Really annoying!
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I created an account without a phone number. What really anoys me is there focus on IP addresses. They apparently don’t realize IPs rotate.
Yikes, hopefully this one stays in beta.
It’s already live for me, seems to be a gradual global rollout.
for me it wanted one after i added too many friends at once
it some agressive anti spam “ai” that more or less randomly decides if it wants a phone number or not
This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection. In the server admin dashboard, you can require a phone number on the account or you can disable it and allow users without verified phone numbers to participate.
They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It’s likely due to whatever discord server you’re trying to join.
Same for Twitch. Same for a Microsoft account. It’s become the new normal.
They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It’s likely due to whatever discord server you’re trying to join.
This has changed, it gives you this popup whenever you make a new account, even if you haven’t joined any servers. I tried making an account for my brother a few months ago, and I saw this as well.
This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection.
That’s the official explanation. A phone number is a nice way to attach a real world identity to the data (which of course is sold to advertisers/data brokers etc).
Again - which isn’t required. You don’t have to supply your phone number.
It’s because your data is orders of magnitude more valuable if it has enough information to identify you as a person.
They can’t sell it to data brokers for a lot of money if those data brokers can’t find any information to link that data with their existing profiles.
Surveillance capitalism 101, companies obtain the most value by enabling other corporations to spy on every detail of your life.
If you can’t use a service anonymously, without it being linked to your actual person, then you can either be okay with living with the panopticon, or don’t use the service.
Discord has been slowing rolling this out over the years. It started being offered as a “spam protection” feature and eventually it’ll be a requirement to have an account.
They depend on the masses of people who will trade all of their privacy in exchange for not having to learn how to use VoIP software, video streaming software or IM software.
Discord definitely does have phone number verification on selected accounts if it thinks you are doing something suspicious. Just try making a discord account with protonmail and on a VPN and you should get a similar message.
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I don’t think many people know about sim-swap attacks, so they think people knowing their phone number is fine.
Honestly I wish people would just fucking get rid of phone-number-based OTP anyways. TOTP is where it’s at.
Seriously, you’re complaining now? The privacy apps have been blocking Discord for many years.
The privacy apps have been blocking Discord for many years.
The what?
Things like Privacy Badger block Discord.
Sounds like a javascript issue. Privacy Badger has been pointless for a while btw, it’s superseded by uBlock.
Superseded. From the Latin -sede.
In agreement with ublock origin though
Running uBlock-Origin for many years. I gave an example not an instance I use.
I needed my for some kind of organized event, it took them a week to take my account out of the spam filter, where they put me without event saying a word. By then it was too late, I made the fucking account and gave them my number for nothing else than troubles.
This might be because you’re on vpn. Try a public wifi at school, library, coffee shop or something.
YMMV . Created my account using vpn , basicly never used it while not connected to it , not once I’ve gotten phone verification prompt
Dunno exact conditions for it to show up , kinda paranoid about it
What’s really annoying as well, is that if you try to remove your phone number from your account, your account will get blocked for “suspicious activity”, after doing the required captchas it will get unlocked but your phone number is still there, trying to remove it again will just lock your account again, how is that legal?
Because legal people get the protection of the law, shiti organics are there to be abused by legal people.
For what it’s worth I literally just removed my phone number from my account after reading your comment and it did it no problem. Haven’t gotten any suspicious account alerts yet but if I get one I’ll come back and update.
I hope Mozilla launches the Firefox Relay phone masking soon…
It’s a shame that spacebar and revolt did not really take off so far.
this is the first time I’ve heard of spacebar
Yeah, that’s the problem - none has. Sadly I also only read about it here in a previous post about discord a few months ago.
Can we just go back to irc already?
If we had ircv3 specs that included reactions. etc we might be. I rolled a small group of IRC servers with a few selfhost people a year back and it was quite fun. Tbh IRC itself is still alive and well, it’s just not user friendly enough to get non-tech people over easily
I got locked out of my old discord account because I didn’t have a phone at the time
discord’s been doing this for a while, it’s really scummy
other companies that do this (that I’ve found):
- twitter (even before muskrat bought it)
- probably a lot more
Stop using trash service
What are some alternatives for discord??
Team speak but that shit wont fly with Genz
It does the job though.
If group is private ie people you actually know, then just use signal it works fine enough
Look, the lesson here is not to be bullied by corporate asshats, and they always do this.
So might as well pick an open source service like mumble/murmur.
(i never understood why there was this big migration from teamspeak to discord…)
TeamSpeak required paying for a server. Discord worked out of the box
I checked their site and it looks like you can download the teamspeak server binary for free, even TS6 beta! Or did I miss something here?
Yea the part where Discord blew up 10 years ago because you don’t need to host a server
It is (or has already?) Going to receive a face-lift. That might help out a little bit honestly.
It has had one, TeamSpeak 5 and now they are adding screen-sharing with TeamSpeak 6. I think they would have held a good market if they worked on an upgrade sooner, they only released a beta for TS5 once Discord had gotten super popular. If they were more proactive I think most of us would be using TeamSpeak instead now. It’s just borderline impossible to convince people to move service.
Id swap but it’s not comparable yet sadly. Hopefully ts6server is released soon. Sadly I won’t get to use it as my friends won’t swap unless the mobile app works well. If the ts3 app works together with a ts6 server. Maybe.
Their site has a download page for the ts6 beta, client and server! There’s even a Linux client!
Matrix is the main one I think
Matrix is great but it’s got the same problem as every other communication service, it’s only useful when other people are on it.
I use it and encourage my friends to but they just look at me like I’m crazy
Matrix also isn’t great, tbh. Way to much complexity baked into the protocol which makes the UX horrid
This 100%. Calling is also super iffy in my experience (element / schildichat), and group calls are a non-starter, since it outsources them to a separate service, jitsi, embedded inside the element client.
Spacebar.chat (or github here) is meant to be a drop-in replacement with support for discord bots, but it has been super alpha the few times I’ve tried it. Haven’t checked in for a few months though!
(Edit: yeah I just checked and spacebar is still very much a work in progress. Looks extremely promising though!! It seems there are devs posting updates on the main spacebar instance, which is cool)
Rocket.chat also has a self hostable option, but I don’t recall that one being super great either.
What the FUCK.
I immediately went to settings and, I guess at some point I’d already given these swine my phone number? Went to remove it and I’ve greeted by this wonderful toast message=
God I wish something was fully suitable as an easy discord replacement 😭 spacebar seems rad if it wasn’t super alpha. And as cool as element is, it just doesn’t have the same low bar to entry that discord has (not to mention group calls are jank as hell, when they work, and there’s no screen share yet tragically)…
Just change your number to something like 07777777777. That will work for the UK.
It doesn’t work for me because it asks for a code ):
We should do code swaps.
