Socialism refers to collective ownership of the means of production. Social democracy refers to a capitalist market economy supplemented by welfare programs, labor protections, and public services. The two terms are not interchangeable despite frequent misuse on the internet. You are describing and advocating for social democracy not socialism.
The word, social socialism socialist in the English language means so many different things and have so many distinct definitions. No layperson can possibly keep up with it it’s crazy.
In a sense yes. Both Burnie and AOC describ themselves as democratic socialists but neither of them have ever advocated for the public ownership of production like in pure socialism. They have always supplimented they’re political views along with democracy.
So simple calling them socialists is incorrect. Also keep in mind that both of them are part of the DNC.
At this point, I’m just celebrating because I would take even democratic socialism in this country at this point. Also, I guarantee the majority of people aren’t gonna care to distinguish the 2, sadly.
The difference between social democracy and Democratic socialism is the same as the difference between Catholicism and protestantism.
Both in effect. Advocate for severe corporate limitations and an abundance of social welfare programs. Which I’m 100% behind. By the way, they totally support either one of these political statements.
No. The socialist movement is not growing.
The democratic socialist movement is growing.
I’ll leave you with my standard disclaimer:
https://youtube.com/shorts/zMmjKRettxA
Leave it to the USA to name two completely unrelated things the same name, because it hates both equally and doesn’t distinguish either.
Don’t even get me started dude.
The word, social socialism socialist in the English language means so many different things and have so many distinct definitions. No layperson can possibly keep up with it it’s crazy.
baby steps
Dem soc =/= Soc dem
Democratic socialists are socialists, social democrats are not.
In a sense yes. Both Burnie and AOC describ themselves as democratic socialists but neither of them have ever advocated for the public ownership of production like in pure socialism. They have always supplimented they’re political views along with democracy.
So simple calling them socialists is incorrect. Also keep in mind that both of them are part of the DNC.
Bernie’s actually not part of the DNC. He is registered as an independent.
This is correct. I stand correct.
I believe neither of them are part of the DNC. They do caucus with the Democrats because the other option is the Republicans.
You may be correct. They both have always thrown their hats and with the Democrats now as far as I can tell anyway.
they have no choice. Being in a legislature requires compromise, or you can be 1 term idealistic representative who achieves nothing during your term.
At this point, I’m just celebrating because I would take even democratic socialism in this country at this point. Also, I guarantee the majority of people aren’t gonna care to distinguish the 2, sadly.
You literally said Democratic Socialism and linked a quote contrasting Socialism (generally) to Social Democracy, not Democratic Socialism.
Why does this post start talking about democratic socialism then link to a description of social democracy? Those are not the same thing.
In America, liberalism is called leftism, leftism is called fascism, and fascism is called bipartisan common-sense politics.
The nuances between Social democracy and Democratic socialism never stands a chance in public discourse.
The difference between social democracy and Democratic socialism is the same as the difference between Catholicism and protestantism.
Both in effect. Advocate for severe corporate limitations and an abundance of social welfare programs. Which I’m 100% behind. By the way, they totally support either one of these political statements.