Yesterday it kinda hit me that the feed left a lot more “reddit-y” suddenly. More american politics for one.
There is a also aspecific thing that alerted me: Sudden appearance of this pattern plagueing reddit where a post about some bad muslim person escalates into edgy atheism which is also kinda racist and lowkey fascist in a very specific way.
I don’t have a lot of empiric evidence, just the vibe seems to have shifted.
About the fascism thing: That’s how this place always was. It’s particularly obvious on European instances (at least from the perspective of this 2023 Reddit refugee).
I came from reddit 2 or 3 years ago now and i think most others are the same. Idk about all of a sudden. Its had the same undertones for a while now if you ask me and i think it grows along with the more people that join. As for politics I got tired of that the year before the last election. I invested some time into filters with certain words. Some stuff still slips by, but i am fine with seeing a few things.
Personally I can’t wait for more of that, the one thing this place lacks is the smaller unique communities that bring a lot of great obscure information to the table.
I came back here after a long time and i had the same feeling. I think has more to do with the level of the discussion at large nowadays, more than the platform itself.
oh, sorry you mean insulting, harassing, and threatening other users when the counterpoint your comments isn’t a ‘high level’ of discussion?
I have come to expect politics with debates against propensities as they come up on these (or any) social platforms. Thats just how forums have always been since it was referred to as bulletin boards back in the 90s. Reddit didnt invent that. Thats just human behaviour where people bat these things around and see what they can get away with. and trolls exist everywhere.
The thing that would make a platform reddit-y flavoured would be if it sold out to a large corporation, replaced mods with bots and celebrate a bunch of wife beating/federation/minority hunting subs and banned you for not liking it. That flavour is so very specific to reddit it’s considered a lesson in dark social experiments.
Block posters, communities, and keywords. And if you want to combat the perceived Reddit content, be the change and post what you think would counter it.
The “car guys” thread where people are talking about “nice exhaust” and “connection to the vehicle” definitely gives off reddit vibes. Even Facebook vibes tbh.
There are probably fewer than 10% of leftists in the West overall, even fewer in America, and for anyone outside of the West being a “leftist” just means having a modicum of humanity and caring about justice. Any Anglo site will inevitably be filled with average Anglos, and the average Anglo man is, well, you know. Just be happy they’re not a majority here, not yet at least. 🤷♂️
The redditification I see is where people spam 100s of the lowest quality posts across the entire site to push an agenda. Also the comments are all same because no one actually engages with the article and just post a reactionary comment to the headline. I dont know if its because the articles are so low quality there is nothing to engage with, no one cares enough to read the article or everyone is so ideologically aligned the response is the same.
Also the comments are all same because no one actually engages with the article and just post a reactionary comment to the headline.
I think this has even gotten worse over the last year. It’s amazing how often I see people arguing with each other over what they interpreted through the headline. Neither realizing that not only does the article completely explain whatever they’re arguing about, but they miss key details about the topic because they wouldn’t make the effort to read.
I dont know if its because the articles are so low quality there is nothing to engage with, no one cares enough to read the article or everyone is so ideologically aligned the response is the same.
Lots of garbage blog spam here. Often not factual. And then yeah, everyone circle jerks under it as if anything productive is happening.
I wish we had better sources, more people willing to read and not immediately become adversarial with replies. Same problems we had with Reddit.
yeah you can block these people at least, but holy crap do they flood the zone.
and if you do engage with them or criticize them, you’re ‘the enemy’. and no they aren’t rage-baiting, they are ‘showing people the truth of the evils of the bad people in the world’. and if you aren’t miserable, angry, and dumb like they are, you are the problem.
I only noticed there being even more political posts than usual, but their topic has not really changed, there’s just more of it.
And my axe!
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I haven’t noticed but I tend to stay in my subs.
About your facist comment.
Are you saying 1. Claiming a Muslim person can be bad is facist. Or 2. Are you saying being an Atheist is facist?
Neither. It’s the way that is used in some subreddits to propagate fascistic ideas in a veil of common sense and atheism. I am seeing a pattern of escalation beyonf what was resonable from.the original post
Thanks for the clarification…
Not recently or suddenly, no, but I also go out of my way to shovel that shit away from the “front page” in much the same way you’d feel about shovelling shitty slushy snow at the ass end of winter. It is inherently a Reddit knockoff populated mostly with people who either are politically opposed “enough” to Reddit to actually do something about it, people who got banned, or both. A large proportion of the activity here is bot posts, from Reddit. It follows that shit’s going to be… reddit-y.
To address the political spam firehose, look into making adblocker filters based around the obvious keywords, I’ve been planning to do that for a while since Lemmy, rather conspicuously, only lets you block things in ways that suck. Worse than discord, over here.
You can take the user out of reddit etc
There’s a bunch of new accounts posting chatbot slop, a lot specifically on this comm. Luckily when you point them out the mods do see to it.
As for the comms themselves that are made for slop like “c/woahthatsheckingcrazydude”, yeah you’ll have to get used to filtering those
People are people. My interactions on here have been largely the same as on Reddit, and on Reddit largely the same as on forums before that. Lemmy was and still is niche, so only a specific subset of people would’ve interacted here. That changes as more and more people arrive here.
People are people.
A lower percentage of them are people on Reddit and unfortunately that percentage is dropping here also. (We have bots posting weird questions to the question communities for example)
Reddit is a decent measure of people on the Internet in general. At least, Western people. Asia has its own forums.
Reddit has abdorbed some of the most technical and the most stupid people there are. The most kind abd the most fascist. It’s a statistical inevitability for a jack-of-all-trades platform.
Yup, but you can always decamp to other instances and other places. Once you’ve made the transition from Reddit to Lemmy, there’s much less friction transiting to your next watering hole.
I agree that people seem to be the same everywhere; the problem with reddit is that there get to be SO many people there that
a) moderation suffers b) you need upvotes in order to be VISIBLE–this has some nasty knock-on effects.
As Agent K says, “a person is smart; people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.”
All the smarmy boasting about the superiority of the lemmy style and its users is, as far as I can tell, mostly masturbation. It is better than reddit solely because it is less populated, because I can write a comment on a day old post and still get replies for a week, because I have to be careful not to be to total and complete of a flaming asshole because it wouldn’t take many people putting me on their blocklist to make me invisible, etc…
