I doubt many parents can or even want to explain genetics, hormons, DNA, STDs, cell development of an fertalised egg from fertalisation to brith of the baby, contreception aso to their children. Sexual education statisticly prevents unwanted teen pregnancy which often ruins a teens life.

        They are going to picture your face every time that topic arises

        That honestly says more about yourself than you think it does.

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          that is borderline grooming

          I said that in response to the lady who said that if she had a daughter she would give her dildos & lube!

          Can you imagine if your mom or dad gave you sex toys!?

          Do you have any gifts laying around your house and whenever you look at them you remember & picture the face of who gave them to you? Yeah that’s what I mean.

          It would be destructive to the mental & emotional & sexual development of a girl whose MOM GAVE HER A DILDO. 🤮

          Parents, do not give your kids sex toys. If they reach a level of maturity and they get to the point that they want sex toys, they will find a way to get them on their own, with no correlation to mom 🤮

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    Resiliency. From a military perspective, if you care, I was told that generals are complaining about a lack of resiliency. People go to boot camp and make a mistake but they don’t have the resiliency to fix their mistake and move on.

    I think it comes from parents not wanting their kids to go through any bad experiences. They need to get comfortable being uncomfortable. I have noticed it with my family, but I don’t have any kids so who am I to make judgements.

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    Financial literacy and responsibility, life skills: laundry, dishes, vacuuming, hygiene, cooking and recipe reading. General well being, teach them to be somewhat physical regularly and exercise with them to promote it more so.

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    I’d say argumentation. How to structure and analyse an argument, find flaws and questioning ideas.

    I would have also said “proper source finding and research”, “how to analyse a texts” and “cooking/diet” but thinking back, that was taught or atleast attempted but not done in a way that i understood its intend and reason until now. These also are probably only done in my country/state/school and due to my teachers