• Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.org
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    4 months ago

    It’ll be a clean, fast special operation that definitely won’t lead to a protracted ground war.
    Iran will be taken by complete surprise, since they didn’t expect it.
    Just a couple of helicopters with some special forces guys who go in at night, and in the morning Iran’s leadership will surrender, apologize and build a Trump Hotel in Tehran.

    I’m sure of it!

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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      4 months ago

      For sure, it’s not like America has a long history of fucking up amphibious landings or helicopter based airborne operations. Grenada had like 1500 dudes armed with sks defending it and they only lost like 10 helicopters. Surely it won’t be worse than that…right?

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          4 months ago

          Helicopters naturally understand that army personnel belong on the ground, and their natural instinct is to get them there in the fastest possible way.

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              4 months ago

              Thousands of moving parts on an air vehicle that doesn’t have any glide capacity, being flown by a pilot that’s significantly younger than the airframe… What could possibly go wrong? I guess at least it’s not an osprey?

          • Arras@nord.pub
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            4 months ago

            The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it’s nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.

            This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.

            – Harry Reasoner

            • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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              4 months ago

              helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.

              Nowadays helicopter pilots seem to just be riding the copium that is autorotation.

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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          4 months ago

          Same, my yugo is what I used to use to train friends who are new to rifles. Just wish 7.62 was cheap and easy to find as it used to be.

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            4 months ago

            nice. mine is a chinese version. but yeah. cleaned up well. i still have a ton of 762 but dont hit the range often.

            • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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              4 months ago

              I was really lucky finding mine, got it from a dude that bought a sealed barrel full of them in the early 90s. It took like a gallon of mineral spirits to clean all the cosmoline off and out of it.

              I still have a couple ammo cans full of 7.62, but it’s getting harder to find for a decent price, so I’m kind of hesitant to fire them off willy nilly. It used to be my primary caliber, so I have a mini-30 that i usually save it for.

              I’ve been putting 5.56 together for a while now, but the ar just isn’t my favorite platform so ive been lacking the motivation to finish it. Plus, I don’t really get to hit the range very often either. Most of the outdoor ones around me are full of right winged chuds, and they make you sign up with the nra to become a member.

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                4 months ago

                clubs here are the same too. it’s annoying. i won’t join the nra for obvious reasons and the indoor ranges are often right wing nuts too.

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                  4 months ago

                  Same. There’s one not overtly right winged indoor range near me, but I dislike indoor ranges in general. This one is particularly lax when it comes to gun safety, and you can tell by the plethora of bullet holes in the ceiling and lane dividers. Last time I went I got barrel swept like three times just walking by the store counter.

                  I unfortunately live in one of the most conservative states in the union, and people are just idiots when it comes to firearms down here.

  • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    I told you it was always about oil . It was always not only about israel colonial interests but also american imperialist interests

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      4 months ago

      I told you it was always about oil

      More broadly, it is about western imperial expansion. Control of the Red Sea. Control of the Suez Canal. The ability to cut China and Russia off from international markets (specifically, trade with India and West Africa).

      Oil was a big part of it, but not the whole.

      It was always not only about israel colonial interests but also american imperialist interests

      They’re joined at the hip.

  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Obviously they’re doing this to protect the world from Iran using nuclear weapons. I cannot think of any other reason. Just like Venezuela.

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    4 months ago

    It’s amazing that Iran has gone from a pariah state to something of an underdog. The regime was on the nose and the Demented Don arrived diverted attention to him. A master stroke launching Operation Epstein Fury!

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      4 months ago

      The US being bad does not change anything about Russia.

      If your brother murders someone it does not change anything about the fact that your dad raped someone.

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        Ffs, I forgot this is social media and the average intelligence is room temperature. Of course, Russia is bad. The point is that there is no fucking outrage when the US declares they’re just going to take an island. In case of Russia’s invasion we had 24/7 rolling coverage and breaking news banners on all news sites

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        4 months ago

        It’s such an incredibly childish way of thinking. These people grew up with “Russia bad, Murica good” propaganda, had their minor awakening as they realized the US weren’t in fact the heroes they’d been taught they were, but never actually bothered to unpack the underlying assumption that the world is made of heroes and villains. So instead of figuring out that actually all forms of imperialism suck, they just swapped the heroes and villains in the fairytale because it’s more comforting to live in a world that has unambiguous good guys and bad guys. They want to have a team that they can cheer for and screw it if reality doesn’t agree.

    • flandish@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      naa. he’ll gain profit. his cronies will gain profit. this is what war is always about

    • Steve@startrek.website
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      4 months ago

      Not at all. Their lives will delay any consequences Trump may face for raping all those children.

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 months ago

      Reverse Gallipoli.

      Unopposed landing, then, a week or so later, 2,000 shahed drones a day untill I guess something like a quarter of the 82nd airborne ceases to exist.

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    4 months ago

    OK, when this was expected in the first few days, it was not as stupid. Still stupid, but now they’ve given them months to prepare. This has always been the most obvious target for an invasion. There’s no way it isn’t a trap at this point. If they did it fast then at least they wouldn’t be dug in. Now, a lot more people are going to die for nothing. It doesn’t move any closer to ending the conflict.

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    4 months ago

    Oh look another round of stock manipulation for profit.

    Someone in the Whitehouse making bets!?

    What a joke.

  • metermatic26@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Watching Trump is like watching someone thrash around in quick sand; every time he makes a move, he ends up sinking even deeper.