New Outlook takes 10 seconds to show an email after clicking a Windows 11 notification. Outlook Classic does it instantly.
Exactly the same as when Microsoft ditched Outlook express.
We should all go back to mutt or elm. Maybe pine.
Who the hell uses Outlook???
Work.
It is the standard in the corporate world.
What do you use instead?
Corpo Gmail.
college accounts, some colleges use outlook as thier primary email source, also ties into the apps that come along with it.
I’m forced to at my job. It’s either outlook or outlook online, no third party clients.
Ya that sucks. Various businesses and organizations probably have contracts without work to use exclusively their software…
bunch of colleges use outlook, and likely all its either apps.
Search in Outlook always was a dumpster fire. But the search in the latest version of Outlook has failed to clear even the already low expectations I had for it.
I now save a copy of any email I think I’ll need to reference in the future in a folder on my PC.
You could put them into the pile of trillions of websites online, and Google would still find your file in less than a second. Microsoft has known this to be possible for 3 decades and they still shit the bed when asked to search local data.
Even without the entire other 99.99% of the dumpster fire that is Microsoft, this one fact should have put them out of business 20 years ago.
Microsoft is a testament to how badly our society’s system of value allocation “functions”.
crash?
This is the same idiot misrepresenting WhatsApp ram usage. His job is to inflame, not inform.
Isn’t it an improvement if it takes 10 seconds to crash instead of crashing immediately?
I don’t understand how people can stand this sort of software (or quality of software). The only explanation is they are hostages of the situation.
That’s been Microsoft’s business strategy for decades now.
I can’t say I’ve experienced any of the problems people talk about here. I use a Mac at work so maybe that’s the difference. The old outlook was an enormous memory hog and slow AF. The new one works just fine.
MS is trying to make some of thier money back, after spending all of thier money on AI development,or hositng OPENAI.
There are plenty of sites that you can check to get alternatives for everything Microslop is offering and you can’t be bothered to then it’s your own fault.
Go sell that where you work! You and I are not the customer, business is the customer, and catering to enterprise is a whole 'nother ball game.
I have to use Outlook for work. It’s difficult or impossible to find the features that were actually useful in the new Outlook.
I still use old Outlook because at least it actually works.
Same. I will stick with old outlook as long as I can.
Even opening a task takes ten or more seconds on new outlook. What the hell is it doing that old outlook wasn’t?
If they try to retire classic outlook I’m gonna riot.
Windows 11 is bad and I was unhappy when I got moved onto it, but is bearable. New outlook is unusable if you get a large number of emails every day for work.
They decided: let’s rebuild it with none of the features!!
What the hell is it doing that old outlook wasn’t?
Eating all your ram I would guess 🤷♂️
Someone in MS saw the old Outlook, heard the complaints, and thought it was a great opportunity to lead a full rewrite and new product launch in order to get promoted.
Windows 11 ships with two versions of Outlook. There is Outlook Classic, the long-running Win32 desktop app built for power users, and there is the new Outlook, which Microsoft is pushing as the future of email on Windows. The newer one is built on WebView2 and is, in essence, a browser window that loads Outlook.com.
Old Outlook downloads all your stuff when you sync, so it’s immediately available when you try to look at it. New Outlook just being a wrapper around a website probably means it’s asking the server for things as you select them.
Holy fucking shit. Imagine paying millions for enterprise software for your thousands of employees, then you basically get an icon that loads a webpage
Oh that’s bullshit.
It must be really bad over there at that billion-dollar company where they can’t maintain both a website and a native app. Aww.
A native app in their operating system
Yeah, not bothering to maintain a native app in their own OS seems like a capitulation and a admission
I’ve taken to just using the website for everything, because I ran into synchronisation issues with the android app on my phone (which is also shit). I have to be able to switch computers, so that makes sense for me.
The website has got worse, too - over the last couple of years it’s got slower. For something that’s meant to be the future it seems to be going backwards fast!
Don’t get me started on Teams.
It’s so, so bad. I hate it so much. It makes me angry every time I have to do it. Especially when I try to do some sort of action that’s buried 3 menus deep but it decides to sync something at that moment and just pops you out of whether the fuck you were trying to do.
The examples are pretty funny. Is VERY slow. Like I thought old outlook was a bit on the slow side for syncing. The videos they provide are remarkably slow in every day interactions.
The only improvement I notice is the search. But to be honest that feature couldn’t get any worse anyway.
Which is impressive because it still sucks balls. Especially when it misses items, so you need to dig through folders to find the item. Only for the subject to have the exact word you searched for and it somehow didn’t show up.
Plus the annoying top results and search results being mixed in the same view. Either just sort by time or by relevance. Don’t go mixing them together into a messy results view that’s hard to use.
They’ve calmed down a bit with it now, but there was this phase where they had those small little popups all over the place whenever they changed stuff or added something new. Sometimes even two or three of them you needed to clear just to do the damn job you booted up the infernal program for in the first place. It would drive me insane. Especially when there was something actually worth looking at, but I need to do my job first. But in order to use the tool, you needed to close those popups and once you did they were gone forever. So good job remember what it was and how to find it. Such awful UX design.
Tho Plex recently did a full screen wizard to show off their new “Discussion” feature. A feature I do not want and will never use. But I was still required to go through the slide deck on each of my devices before I could use the app again. UX is really an art and in my experience kind of a lost art for the most part these days.
It should be criminal to even charge money for MS software considering how much garbage it is
And with the power of AI we’re going to keep making those delays LONGER!
Good thing that the new Outlook at least doesn’t force itself onto you… oh, wait
Using “New” Outlook is granting Microsoft’s webmail server permission to access and read everything in your mailbox, from the day it was created to the latest email received. Anyone using it willingly is a fucking idiot.
All it IS is an edge webview window loading outlook.com. Go ahead. Block outlook.com and watch it fail spectacularly.I’m concerned about what you wrote here. I’m not clear though – how is what you wrote different from what the outlook desktop does otherwise? Outlook always had access to my email and calendar account, doesn’t it?
