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Comic in 4 Panels
Panel 1: A young bright-eyed man stands in front of a house.
Grandpa: I’m going to buy a house!
Panel 2: The young man is now old and bespectacled. He’s telling this story to his grandson, who is listening politely.
Grandpa: …and that was how I bought my house when I was 23!
Panel 3: Grandpa’s story turns into a yelling rant
Grandpa: I WORKED AT THE DRIVE-IN ALL SUMMER FOR THAT HOUSE!! NOBODY WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE!
Panel 4: Grandpa watches as his grandson unplugs a cord from the wall with a * POP *
Grandpa: …why are you unplugging my lamp?
Grandson: I’m just practicing
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Zach M. Stafford
Serious question: Has anyone here had firsthand direct experience of a “boomer” saying sh*t like this? And I mean recently, not 20-30 years ago when the inequity was seemingly more obscure in popular culture.
I was at a party one time. Right before covid, so not super recently, but more recent than 20-30 years ago. Older guy was complaining about young people complaining about housing costs. “Just buy a cheap house in %suburb! You could get one for $200,000,” he said.
I was like “uhhh I’ll call that bluff. I’m in the market right now. I’ve been preapproved for $300,000 and I can’t find a house around here. If you can find me a house in %suburb for $200,000, I’ll pay you a $10,000 finders fee.”
This dude spent the next two hours of the party not talking to anyone, locked in on his phone, looking at real estate listings. Then he finally apologized to me and was like “wow, I really didn’t know it was so bad.”
Please don’t buy any propaganda from the capital class that attempts to divide the working classes. We have more in common with our grandparents than with the billionaires oppressing us.
At the same time my grandfather told us we could just buy a used car for $100. He had made his money and did not keep up on how expensive these things are now. So while I agree, I do wish they would maybe accept things are more expensive now.
The problem is definitely both. While the old coots that talk like the guy in the comic might not have directly ripped off everyone (except many have on more personal levels), their ignorance and entrenched positions make it far more difficult to fight the billionaires when there is a massive group of people who are totally unwilling to even admit there is a problem to address.
I think that’s fair. My hope is that we can encourage class traitors to come over to our side, rather than be angry at them.
This would be ideal but in my personal experience with my parents and their peers, who are all in their early 70s, is even if you can convince them to agree on the class war they almost universally will state they’ll be dead soon with the implication being it’s not their problem
I once told a boomer that we were all just waiting for them to die off so we could actually make some positive changes in the world, and they were shocked. I’m like “You said you were going to continue voting like this no matter who the candidates are until you die. I’m just waiting for the terms to be fulfilled.”
Every four years our president gets four years older, surely that trend can’t go on forever?
It’s the billionaire’s that are actively shaping the boomer’s opinions to create the division that distracts from what the billionaires are doing. Yes, they are using existing notions and amplifying them - just like they’re amplifying younger adults natural distain for the previous generation.
That old guy in the comic is exactly like my boomer parents.
I understand the sentiment, but the main boomer in my life still thinks I’m lazy despite working 12-14 hours a day 7 days a week.
I found out the other day they also badmouth me and my partner for not having kids. They also think we don’t own a house yet solely because we’re irresponsible.
They also voted for Trump three times and currently believe the economy is thriving better under him than it would have otherwise. They have insane levels of American exceptionalism.
I have nothing in common with them and I will also go practice unplugging a lamp.
This unfortunately, honestly American exceptionalism needs to die and be dead and buried 6 feet under
We’re not fighting them because they’re rich, we’re fighting the boomer class because they keep giving the billionaires power because they think we’re lazy and billionaires worked hard for their money
The boomer in the comic has already fallen for the propaganda though. Boomers like the one in the comic are helping the billionaire class oppress us. Are we not allowed to point that out?
ah, practicing
spoiler
unplugging life support
that took me a minute
I’m 60. I grew up in California and when I had to start earning my way at 18, I soon realized I’d never be able to afford a house there. So, I moved to NM. I was barely able to afford to buy a house here, and I’m almost done paying it off.
My son works, but I don’t think he’ll be able to afford to buy a house any time soon. My hope is I’m able to hang on to the house till I die and give it to him. So, at least he’ll have that.
I’ve never told my son what I think he should do. But, if he asked… I’d have no idea what to tell him. Shit is fucked up, now, and I didn’t see it coming.
Ah boomers they stole from their parents , they stole from their kids. The most selfish generation in history.
They are also called the “me” generation back in the '70s.
The thing that angers me the most is that I said to my mom “I’m never going to have a retirement…”
I’m 42, no house, no retirement savings, no 401k, and no way to save for those things. Some weeks I don’t have enough money to buy food.
My moms response was “Oh you’ll be fine! I struggled when I was in my 20s, with both of your sisters, and I turned out ok!”
Yes, it’s true that for about 5 years my mom had it as hard, maybe harder than I do. The difference is, then she met my dad, moved in with him, her money problems disappeared. She then got a better job, with retirement options, and a 401k, and benefits.
Then she bought her own house in the 90s. The seller wasn’t sure if he wanted to sell to her as a single woman. So she said “you can either sell to me, or sell to someone else. The price is the same either way. You may as well just sell now, rather than waiting for the next buyer.”
THATS the speech that got her the house.
Today, you’d get laughed at.
