When I woke up this morning I saw the headline and I thought “here we go again”. I watched the video and my impression is that he said that sentence in his classic dementia rambling, right after it he said “he should have ended it”.
Basically he was blaming Zelensky for not having negotiated right away and Biden for not having pushed for it.
Not sure if this makes it any better, but at least I got the impression he mispoke saying that particular thing.
No, I’m done giving him the benefit of the doubt. The President of the United States should be able to clearly articulate a thought.
This is not giving him any benefit of the doubt, it’s trying to understand what he wanted to say given the fact that he is not able to articulate a thought. That is what I understood from the video, he rambles all the time and says random stuff, I think it’s a matter of fact he can’t articulate a thought. Sure, it’s a disgrace that one of the most powerful men in the world (if not the most) can’t do that, but here we are.
After all, we’ve always been at war with Eastasia…
It’s honestly uncanny. Not the similarities, but that one of the most commonly assigned books in the public school system is so blatantly disregarded.
Well, most people just remember it as the book where the government watches you, but that’s a very minor part of it. I’m guessing the parts that are remembered/forgotten are on purpose.
it also gets entirely framed as being about the dangers of socialism when really it’s about how fascism adopts the imagery of socialism to do what it does
Russasia has always been our ally.
The Ministry of Truth can’t be wrong.
They’ve already started their Newspeak.
How crazy that Americans aren’t embarrassed by this deadly lie.
Many of us are.
A lot of us are …
Those of us that are embarrassed are outnumbered by the selfish idiots who could vote but didn’t and the hate-filled who believe his lies.
Without an absolute seismic shift in American media and politics or a very massive and probably vert violent revolution, the county is done for.
Oh, I was plenty embarrassed the first run around. The fact that I have to do it again is just…yea.
Says who? We’re not a monolith like any other group. I voted Harris and every day for me has been a waking nightmare.
I mean, plenty of people are. But I think you’ve got about four groups here:
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Supporters. These people are angry at the world and feel like it’s ripped them off and that Trump is gonna make things better.
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Means-to-an-end types. These guys probably would rather not, all else held equal, have Trump saying Trump things, but if it gives them power to get what they want through – e.g. tax policy changes, labor regulations, slashing government services, etc – it’s an acceptable trade. I think that a considerable portion of Republican Party politicians fit into this camp. It’s not that Trump doing this is desirable, but it’s that he’s managed to get voters to give them power to do what they want…and those voters probably don’t actually want their policies and would not actually otherwise vote them the political power to do what they want.
In this country, Mr. Bentley, the man who gives victory in battle is prized beyond every other man.
— Prince Feisal, Lawrence of Arabia
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People who are indeed embarrassed.
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People who don’t really think or care or often know all that much about the outside world. They’re just off doing their thing. Go back to 2014, and here are a bunch of Americans asked to locate Ukraine on a world map:
Like, most people in the US really don’t care that much about the international stage; it doesn’t usually play a huge role in domestic politics. Most people don’t have a great handle on what NATO is, what exactly the UN is, where most countries in Europe are, aside from maybe a handful of major countries. And once the Cold War ended, the American public’s attention to Europe fell off:
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/08/americans-opinions-of-nato/
Americans have a varying level of knowledge about where NATO members are located, the organization’s central focus and Ukraine’s nonmember status. A majority (56%) can correctly identify Europe and North America as the two regions from which the alliance draws membership. And about half (51%) recognize promoting the security of its members as a central tenet of the alliance. Fewer (41%) are able to correctly identify Ukraine as a nation that is not a member of NATO.
Overall, 30% of Americans answered all three NATO knowledge questions correctly. About a fifth each answered two correctly (19%) or one correctly (20%). And 31% of U.S. adults did not answer any question correctly (including the share who chose “Not sure” at least once alongside incorrect answers).
Americans ages 65 and older are 20 percentage points more likely than those ages 18 to 29 to answer all three NATO knowledge questions correctly (38% vs. 18%). Previous Center research has found that older adults tend to have more knowledge of international affairs than their younger counterparts.
