• Raja@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    At least in my country and I suspect many others, yellow / amber mean “stop if it’s safe to do so”, effectively the same as a red light.

  • snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works
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    16 days ago

    Yeah the only time you’re not supposed to stop on yellow is if it comes on while you’re too close to stop safely, it’s still a stop signal, it’s just the one that gives you a margin if you’re already going. Also you should be preparing to stop at traffic lights anyway. If it stays green then great.

  • BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.works
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    16 days ago

    Yellow doesnt mean speed up, its means stop. If you drive like an asshole, call me whatever you want. I dont care what assholes think of me.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    16 days ago

    Yes! Just fucking go! I’m trying to get somewhere. And if you’re one of the sibling comments talking about public safety, we can be safe and still make the light without speeding up. That’s why we have yellow so people don’t have to brake hard.

    A surprising number of people here don’t seem to understand that you can coast without being a dick. No one said to press the gas peddle. They said you might not need to brake.

  • BigBenis@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    If I see you compromising public safety because you think you’re above the rules we set in place to keep our communities safe, then I’m calling you worse things than thundertwat.

    Yellow means stop if you can. It’s not permission to drive recklessly in order to save yourself a minute of time.

  • fireweed@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    I’d double-check your local traffic regulations; there are places where you can get written a ticket for running a yellow light.

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      18 days ago

      I’d double-check your local traffic regulations; there are places where you can get written a ticket for running a yellow light.

      Holy shit, then what’s the difference in those places between a red light and a yellow light?

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        17 days ago

        With red, the context doesn’t matter. You run a red light, you get fined. With yellow, the context does matter: you only get fined if you clearly could’ve come to a stop safely, but didn’t.

        The severity of the fine also differs (talking about Germany here). If you run a red light you get at least one “point”, which is a semi-permanent mark on your record that will lead to more severe punishment if you rack up too many of them. If you endangered someone, caused an accident, or the light was red for more than a second, you also get your driver’s license taken away for a month. You don’t get any of that with a yellow light, and the monetary fine is also much lower.

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        18 days ago

        “you could have stopped but didn’t” vs “you should have already been stopped but weren’t”

        Basically, when you come to a yellow light, there are two ways you can look at the situation: “can I safely stop before reaching the intersection?” or “can I make it through the intersection before the light turns red?” The idea behind “yellow running” regulations is that drivers should be asking themselves the first question, not the second.

        • Kairos@lemmy.today
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          17 days ago

          How the fuck does a court much less a cop make that determination? As long as they’re going at or under the speed limit I see no problem with “running” yellows.

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            17 days ago

            If you were significantly more than your stopping distance in front of the light when it changed, you should stop - if you didn’t, you’re liable.

            • Kairos@lemmy.today
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              17 days ago

              Ok now how do we factor in reaction times? Should drivers be expected to keep their eye on the LED instead of checking if anyone on an opposing direction is going to run the red light instead?

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                17 days ago

                A standard generous reaction time is part of your standard stopping distance. Did you not learn this as part of learning to drive?

                Yes, you should be watching for traffic lights training as you drive.

                I see I shouldn’t be asking if you learnt this, because you obviously never venture out from underneath your bridge except to eat passersby and be a pillock on the internet.

                • Kairos@lemmy.today
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                  17 days ago

                  People say “stopping distance” with many different definitions all the time. Also it’s different per state.

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                  17 days ago

                  No amount of drivers ed and giving people tickets will stop people from running fresh reds, even accidentally. The only things that help with the consequences is making people understand this, raising intersections, and longer all red periods.

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                  17 days ago

                  My point is that blindly teaching drivers about traffic rules makes them extremely unprepared for the reality of driving. I’ve run red lights accidentally many times. It happens. I’ve precented collisions by LOOKING AT THE ROAD and knowing when a driver is going to run a yellow or red when I’m turning left/stealing the intersection. You’re treating every red light run the same. It’s like saying speeding on the freeway by 15mph is just as dangerous as speeding by 15mph on surface streets. The latter is MUCH more dangerous by like, at least two factors of 10.

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            17 days ago

            My understanding is that, at least where applicable in the US, it’s pretty rare to get a ticket for running a yellow. So it might be one of those things that never actually comes up, or only when part of another charge.

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              17 days ago

              My only guess would be something like “speeding in order to pass through a traffic signal”

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    18 days ago

    If you are driving a BMW, mercedes, or Tesla, I’m 100% going to stop at yellow and stay 2 points below the speed limit if you are behind me.

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      17 days ago

      this is why I sold my bmw and got a Peugeot …

      But now I have the issue where all the pickup truck drivers get offended when I overtake them

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Bah! You’ll be fine, just speed to the next light.

    How long does a stop light take? Three minutes? Look at your damn phone, that’s all you’re going to do when you get wherever you’re going, anyway.

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    17 days ago

    I’ll never understand what part of driving a 2-ton metal machine makes people think you’re an asshole for not doing it recklessly enough