My biggest problem with boomers isn’t their selfish nature, or the fact that they’ve had an easy life. My biggest problem is that they refuse to admit that times have changed. I CAN’T live life the way boomers did. I’d LOVE to wear a suit, walk into a business, demand to see the manager before I even fill out an application and talk myself into a job. I’d LOVE to do that…but thats not how it works anymore! Now you fill an application out online, submit it to an AI crawler that steals your data, be in competition with 500 other applicants, and most of the time never hear back.
I asked my brother in law 10 years ago if he could get me a job at his fortune 500 company. He works there, he’s not the owner, but I was asking him to put in a good word, get my application even looked at.
He’s my age, and this was said right in front of my mom. He said “I couldn’t do that. That would be nepotism”. I said “Yeah. I’m fine with nepotism if it means I canpay my bills.”
And my mom asked if I wanted her to storm the corporate offices of Progressive Insurance, and hunt down the CEO for an interview.
So I just said yes. Not because I think it would work, but because I knew she’d fail spectacularly. Maybe even get arrested on a light charge. Then maybe she’d realize how times change.
But she just said “I can’t always fight your battles for you. This is something YOU need to do.”
God dammit.
During the worst of one of the recessions I was trying to find a job right out of college, and my dad (who regularly told me to use old-school job hunting tactics) asked me if I wanted him to apply for me and show me how it’s done. I said yes.
A week later he had applied to five jobs. Taps out with a “Man, it’s rough out there!” That perspective really helped us communicate in the future.
He did, at one point, help me get a nepotism hire. While I was there they got bought out, and they made him personally fire 80% of the company, including me and my mom, before firing him as well. Live by the sword die by the sword I guess.
2008? I was lucky during that time period. I had a job, I saw the recession. I still applied to other jobs, but I put up with my shitty job I had, because it was all I had. I’m sure many lives were ruined for those that didn’t have jobs at that time.
Your dad walks the walk. Respect.
I genuinely believe a lot of these people are straight up delusional and so insanely stubborn they’ll never see it.
When I went to college it was only 500$ a semester.
I worked 9 hours a week to pay for it.
I’ve had people your age literally yell at me that this wasn’t the case. XD
I’ve also spent an entire career in academia watching this sort of thing happen.
Well, it also depends on the school you go to. There were more expensive ones, I chose the cheaper closer one, so no room and board had to be paid.
Oh, look at mr brag over here, with his lack of a life long crippling student debt, and his “ability to work 9 whole hours in a single week”.
I’m not mad at you. I’m mad at the system.
Also, lived at home and rode the greyhound bus to school every day.
So your parents didn’t kick you out at 18 while saying something about birds?
The numbers are so far off of reasonable now that I misread it as “$500 a week” and thought “damn, they made $56/hr?”
I bought my house with my military sign in bonus. I got 20k that i put into the s&p. After college it was 40k. My house was 120k.
Then the federal reserve made the choice to raise housing prices like crazy by lowing interest rates to 0.25% (1.9% apr for houses) and my house blew up to 500k.
Low interest rates have killed the market for anyone to ever buy a house now. They really need to raise rates to 10% before housing becomes affordable again
The problem is all that will do is freeze the housing market. If the prices have dropped through the floor, people just don’t sell (unless they are forced to)
If the prices have dropped through the floor, people just don’t sell (unless they are forced to)
The good news is that people often are forced to sell, either because they’re moving to a new city, or because they died and now their kids need to unload the house.
It would lower housing costs because investment firms would bail on the housing as an investment strategy because they could make higher returns in other markets like bonds and stocks. With low interest rates housing is an incredible investment returns.
Dont get the last panel
“Pull the plug” is a saying for when you remove someone from life support in the hospital. In dramas, it’s often a middle-aged person doing it to their sick/dying parent.
Ooooohhhhh
My grandma repeatedly told us that their house was expensive because the interest rate was 10 3/4%. We have tax benefits based on the interest rate you pay. Also, their monthly payments were, adjusted by inflation, still way lower than what I pay for a worse house.
Hell, the house my dad got when he was a train driver with a wife that didn’t work and with 2 kids is a house I can’t buy as a senior software developer with 3 cats.
good thing we got that second taxable income to supplement the rise in capital costs.
Ok , so?
All true. But on the bright side, cats.
Hell, the house my dad got when he was a train driver with a wife that didn’t work and with 2 kids is a house I can’t buy as a senior software developer with 3 cats.
My dad bought a house when he was mid 30s and the solo bread winner for the house a couple of years after I was born. I loved that neighbourhood. It wasn’t anything too special. The houses there are 50s-90s builds, 2-3 bedrooms, maybe 2 bathrooms (our second bathroom in that house was almost an outhouse in the basement – concrete floor, exposed pipes, door that looked like it belonged on a shed, etc. My dad and a friend built a back deck which was really nice. There is a park nearby. There’s access to a nice bike path. It’s not on a through-route at all, so the only cars entering the neighbourhood are residents or guests. It’s not near shopping, not near public transit, not really near any schools. It was just a quiet, modest, neighbourhood.
I’m significantly older, don’t have any kids to support, have been saving for ages, had better, and higher paying jobs (inflation adjusted) than him. I can’t really afford any house in that neighbourhood. The only people buying there now are multi-millionaires, but they’re moving in next to families who have been there for 30ish years and know enough not to give up a good thing.
It just seems to me that a rule of thumb with housing is that in general you should be able to afford to buy in the neighbourhood where you grew up. I know sometimes that isn’t possible. Cities get denser, areas become highly sought after, etc. But, if the neighbourhood really is basically the same, and you earn what your parents did (or better), you should be able to stay nearby.








