27 countries? Which ones?
Good question! The report is here but there’s no such list that I could find.
https://static.heritage.org/index/pdf/2026/2026_indexofeconomicfreedom.pdf
It’s kinda why these types of posts should probably be discouraged. Posts like these should have sources.
To be fair they did say they had the lowest literacy rates
My country has all of that (healthcare/education are basically free). Workers rights are protected and stuff but taxes here are really high compared to the U.S.
The problem is the insistence on trying to force the word “socialism” onto people. The meaning of the word is completely nebulous, but to many people it’s synonymous with the USSR. So by saying to want “socialism” you’re automatically fighting an uphill battle by explaining distinction between what you mean by the word as opposed to other people’s meaning of the word.
This is part of a larger problem of leftists generally being incapable of communicating with working class. If leftists abandoned the terminology and just said “we want universal healthcare, higher minimum wage, better working conditions” there would be a lot of support by the working class.
But the problem there is that you’d be largely indistinguishable from liberals who you’re told to hate by monetized “influencers” on corporate social media. Corporate social media has emphasized the importance of identity over being effective, so leftists will continue to cling to the word “socialist” even while it hinders effectiveness on achieving goals that most people want. Then probably be angry at the working class for being “stupid” because they don’t understand that you want the same things as them and it’s their fault that they associate the word “socialism” with a country that had that word in it’s name.
explaining distinction between what you mean by the word as opposed to other people’s meaning of the word
I think this is the cause of the majority of disagreements. Like, in everything.
Nah it’s just internet troll culture. Say things in a controversial way to get a response and argue over semantics and accomplish nothing.
The people that actually want to make a difference actively make an effort to get people to agree with them, which is the opposite of troll culture.
No, there are approximately 190 fully capitalist countries, stop whitewashing capitalism. Capitalist countries also include: Afghanistan, Burundi, South Sudan, DRC and India. Stop with this evolutionist nonsense.
Yeah because capitalism is just how things develop without excessive government intervention to prevent it. It’s a lie to say capitalism is a choice. I guess technically you could say it’s a choice between buying food from a farmer or starving to death, but really that’s not much of a choice. The two biggest famines in history were cause by socialist countries taking direct control of the agriculture industry.
Lol. Who’s the shithole country now?
I’d watch US shows where sometimes people would get fired on the spot in in a dramatic way and thought it was just artistic license until I realized Americans literally have no protections and can be fired at will for no reason at all. It is horrifying. What’s even worse is that people celebrate this as a “fluid labor market” , as if placing people under chronic insecurity is a virtue.
I have coworkers from other countries who came to America and asked me if the contract they signed was true - that they can be fired at will.
It’s incredibly embarrassing.
I wouldn’t call the US developed. There is development, with the sky scrapers, mega companies and billionaires, but there are also palaces built in South Africa, North Korea and Turkmenistan. North Korea and Turkmenistan have better infrastructure than the US. But I wouldn’t call insane poverty rates, insane inequality, autocracy, oligarchy, insane incarceration rates, corrupt government and legal system, institutionalized racism and still legal slavery any form of modern development.
Developed
Not civilised
and guess what folks, the countries that have things like Universal health care, the citizen rights is taken away big time. Many of these countries that are supposed ahead of America, eating food is not a right, having children is not a right, etc.
No one is this dumb. Get your ragebait out of here haha.
You’re an idiot
Don’t breed
So you say, that the US has the purest capitalism while everyone else has diluted it with some soviet communism?
America has always been behind the rest of the world. They still do slavery for fuck sake.
So does Europe. Modern slavery just doesn’t use chains.
all cool for down with murcia but please tell me where actually is. Yeah we have underpaid workers but slavery?
You should be embarrassed for not knowing about the 13th amendment.
you should be ashamed not knowing present va past tense
Oh yeah they get rid of the part about using prisoners as slaves when I wasn’t looking? Lol
I think prison reform is a seperate topic from slavery, but you do give up your rights in prison, which would include the 13th amendment. Many countries have much more terrible prison conditions.
Either way in the 1800s slaves didn’t have as much of a choice to be a slave, today prisoners mostly had a choice before committing a crime (though I acknowledge not every person in jail deserves or should be there). I just think that should be awknowledge before saying America still has “slaves”. At the end of the day the law is what allows us to have the society we have today (for better or worse).
Lmfao. You’re disgusting. No, not very many countries have worse prisons than America, At least not other comparable western nations.
How is that disgusting? Admitting that you lose rights in prison? You’re literally just trolling for a reaction. I can think of a handful of EU countries with much smaller populations that have it better. Comparing black slaves from the 1800s to modern day prisoners is what’s disgusting
Ha, you think the rest of the world doesn’t profit off slavery…
Who said that? There a ghost in here? Which countries have it baked into their constitutions? 13th amendment.
Are you kidding me?
Brazil - slavery was abolished by ordinary law in 1888 (“Lei Áurea”), predating the current 1988 constitution, which then enshrined the prohibition directly in its text.
Mauritania - abolished slavery by decree in 1981, then criminalized it more explicitly through legislation in 2007, though this was statutory rather than a constitutional amendment.
India (1950) – Article 23 prohibits trafficking in human beings and forced labor, including slavery-like practices. South Africa (1996) – Section 13 of the Bill of Rights bans slavery, servitude, and forced labor.
Germany – Article 1 combined with statutory law prohibits slavery under the broader human dignity clause.
Ghana (1992) – explicitly prohibits slavery in its Bill of Rights.
Ethiopia (1995) – its constitution includes a slavery prohibition.
Many Latin American constitutions (Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, etc.) contain explicit anti-slavery clauses, often tracing back to 19th-century independence-era abolition.
People acting like America is the only country that had slaves. Here’s another list for your edification!
