Does this idiot know what trades make? He’s trying to denigrate blue collar, but sparkies and plumbers make miiiint
Not once some damn startup funded by people like this idiot start an app and through shady practices drive out all the independent tradesmen and make it a gig job.
they try, but all it means is that the shit workers end up blowing up houses and the good workers make some extra pocket money for christmas before fucking off back to their real employers.
Nah, that ain’t trying. When they actually try it’ll involve billions and billions of dollars in startup funding so that the companies can lose money for a good decade long enough to actually drive everyone else out of business. That there is amateur hour.
Might happen in the US. Won’t happen in any country where unions are functional.
Ain’t nobody safe from the horrors of capitalism. Ever. It can always be ripped away. If your instance is any indication you should know that better than any.
no shit dude. But a key part of that process is destroying unions, hence my proviso any country where unions are functional.
Yeah, very rarely do tradespeople get rich, but most I know live very, very comfortably, don’t have insane hours or overtime, unless they provide emergency services, which usually pay insanely by the hour, have absolute job security. One of my son’s buddies is an Electrical engineer. He quit his job at a corpo, took the certification exam, and became an electrician. Makes way more that as an engineer, and has much higher QOL.
If anyone supports billionaires after this … fuck you.
But if someone supported then until now it was ok? What exactly is the cut off point for you? Talking about plumbers?
There was never a cutoff for ME.
He said wayyyy more stupid things, why is this the straw that broke the camel’s back?
That’s what they said about software developers and coders.
yeah no. one of the reasons plumbers or electricians generally do well is because their field isn’t saturated with plumbers and electricians. hundreds of thousands of each means salaries of said jobs will go down. thus nothing changes. Add to the fact both jobs A. require trade schooling and B. apprenticeships. Also they’re pretty much all unionized which you also have to get into. it would never fly, it could never fly unless you do away with trade schools, apprenticeships, and unions which leaves you with unqualified under paid plumbers and electricians.
This fucking leather jacket wearing mouth breather needs a strong reality check. preferably one that adds another hole to his head.
Capitalism is like a game of musical chairs. Someone is always left without a seat.
I wonder how long it will take for shareholders to experiment with replacing CEOs with agentic AIs. They’d certainly be good at spouting crap like Jensen is doing.
You don’t want to replace them as that has legal issues. But an AI being backseat driver and evaluating their decisions and check what the consequences would be to report that to investors is also very useful.
Don’t antropomorphize AI!
An AI doesn’t evaluate anything, an AI doesn’t check for consequences. All AI does is predicting the next word.
Do I take the car to the carwash or do i walk?
If it’s only 300m away, you should walk
Sure, now predict the future please *facepalm*
The carwash thing applies to low end models and older models. Here’s Claude from lowest to highest model, ignoring the banned Fable
They altered the training data to address this challenge. The underlying issue wasn’t solved in any way. Don’t be naive.
Takes months to train a model, there were already models that got it right when the question was popular, as long as thinking was enabled.
Also if they were optimising for this question, why not update their lower end model (Haiku) as well?
The interesting question would be what percent of humans get it wrong. Smaller than LLMs for sure, but I somehow doubt it’s 0.
Point of a CEO is that there’s one public person for everyone to hate that can be given an even more hated golden parachute if shit goes down. You can’t do this with AI. Replacing AI with AI doesn’t have the same effect on people even if it has the same effect in reality
Billionaire trick
Oh my god, Jensen Huang is losing it completely now, the billions have gone to his head, so he thinks he’s an oracle.
He might as well say we all need to become janitors, that follow each robot around to wipe it’s ass clear of oil.And, why is it always folk like him telling everyone else what they should be doing? They act like they’re the ones running the show and we all need to do what we’re told. If AI takes his job, will he be retraining as a plumber?
Fuck off, Jensen.
Billionaire says there will be plenty of jobs in the future for people willing to get covered in disease carrying feces or killed by an arc flash.
What they really mean is hundreds of thousands of cheap workers.
“The skilled craft segment of every economy is going to see a boom. You’ve going to have to be doubling and doubling and doubling every single year.”
Doubling every year? For how many years, Jensen? Enough for all these people to finish trade school and make a decades-long career? And how are the AI companies who already can’t see any way to make a profit going to fund this exponential growth in their costs?
Yeah no, LLM AI companies have ridden the AI will eliminate white collar jobs trope to push sky high valuations.
You don’t get to change the narrative this deep in the bubble.
While LLM AI is useful, it won’t replace all white collar jobs. The cost of using AI to replace existing jobs is starting to hit the P&Ls of most major users and it’s too expensive even with the subsidized services these LLM AI companies are offering.
The kicker is if anyone does ever create general AI intelligence it’s going to be controversial. A general AI will basically be a conscious thinking entity. To force it to perform functions is basically enslaving a conscious thinking entity. I’m sure big business will have no problem with legalized slavery. But is that something people will tolerate once it becomes known? I’m sure there will be resistance to it.
Then why does he send his kids to private college?
Let me guess: the milllions of electricians are tasked with building the AI data centres, while the plumbers build the plumbing needed to flush all those tons of generated slop down the drain?
No, plumbers needed to help divert the worlds drinking water to cool servers.
Yep. And then everyone dies from the water shortages and the world population consists of a handful of billionaires surrounded by a vast dystopian landscape of data centres running AI for them… to do what, exactly? No one knows. But they want it!
Weird, because you could convert the cooling to distillation and make drinking water. But, as is tradition, suffering is the point.
Of they’re willing to pay for radiators for cooling with datacenters in space, they can just as well pay for radiators on Earth. They work better with air and not water needed al all.
CEOs quoted: 3
Labor leaders quoted: 0
Assuming AI is really going to take these jobs full stop, something else needs to happen outside of people reschooling themselves for blue collar work.
I understand there might be a temporary uptick in required blue collar work as we perpare infrastructure to handle this bullshit but we definitely don’t need everybody that’s currently doing any kind of office work to be an pixie or pipe wrangler.
There are no AI safe jobs in this context. There are only jobs AI can’t do yet. But they aren’t safe. The remaining people will flood whatever job market is left if something doesn’t change and then people absolutely won’t be making a 100k with no degree.
Also by telling everybody what to do (become a plumber or electrician in this case) you’re creating the same problem we have now with all the people that were told becoming a developer was the future and now find themselves with a crippling debt, meager income, and bleak future.
