• Womble@piefed.world
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    1 month ago

    Real answer? Because train lines cut through a lot of land and every landowner along the route can hold up progress with legal objections. Flock cameras are just attached to poles and data centres are compact.

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      1 month ago

      That’s definitely a contributing factor. I remember the train line near my city… it took longer to buy up all the land than to actually build it. It might seem the same all building a road, but there are significantly more constraints, and a road benefits everyone around it, while trains only benefit Oriole at the train station.

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        1 month ago

        Roads make life worse for everyone around them. I wish there were more barriers to building roads! You should have to get consent of everyone living within 200m to pollute the air they breathe. And I don’t mean the landlord, I mean the tenants.

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            1 month ago

            No they don’t. I don’t have a car. You think I’m gonna walk down the new freeway they build next to My home? Maybe I’ll rollerblade down it.

            Traditional roads provide transportation to everyone, but those don’t need a big government project to build. All you need is a pair of shoes, and you’ll wear a road into the dirt over time.

            Roads built for cars? They isolate us. They put a deadly barrier between you and your neighbours. Keep your kids inside and give them a phone, it’s dangerous out on the street! Pay attention when you’re outside and don’t wear headphones or look at your phone. And if you have impaired vision or movement? Then fuck you, get run over. Even if you’re healthy, you have to wait at a traffic light just to cross the street in some places. Roads slow down movement for people.

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              1 month ago

              How do you think your food and other needs gets to you, what do buses operate on? How does your mail get delivered.

              You use roads.

              • SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip
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                Buses are shit. They’re a way to shoehorn transit into a network built for cars, and they can never be faster than the cars because they’re in the same traffic. (BRT is a special thing to solve this problem.) It would be a net gain if buses went away along with the cars.

                My mail gets delivered by a guy walking.

                Roads and streets built for food delivery vehicles would need to be far smaller, and less extensive. And all of the land for parking lots and interchanges and turn lanes and drive-thrus and gas stations…

                This “you use roads” argument falls flat when the car industry and drivers arrogated all of the space and forced it upon us.

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                  My mail gets delivered by a guy walking

                  How many packages do you think the guy can carry at once? Every block as a box that the guy walks to and collects to deliver before moving onto the next. Do you think that they’ve walked all the way from the postal office to your house with your mail…? You can’t seriously think that do you?

                  How do you think those get supplied? Your coffee shop? How did they get the utilities in to provide everything to the block?

                  You just don’t understand distribution and concept of scale. The argument only falls flat if you ignore major points along the way, like how the mail gets to your guy that walks. Or how those shops get supplies for the food delivery trucks.

                  And instead of that, why not multi use high rises? The bottom floor has a coffee shop, grocery store, and other amenities, how would you supply those without a road…?

                  You gotta look past your own nose and see the entire picture dude.