Portugal - among the earliest and largest traders, especially to Brazil
Britain - dominant by the 18th century, especially via Liverpool and Bristol
France - significant role, especially to the Caribbean (Saint-Domingue/Haiti)
Spain - mainly through licensing other nations (asiento system) to supply its colonies
Netherlands - major early trader, especially via the Dutch West India Company
Denmark - smaller but notable participant.
And what country has the most stringent laws concerning slavery and human trafficking that would be America. We hate human traffickers more than we hate pedophiles around here.
Are you fucking joking lmao. Those are all countries which have banned slavery.
America has never banned slavery. In fact, they baked it into the constitution.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States
Fucking disgusting country that still uses hundreds of thousands of slaves to this day!!
I’ve already addressed the constitutional aspect of slavery in the United States.
There is no form of slavery in the U.S. that is supported by either the government or the general public.
Slavery and human trafficking are among the most serious crimes you can commit in America and are prosecuted aggressively with severe penalties.
We do not have legal slavery. What we do have is significant wealth and wage inequality, which is an entirely different discussion worth having, just not here.
At this point, it feels like you just want to take cheap shots at America. That’s your prerogative. We allow that sort of criticism here. Criticize the country all you want.
We’re still better than you.
Oh no, :( what’s happening to all of your little comments? Bye bye comments! Bye bye mechoman!
America is one of the worst empires to ever exist lmao, you’re not better than anyone at all.
Slavery and human trafficking aren’t crimes at all in America. The president is a pedophile rapist human trafficker, and you use prisoners as slaves in almost every state!! You know nothing of your own country, or you’re willfully evil to defend it!
Right.
I’ve done absolutely nothing to defend my country. In fact, I’ve been criticizing it quite heavily.
I’ll correct you once again: slavery, pedophilia, and human trafficking are all extremely illegal in this country, and they are punished severely.
The fact that the people associated with the Epstein files, including our own president have not been arrested, held accountable, and punished is a black stain on our history that we may never fully recover from.
So, what country are you from?
According to the ACLU, prisoners at the Louisiana State Pen (Angola) pick cotton and sugarcane for $0.02/hr. Many must work for up to 3 years without pay to be eligible for this wage.
Those who “choose” not to work are placed in solitary confinement, a practice that is considered torture in most first world nations.
You can read the full report here Captive Labor: Exploitation of Incarcerated Workers
Ok. Louisiana has one of the worst prison systems in America. The judicial system is irrationally racist against black men.
Congratulations on pinpointing one of the horrendous social issues that we have in America.
What country are you from?
It’s not socialism
Bro, it’s socialism.
Some of it is national socialism, so maybe don’t get too enthusiastic about how the Brits segregate out their health care services or the Germans treat unemployed immigrants or the French handle non-native speakers trying to form a union.
But all of this has socialist economic organizing at its foundation.
Socialism refers to collective ownership of the means of production. Social democracy refers to a capitalist market economy supplemented by welfare programs, labor protections, and public services. The two terms are not interchangeable despite frequent misuse on the internet. You are describing and advocating for social democracy not socialism.
The two terms are not interchangeable despite frequent misuse on the internet.
The systems exist on a spectrum and implementations vary heavily by region, culture, and material capacity.
You are describing and advocating for social democracy not socialism.
I’m describing nationalized health care, which is socialist in character. I’m not advocating for any system in these posts, merely warning that nationalist tenancy can lead to segregated provision of service in an economy model.
It’s not actually though. you’re confusing nordic welfare states for socialism, there are even variants of socialism like market socialism with none of these.
Socialism is strictly about worker owned means of production.
you’re confusing nordic welfare states for socialism
Nordic states reorganized themselves from feudal agrarian military economies into industrial social welfare economies over the course of the late 19th and 20th centuries. Their party politics and bureaucratic reorganization was explicitly informed by socialist theories and economic models devised during that time.
Socialism is strictly about worker owned means of production.
Strong unions, state owned industries, and Democratic governance gives working Scandenavians direct say over and profit from their local economies
It being inspired by socialism doesn’t change the fact that the workers don’t own the means of production there and it is therefore not socialism. Them having more say because they have unions is not the same.
workers don’t own the means of production
Workers control the means of production through the democratic state
they don’t though, they regulate it and apply some pressure, but these are still privately held, socialism is always in contrast to private ownership.
socialism is always in contrast to private ownership
The Nordic Model is public ownership of high value industry (most notably, the O&G industry). They also have universal healthcare and free education, which come as a byproduct of state owned and operated medical centers and schools. And strong union membership puts a public leash on private enterprises at the level of direct worker action.
“The government controls around 35% of the total value of publicly listed companies on the Oslo stock exchange, with five of its largest seven listed firms partially owned by the state.[34]” good, but not socialism. Free healthcare and schools are not related to socialism.
The american dream with the 80’s victory music in the background, I can hear it
Hungary also did that under Orbán, but we were told once we will have enough “national billionaires”, the money will start to trickle down. When the billionaires arrived and we asked when the money will finally trickle down, we were told money is not everything, and we’re acting like “spoiled children”.
The phrase “true and fully capitalist” is a sentence incongruent with historical materialism. Mode of production is not about purity of ideology. It is about how things are made.
I need sources.
The Index of Economic Freedom is created by the Heritage Foundation, which should tell you all you need to know about that as a source.
That is the most dystopian American-sounding thing I’ve heard all day, especially considering the source.
In this context I expect that “Economic Freedom” means “unregulated, social darwinist, robber baron playground, law of the jungle laissez-faire capitalism.”
It’s certainly does. Thank you.
I need sources
How dare you not to believe a random anon
Lol.
We got fed so much propaganda about this country growing up. Basically North Korea Lite.
