• bizarroland@fedia.io
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        2 years ago

        In my opinion, Sublime Text is a little bit better for coding based applications, specifically with like HTML and CSS, even though Notepad++ is great for it too, but just for overall drag and drop replace, works with everything, wonderful, free and open source software, it is very, very difficult to beat Notepad++.

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          Price wise sublime text isn’t that great unless you are coding with it.

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            I’ve never heard of notepad++ being referred to as cluttered before. It’s fairly spartan in my opinion.

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            Agreed, coming from regular Notepad there’s a lot going on there. The whole point of Notepad was a quick and dirty text editor. If I needed that many options for what I’m writing I’ll just fire up Word instead.

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              Sublime Text has all that functionality and more without stealing precious screen space from your valuable text.

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                Never used Sublime Text but just from the screenshots on their site looks like the only real difference is the menu bars? Do you have to reference the documentation to look up keyboard shortcuts on all the stuff you don’t do often?

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      I don’t want to get into a text editor war - because these are all good options - but it’s definitely also worth giving the “Kate” editor from KDE a go, it’s available as a native Windows app from the MS store and everything:

      https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NWMW7BB59HW

      I personally find it considerably nicer to use than Notepad++, and it means I don’t have to give up 25 years of muscle memory for keyboard shortcuts when I have to switch to a windows machine.

      Also some crazy how, it uses less RAM than Notepad‽ (With no files open, 61 vs 71MB) Not sure what Microsoft are up to, but it’s definitely something strange.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        To each their own for sure, but the takeaway here is that there are definitely better notepads than Notepad by now, especially since having AI baked into your plain text editor isn’t something that anyone ever asked for.

        At this rate you may a well use a slab of some granite and a chisel, or maybe even vim.

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    This is literally not an example of enshittification and the article is intentionally misleading.

    First of all, all of the original Notepad functions are unchanged and still free.

    Literally nothing got shittier.

    Which is why describing Notepad as getting a paywall is quite frankly flat out disingenuous.

    They are adding new, cloud running, AI features to Notepad that are locked behind a paywall. You can not like that for whatever reason, but that’s not an example of enshittification. That’s an example of them charging for new functionality.

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      The whole point of notepad is that it’s a lightweight minimalist app that makes opening/editing text files as fast as possible while also being robustly reliable because of its simplicity. These are its core features. Adding pop-ups and more advanced features makes it slower to use and more complex, and with more complexity there is more chance for issues. Therefore the key advantages of notepad are shittier–>enshitificstion

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      It’s particular ironic how previously the big uproar was about adding these features in the first place. First it was “nobody wants this! Keep AI out of Notepad!” And now it’s “how dare you prevent me from using AI in Notepad!”

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      That’s like how enshittification starts, “oh we’re just going to paywall these features, don’t worry all the old ones will be free!” And then the old parts start getting replaced by “New and improved!” Parts that also somehow need to be on the cloud and paywalled.

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        The old parts are literally just a basic wrapper around the most basic WPF text control. Notepad is literally the kind of app used as a tutorial for intro to coding that you can crank out in half a day.

        There is no risk of it becoming proprietary or locked behind paywalls.

        This is a junk, click bait, article designed to drive up hysteria cause it gets engagement. Supporting trash misinformation outlets like this is far more corrosive then adding new paid features to an existing application.

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      The popup is shittier, also takes a lot longer to open than it used to, but yeah, the article is definitely misleading clickbait.

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      Even if you’re right, why the fuck add in unnecessary features to a simple word program?

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        It’s not even a simple “word” program - that’s what write/WordPad was. Notepad is supposed to be just a bare bones text editor, like for altering an .ini file or writing a website in 1997.

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        the same reason why every program gets an ai feature: data farming, and reason to ask money for it

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              I’m not exactly sure what you mean.

              Notepad is a basic product users expect to use for the most minor edits. It has established expectations for over 2 decades, changing how or what it does won’t benefit more people if not frustrate them.

              From a product design point of view it has been made harder to access, by adding a whole login procedure justified by feature additions that no one asked for. This drastically reduces the privacy too.

              Depends whether it qualifies as enshittification, but they definitely didn’t do any favors.

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        Don’t use them if you don’t want them. A paywall even helps you stick to that.

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        VCs put a lot of money into AI, and they won’t hesitate to kill you to make sure they get their money back.

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        If you don’t have a computer that can run a local AI model and want to use any of their text editing features?

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            Who cares? I use VSCodium. It’s like VIm but doesn’t limit itself to interfaces you can express via the command line.

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          Why would anyone want those features in fucking notepad of all places?

          They’re absolutely useless when editing .txt, .ini, .bat, or .cmd files, which is what notepad is for.

          Put them into Word, if you want that crap!

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    Can’t wait for the task manager to get forced AI support that terminates processes automatically, so that they can paywall it, too…

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    who asked for this, I get the article sucks. but like… it’s just supposed to be a simple text editor and I think I’m right to worry about what will happen to the features that don’t make the money. the people saying… just don’t pay for it if you don’t wanna use it… didn’t change the fact that this is just additional bloat added to something that doesn’t even need it…

    they literally already have vscode, which is fantastic… why not just push that a little harder and add features like these over there and not into flipping notepad xD

    the tabbing functionality is a godsend and requested. this just feels weird imo

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    At this point anyone that voluntary uses windows is just braindead. I love Linux but if you don’t wanna use that then even Mac is better than that… For now

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        They meant better than what MS is doing. Basically Linux would be choice one, but failing that get a Mac. Until they go the same direction.

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            If you buy a mac, you just prepaid the subscription fee in the hardware price. Then they hook you into an environment where you have to pay it for every new device.

            I’d argue buying a PC you have to opt in to subscriptions, buying a Mac you can’t opt out.