Americans with more education are more likely than those with less to answer all three questions correctly: Half of those with a postgraduate education gave three correct answers, compared with 17% of those with a high school education or less.
Notably, Democrats and Republicans were equally likely to answer all three questions correctly.
People who knew more about NATO tended to have different views of the alliance than those who did not know as much about it. For example, 73% of those who answered all three quiz questions correctly believe the U.S. benefits from NATO membership, compared with 57% of those who answered no questions correctly.
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Uhhh… How many residents of Gulf of Mexico’s Northern Neighbors and Their Friends did you poll? I’m guessing the number is either zero or “enough to get the answer you wanted.”
We’ve grown beyond embarrassed. It’s embarrassing when you’re sat at a table with a child who loudly announces that they’ve shat themselves. But now we’re at the point where that child hired their friends to hold you hostage while they rub shit on everyone else at the table.
We still are a bit embarrassed, but now we’re mostly disgusted, depressed, and terrified.
Nope, I’m incredibly embarrassed and scared
Please consider becoming organized in your local communities, they will be essential in the coming months, and it is the most powerful act we can do to resist.
Woah now, organising within our local communities? that sure sounds like red commie talk - some guy, probably
If only my local community didn’t think Trump was being perfect and hurting all the right people right now
May they all suffer and die as this shit gets worse, I will only laugh
Do you think your laughter will ease your death?
Sure will, yeah.
I can’t think of a more depressing, pathetic last thought than “told you so!”
I really hope people do more with their lives than that.
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What are you going to do about it?
Like most people anywhere in the world, he’s going to probably continue to be embarrassed and scared.
What day dream do you have about doing something?
Fucking nothing. We all know the answer.
Wow you two know literally nothing about this dude other than he agrees this is embarrassing and this is how y’all react? Are you for real?
Projection and insecurity often make people lash out.
i hope that’s not it. i’m learning from my ukrainian and georgian sisters and working to mitigate the harm our president is doing. many of us here in the states are organizing and preparing to fight for our survival and to sabotage the fascist dictators who have taken over. we aren’t everyone but we’re trying to propagandize the value of these efforts. the trouble is we’re very distinctly on our back foot given the access to violence our dictators have via the military
We have access to violence, too. Look what the resistance folks are doing in Ukraine— sabotage, destruction of infrastructure, info systems hacking. First things first, stop being scared of these things and realize that reality calls for them. Second, if you are going to do something, NEVER discuss it, especially online.
yeah. part of my point is people need to realize the specifics of what we’re doing are never going to be discussed where you can see. but we’re not up to nothing
nearly half, or more than half, depending on the politics of the non voters, are embarrassed by this line
Trump won votes from less than a third of registered voters. I’m certain more than half of us are outraged.
Trunk didn’t win.
Musk cracked the election counters.
Trump admitted…shit…Trump bragged to explicitly that in the “inauguration” speech.
He’s traitor and a this is literally treason.
Don’t presuppose my embarrassment. I have been embarrassed for as long as I can remember.
I’m ashamed to be American.
Crazy!
Or, maybe they are. And this is just an ignorant hot take.
I’m too paralyzed by fear to be embarrassed.
We are
I fuckin’ hate this guy.
One day, we WILL wake up to his obituary.
Not if we don’t wake up!
Some daaay, over the rainbow🎶
I felt a genuine modicum of relief at the thought.
It’s the reason I refresh my feed so often.
I keep on refreshing the NYT waiting for that big headline.
I hope to be this lucky.
Thanks for shining a light in these dark days
Or he’ll wake up to mine and tens of millions more…
I just can’t anymore. Sorry guys, I’ve been too sick and can no longer cope.
I pop in once a week so I can say, aloud: ‘Jesus fuck this bastard.’
So here’s my weekly ablution. Dog help us all.
Take a minute away from this shit for your own mental health. We’ll still be here yelling about this fucking dickhead when you return.
Trump, who said last week that he and President Vladimir Putin spoke by phone about ending the war, has made several comments bolstering the Russian president. He said during an interview with Fox News last month that Ukraine should not have fought when it was invaded by Russia.
“When you are famous enough, they just let you do it.”
