GOP leaders scheduled the vote after Democratic primary voters embraced a number of democratic socialist candidates.

  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    The way this should be phrased is “Many Democrats join Republicans in condemning Social Security and Medicaid. Vowing to end social programs that help Americans.”

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      Be glad it’s theater & not something with more teeth because we know the right controls far too many things today to keep unreasonable laws from actually being enforced.

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    23 days ago

    “in all its forms”

    So, the military is condemned by the house, then? The US military is one of the biggest socialist organisations on the planet. It’s almost like these fucknuts don’t think before they speak.

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      Who controls the means of production for the military, is it the soldiers or the joint chiefs?

      Why do Americans conflate socialism with social programs?

      There is 0% of socialism in any military.

      Socialism is the democratization of the workplace, that is all.

      Single payer healthcare is not socialism

      Building roads and infrastructure is not socialism.

      Snap and ebt are not socialism.

      The post office is not socialism.

      Getting free stuff is not socialism.

      Socialism is when workers control all means of production and decide what to do with what is produced.

      There would be no capitalists in socialism because they would be illegal.

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      This is my biggest argument for socialized healthcare. The military can do it for all the families and it’s pretty fucking good(servicemember healthcare is garbage). Most people walk away from a childbirth only spending a few hundred and only because the hospital cafeteria is criminal pricing.

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    The DSA’s mistake was using the S word in its title. What they represent is not “socialism,” and that word makes it too easy for other politicians to promote shit like this ridiculous resolution. Should have called themselves the Humanist party, or the Working Class party, or something that more closely reflects what they represent.

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      Nah. It was the correct word choice. They can condemn till they’re blue in the face. Every time they fear monger about socialism while talking about democratic socialists, they’re selling both concepts to Americans.

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      While true that the word is scary, the title is what they are. It’s just most people will think Democratic (associated with the democrats) Socialists rather than “Democratic Socialists”, all one term, that is not relating them to the major party that is most close but instead describing, “we would like light socialist policies that people vote for still”.

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    Truly, that is the issue most salient in the US right now.

    Not right wing authoritarianism, decay of the checks and balances, large scale vote manipulation, and the economic squeezing of the population

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    “We’re capitalists. We believe in a capitalist system and rules and laws,” the California lawmaker said Tuesday morning Who’s we? People seriously call themselves capitalists when it’s not immediately followed by a justification for slavery with extra steps, crimes against humanity, or planet-destroying surveillance technology?

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    The Democrats who supported the resolution included Reps. Kathy Castor of Florida, Henry Cuellar of Texas, Don Davis of North Carolina, Jared Golden of Maine, Vicente Gonzalez of Texas, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington, Darren Soto of Florida and Gabe Vasquez of New Mexico. Those who voted present were Reps. Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania and Maggie Goodlander of New Hampshire.

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      Marie Gluesenkamp-Perez’s name comes up on these “defections” with regularity. She is essentially a moderate Republican, but that’s not a thing anymore, so she’s a Democrat. Her district is historically rather red, so we are unfortunately unlikely to get anyone better there anytime soon.

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        Yep. Within the city limits of Vancouver WA it’s becoming more reliably blue, but as soon as you hit unincorporated Clark county…well there’s a confederate monument. And Clark County is probably less red than the other counties also in the district. I do have my frustrations with Gluesenkamp-Perez, but we were depressing close to having the clown-show that is Joe Kent as our representative.

        I think things are slowly changing, but unfortunately there’s still so many people here who’s whole schtick when it comes to politics are “HURRR DURRRR WE AREN’T PORTLAND LIBTARDS”.

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        I know some people in Vancouver, WA that hate having her as their rep, but unfortunately her district is large and otherwise pretty rural, so they’ll continue to suffer having her to “represent” them

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      Yes, that plus it gives spineless Dems in battleground districts a chance to go “see? I condemned them! I’m one of the ‘good’ ones! Please don’t vote me out and kick me off the corporate gravy train!”

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    Social - security. It’s in the fucking name! Some of us will need it to survive in old age after a fucking Bank figures out how to steal our house so they can sell it to a young couple about to have a baby…to continue the cycle of labor profit extraction. Zero for is. All for them.

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    But two moderate Democrats — Golden [Maine] and Gluesenkamp Perez [Washington] — defected and helped the procedural vote succeed, putting some of their Democratic colleagues in a politically tricky situation.

    House Democratic leadership condemned Golden and Gluesenkamp Perez’s decision later Tuesday.

    “The decision by two of our colleagues to blindside the entire House Democratic Caucus and join with the Republican majority to pass a procedural rule on the brink of failing represents a significant breach of trust. It is an action that necessitates a serious response, and we have asked the Committee on Caucus Rules to take this up in short order,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said in a joint statement with House Minority Whip Katherine Clark and Democratic Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar.

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    The Democrats who supported the resolution included:

    Reps. Kathy Castor of Florida,
    Henry Cuellar of Texas,
    Don Davis of North Carolina,
    Jared Golden of Maine,
    Vicente Gonzalez of Texas,
    Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington,
    Darren Soto of Florida and
    Gabe Vasquez of New Mexico.

    Those who voted present were

    Reps. Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania and
    Maggie Goodlander of New Hampshire.

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    This is what happens when people “vote blue no matter who.” I can only assume that the people who disagree with this post are those inclined to vote for Democrats like this, regardless.

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      This is what happens when people don’t vote in primaries, or the primaries have only shitty candidates.

      If those people then didn’t vote blue then they’d have elected Republicans that would have voted for this anyway. And worse things.