• Aniki@feddit.org
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    1 hour ago

    you can actually make these things very easily by just taking two ordinary solar panels and basically glueing them together.

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    14 hours ago

    Here’s a concept image of what I have in mind for a climate change solution. Using bifacial solar cells in combination with azolla ponds to sequester carbon dioxide and produce excess electricity.

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      uhm, that’s not economical. to effectively transform a worldwide energy supply (that’s a very high amount of energy throughput), you need economic advantage. and this isn’t it. please put the solar panels at an angle sothat they collect more sunlight or the solar park isn’t gonna pay itself off anytime soon.

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      14 hours ago

      I often see farms that use this type already in my area. Its such an obvious and simple add on, because lots of plants actually prefer having less direct sun, especially when its super hot.

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        10 hours ago

        Awesome, yea I think that’s why this is actually feasible. You’re taking an idea that is already proven to work, and then you simply just add value by making the land more productive with very little extra investment.

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        9 hours ago

        I read more about azolla and direct sun, so really it would need to be shaded, and that’s fine, as long as we shade it with solar panels.

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      14 hours ago

      What would you use the azolla for? Animal feed? Which source of nutrients would you feed it with? Intensive harvesting of azolla would quickly deplete the nutrients in the water.

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        10 hours ago

        Great question. Several uses. especially if squeeze and dried, can be used as nitrogen fertilizer. Given the fact that azolla fixes nitrogen from the atmosphere.

        Biochar: Organic carbon permanently locked into a solid form that remains in the soil for over 1,000 years, generating high-value Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) credits.

        High-Protein Animal Feed: A cheap, highly nutritious feed supplement rich in protein and amino acids to replace land-intensive soy and alfalfa for cattle, poultry, and fish.

        Organic Biofertilizer: Nitrogen-rich pellets made directly from the nitrogen-fixing fern, allowing farmers to completely bypass expensive, fossil-fuel-derived synthetic fertilizers.

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          Duckweed works better for animal feed since it produces far more biomass and protein per day although azola is still pretty good. Thx problem with both is dewatering and getting high enough consumption. It works as an additive but certain animals don’t like to eat pure azola or duckweed. Processing it into protein concentrate helps out though so you can feed far more to animals that would otherwise start refusing rations made with too much of either.

          One thing worth thinking of would be a cooling jacket on the back of the solar panels that also heats the pond water. That makes the panel’s more efficient, only needs a small electric pump to circulate it, and makes the pond plants grow faster when it’s cold or even allowing them to be productive in the winter in certain places?

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        I think azolla has been floated (hah!) as a scalable way to quickly fix atmospheric carbon. Maybe fish aquaculture for nutrient restoration?

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          You can feed the azolla waste water from a fish farm for sure. But then what do you feed the fish? The nutrients always have to come from somewhere and they have to end up somewhere. If you’re simply dumping azolla in a mine somewhere as carbon storage that then turns into a huge waste of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium. It’s a very nutrient dense plant.

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            I think the easiest option that works at the largest scale for the least money is dewatering it and pyrolysing it into carbon. You might get some of the nutrients back but most would be lost I think which is the downside. The only way to get those nutrients out is to turn it into ash which destroys nitrogen but liberates potassium, phosphorus, and other minerals.

            One other option is to use it as a soil amendment. Biochar has a massive impact on crop yields (for soils that dearly need it. This isn’t universal) and the effects can last for decades or even centuries. It takes a lot of biochar to have that effect though, which azola or duckweed carbon fixing can produce in bulk.

            I’ve heard something like 8-30 tons per hectare of bio char. The other benefit is while some of the carbon releases naturally over time it’s a slow process. The big benefit is water and nutrient retention without water logging your crops (in fact it helps with drainage in low permeability soils.) More beneficial bacteria and a healthier soil ecosystem.

            Biochar is best made with manure and composte afterwards to preload it with nutrients otherwise it actually has a net negative effect on yields (since it’s like adding activated carbon. It absorbs everything until it’s fully loaded up with nutrients)

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            Yes you’re effectively sucking out nitrogen and carbon directly from the atmosphere and turning it into a solid. Furthermore, if you squeeze out all the water you get extremely dense cakes. You can use the energy generated from the solar panels to mechanically squeeze the azolla, use the squeezed out water back into the system.