More like “when you’re a big enough scumbag, they just roll over and let you do it”
Where he’s coming from, based on what I’ve seen, is the assertion that Ukraine was in civil war before the 2022 invasion (basically true), and that the western separatists (who were indeed fighting Ukraine’s government).
It’s also true that there was corruption, and some democratic backsliding, prior to the invasion (not that the US or Russia have any leg to stand on there).
The kool-aid part is that the separatists were fighting to “free” western Ukraine from the tyrannical govt, and that Russia finally invaded to save and “relieve” these noble citizens who want to be part of Russia. That everyone would vote this way if some elections weren’t suspended. This conveniently leaves out the first Russian invasion, propaganda efforts and so much more.
This is why Ukraine “started it.” They just kept attacking these rebels and forced Russia to intervene… I guess.
…What I am getting at is, with the MASSIVE intelligence apparatus at his disposal, Trump is guzzling this kool aid. He’s not a two faced dictator, he believes the propaganda and has swallowed the hook.
I think that is even scarier than a real “aware” dictator. It means Trump can make obvious bad decisions that are do not even benefit him, but he lives in a warped reality.
Didn’t Russia use this tactic to annex part of Georgia’s territory back in 2008?
IIRC yes.
It would have worked again if the second invasion hadn’t trended so much, encouraging other countries to intervene, and if Ukraine itself hadn’t put up such a staunch, united resistance.
It also didn’t help that Crimea kept on popping up here and there too.
The alleged reason why Russia attacked was because they want a buffer zone of neutral countries around them. Apparently the US has been running its agenda pushing for Eastern European countries to join NATO knowing it’d stir some shit by ruffling Russia’s delicate feathers. So Russia panicked when Ukraine looked to join NATO at the US’s suggestion and basically used the gay panic defense but for the Western allegiance arriving in their backyard and invaded under a pretext.
Yes, the USA did ignore Russia’s concerns knowingly (and did some very questionable shit inside Ukraine, as usual) but Russia imagined the worst scenario for themselves and did the illegal shit.
meanwhile he is threatening allies with invasions
We should be threatening to give Alaska to Canada rather than threatening to make Canada the 51st state.
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Stop invading yourself, stop invading yourself.
I think he’s talking about how Ukraine was the first to bomb civilians. That was the pretext Russia used for invading.
Why would that have happened?
Distraction. They say this bloat on purpose to bog us down with nonsense. Ignore it, he hates that more than anything.
Trump is nothing more than a treasonous piece of shit.
Spoken like a true rapist.
Trump showing a perfect display of rapist mentality.
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“My guy won, fuck you” - US voters
I don’t think that most Trump supporters generally approved of Trump having said, at some point well in the past, that he should grab women by the pussy.
I just don’t think that they viewed it as a particularly weighty issue.
I mean, I’d really rather that Bill Clinton didn’t get a blowjob in the Oval Office from an intern. But, end of the day, that’s weighed against everything else one cares about. Most Democratic voters just didn’t care that much about it, not enough to override the other things they care about.
I think that Trump has done things that should be disqualifying, like claiming that he didn’t lose the election to try to score political points. That might be a more-compelling thing to argue about. But Trump being crude well prior to being President…shrugs
I think an even better argument is that a lot of the things that supporters thought Trump would do are bad ideas, but you’re going to have a hard time selling large chunks of Americans on that.
I know you didn’t outright say it, but your comment kind of implied that sexual assault is the same as a consensual sexual act. Both parties in the Clinton situation were okay with what was going on in the moment, Trump is talking about getting away with molesting multiple women. This implication fucking sucks.
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Moron’s gonna moron
What in the dill pickle is this pumpkin going on about?
With “starting” it he probably meant Ukraine allowing the US to meddle in its politics overthrowing Janukovich in 2014. And he is damn right about that.
Wait so, its Ukraines fault for allowing their Russian puppet government to be influenced by the United States? And somehow this is Ukraine starting this conflict and not Russia? That only makes sense if you think that Russia has the right to do whatever they want to Ukraine which is a rejection of Ukrainian sovereignty.
Joined today and spewing russian propaganda, name a more iconic duo.
